It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
On 7/2/2013 7:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Congratulations to all involved!
Quick question(s) though... I guess I'm confused how these spins are supposed to work... the included package list at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages
doesn't mention the "mup" music typesetting package which is now included in Fedora; I had added it to the list of packages that should be included on the wiki page at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_creation_spin_development
Also, the main page at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Jam_Audio_Spin
has a dead download link... it goes to:
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/jam
but should probably go to:
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/jam-kde/
-Greg
On 2 July 2013 16:54, Greg Bailey gbailey@lxpro.com wrote:
On 7/2/2013 7:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Nice.
Congratulations to all involved!
Quick question(s) though... I guess I'm confused how these spins are supposed to work... the included package list at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages
doesn't mention the "mup" music typesetting package which is now included in Fedora; I had added it to the list of packages that should be included on the wiki page at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_creation_spin_development
There are two sections, primary (must be on the spin) and secondary (aim to have packaged). You moved it on to primary, 18th April, but that was after the F19 feature freeze (12th March) and the planned Alpha release (16th April). I don't know what implications the feature freeze has for packages included in spins, but I doubt we could include more packages after alpha that weren't previously planned. Since picking up new packages from the wiki is manual (so far as I know), it'd be worth emailing here too if you thought it needed to be included, especially close to the feature freeze. Also the spins actually have to get submitted in time for those milestones, so while there aren't published deadlines for Jam packages Brendan does need time to get things together. In summary I think, "narrowly missed out."
Also, the main page at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Jam_Audio_Spin
has a dead download link... it goes to:
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/jam
but should probably go to:
Good spot, looks like Brendan's fixed it.
On 07/02/2013 06:44 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
On 2 July 2013 16:54, Greg Bailey gbailey@lxpro.com wrote:
On 7/2/2013 7:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Nice.
Congratulations to all involved!
Quick question(s) though... I guess I'm confused how these spins are supposed to work... the included package list at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages
doesn't mention the "mup" music typesetting package which is now included in Fedora; I had added it to the list of packages that should be included on the wiki page at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_creation_spin_development
There are two sections, primary (must be on the spin) and secondary (aim to have packaged). You moved it on to primary, 18th April, but that was after the F19 feature freeze (12th March) and the planned Alpha release (16th April). I don't know what implications the feature freeze has for packages included in spins, but I doubt we could include more packages after alpha that weren't previously planned. Since picking up new packages from the wiki is manual (so far as I know), it'd be worth emailing here too if you thought it needed to be included, especially close to the feature freeze. Also the spins actually have to get submitted in time for those milestones, so while there aren't published deadlines for Jam packages Brendan does need time to get things together. In summary I think, "narrowly missed out."
Yeah sorry, we probably could have added extra packages but it wasn't on my radar.
Perhaps we could add another section after the package list which outlines some packages which missed the cut. I have a few late ones also that didn't make it:
radium-compressor lv2-triceratops lv2-newtonator
I will mup and these to the master kickstart sometime soon.
Also, I have fleshed out the contribute section.Feel free to edit and amend.
On 07/02/2013 07:08 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 07/02/2013 06:44 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
On 2 July 2013 16:54, Greg Bailey gbailey@lxpro.com wrote:
On 7/2/2013 7:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Nice.
Congratulations to all involved!
Quick question(s) though... I guess I'm confused how these spins are supposed to work... the included package list at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages
doesn't mention the "mup" music typesetting package which is now included in Fedora; I had added it to the list of packages that should be included on the wiki page at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_creation_spin_development
There are two sections, primary (must be on the spin) and secondary (aim to have packaged). You moved it on to primary, 18th April, but that was after the F19 feature freeze (12th March) and the planned Alpha release (16th April). I don't know what implications the feature freeze has for packages included in spins, but I doubt we could include more packages after alpha that weren't previously planned. Since picking up new packages from the wiki is manual (so far as I know), it'd be worth emailing here too if you thought it needed to be included, especially close to the feature freeze. Also the spins actually have to get submitted in time for those milestones, so while there aren't published deadlines for Jam packages Brendan does need time to get things together. In summary I think, "narrowly missed out."
Yeah sorry, we probably could have added extra packages but it wasn't on my radar.
Perhaps we could add another section after the package list which outlines some packages which missed the cut. I have a few late ones also that didn't make it:
radium-compressor lv2-triceratops lv2-newtonator
I have done this.
I will mup and these to the master kickstart sometime soon.
Also, I have fleshed out the contribute section.Feel free to edit and amend.
This page is now linked to the main spins page. A few typos and wrong links that have been corrected should make it out into the wild soon.
If anyone has anything else to add please do - I guess this page should serve as the spin entry point to the wiki so we should probably aim it at the broadest possible audience. Trying to keep it lean and simple but is there anything else we should add? Musicians guide, other wiki links?
On 07/03/2013 03:38 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 07/02/2013 07:08 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 07/02/2013 06:44 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
On 2 July 2013 16:54, Greg Bailey gbailey@lxpro.com wrote:
On 7/2/2013 7:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Nice.
Congratulations to all involved!
Quick question(s) though... I guess I'm confused how these spins are supposed to work... the included package list at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages
doesn't mention the "mup" music typesetting package which is now included in Fedora; I had added it to the list of packages that should be included on the wiki page at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_creation_spin_development
There are two sections, primary (must be on the spin) and secondary (aim to have packaged). You moved it on to primary, 18th April, but that was after the F19 feature freeze (12th March) and the planned Alpha release (16th April). I don't know what implications the feature freeze has for packages included in spins, but I doubt we could include more packages after alpha that weren't previously planned. Since picking up new packages from the wiki is manual (so far as I know), it'd be worth emailing here too if you thought it needed to be included, especially close to the feature freeze. Also the spins actually have to get submitted in time for those milestones, so while there aren't published deadlines for Jam packages Brendan does need time to get things together. In summary I think, "narrowly missed out."
Yeah sorry, we probably could have added extra packages but it wasn't on my radar.
Perhaps we could add another section after the package list which outlines some packages which missed the cut. I have a few late ones also that didn't make it:
radium-compressor lv2-triceratops lv2-newtonator
I have done this.
I will mup and these to the master kickstart sometime soon.
Also, I have fleshed out the contribute section.Feel free to edit and amend.
This page is now linked to the main spins page. A few typos and wrong links that have been corrected should make it out into the wild soon.
If anyone has anything else to add please do - I guess this page should serve as the spin entry point to the wiki so we should probably aim it at the broadest possible audience. Trying to keep it lean and simple but is there anything else we should add? Musicians guide, other wiki links?
So I checked https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages again, and I still don't see mup listed as an included package. I guess I can download the spin to see if it's there, but I'm confused by these earlier emails as to whether it was included or not. Is there something I need to do?
thanks! Greg
(once again I forget to reply on list) On 18 September 2013 00:20, Greg Bailey gbailey@lxpro.com wrote:
On 07/02/2013 07:08 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
I will mup and these to the master kickstart sometime soon.
So I checked https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages again, and I still don't see mup listed as an included package. I guess I can download the spin to see if it's there, but I'm confused by these earlier emails as to whether it was included or not. Is there something I need to do?
Pitfalls of a manually maintained list: $ rpm -q mup mup-6.1-7.fc20.x86_64
On 09/18/2013 01:20 AM, Greg Bailey wrote: <snip>
So I checked https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages again, and I still don't see mup listed as an included package. I guess I can download the spin to see if it's there, but I'm confused by these earlier emails as to whether it was included or not. Is there something I need to do?
thanks! Greg
Sorry it is there, the wiki is just out of date. Thanks for packaging! Feel free to edit the wiki now though ;)
commit 97426b8c9324e08758f388e611b1d6f5bffa9ab1 Author: Brendan Jones brendan.jones.it@gmail.com Date: Sun Aug 18 20:12:46 2013 +0200
Jam: add new plugins and mup notation editor.
On 09/18/2013 10:08 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 09/18/2013 01:20 AM, Greg Bailey wrote:
<snip> > > So I checked https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages > again, and I still don't see mup listed as an included package. I guess > I can download the spin to see if it's there, but I'm confused by these > earlier emails as to whether it was included or not. Is there something > I need to do? > > thanks! > Greg
Wiki also edited. Thanks Greg!
On 09/18/2013 03:49 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 09/18/2013 10:08 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 09/18/2013 01:20 AM, Greg Bailey wrote:
<snip> > > So I checked https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages > again, and I still don't see mup listed as an included package. I guess > I can download the spin to see if it's there, but I'm confused by these > earlier emails as to whether it was included or not. Is there something > I need to do? > > thanks! > Greg
Wiki also edited. Thanks Greg!
Thanks Greg!
On 07/02/2013 07:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Wow! Congratulations!! -- Fernando
PS: the Planet CCRMA packages for Fedora 19, at least most of them, are also online... it is good that every new release I have less and less software to package :-)
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On 07/03/2013 01:31 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On 07/02/2013 07:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Wow! Congratulations!! -- Fernando
PS: the Planet CCRMA packages for Fedora 19, at least most of them, are also online... it is good that every new release I have less and less software to package :-)
One of these days, I'll manage to both: - - move the supercollider packages to Fedora, and - - publish an up-to-date Musicians' Guide on release day
Good work to everybody this time around, both in the Audio SIG and everywhere else. I can only agree with what most people are saying: Fedora 19 is a very solid release!
Christopher
On 07/04/2013 06:54 AM, Christopher R. Antila wrote:
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On 07/03/2013 01:31 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On 07/02/2013 07:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Wow! Congratulations!! -- Fernando
PS: the Planet CCRMA packages for Fedora 19, at least most of them, are also online... it is good that every new release I have less and less software to package :-)
One of these days, I'll manage to both:
- move the supercollider packages to Fedora, and
- publish an up-to-date Musicians' Guide on release day
What usually has to be done to get this published for each release? Can we still do it now? If there's a ticket or something that needs filing can you copy it to me so I can do it next time. Wiki currently points to 18: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Musicians_Guide/
If someone want to edit it, how do they go about it?
thanks Chris,
Brendan
On 07/04/2013 05:28 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
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What usually has to be done to get this published for each release? Can we still do it now? If there's a ticket or something that needs filing can you copy it to me so I can do it next time. Wiki currently points to 18: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Musicians_Guide/
If someone want to edit it, how do they go about it?
Members of the "docs-publishers" FAS group can publish anything whenever they want. Usually we only publish our own documents, in the language in which they were written (e.g., it would be strange for me to publish the "SELinux Guide" in Urdu, even though *technically* nothing will stop me). So we can still publish for Fedora 19.
However, I'm reluctant to publish when it's the exact same document as the previous release. It would be fine if none of the software has changed, but I haven't even had time to check whether there are relevant changes, never mind revising to include them.
So, as usual, if I were thinking ahead, I'd have asked for help well before the release. Instead, here we are!
The easiest way to contribute is to file bugs against the Guide. You might also join the Docs Project, like Ian (I think?) did. Speaking of which...
Christopher
P.S. Sorry for the huge delay in responding. Long story.
On 07/12/2013 09:37 PM, Christopher Antila wrote:
On 07/04/2013 05:28 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
...
What usually has to be done to get this published for each release? Can we still do it now? If there's a ticket or something that needs filing can you copy it to me so I can do it next time. Wiki currently points to 18: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Musicians_Guide/
If someone want to edit it, how do they go about it?
Members of the "docs-publishers" FAS group can publish anything whenever they want. Usually we only publish our own documents, in the language in which they were written (e.g., it would be strange for me to publish the "SELinux Guide" in Urdu, even though *technically* nothing will stop me). So we can still publish for Fedora 19.
Done!
However, I'm reluctant to publish when it's the exact same document as the previous release. It would be fine if none of the software has changed, but I haven't even had time to check whether there are relevant changes, never mind revising to include them.
Understandable...
So, as usual, if I were thinking ahead, I'd have asked for help well before the release. Instead, here we are!
The easiest way to contribute is to file bugs against the Guide. You might also join the Docs Project, like Ian (I think?) did. Speaking of which...
You are perfectlyright. Glad the docs group operates this way, we'll get there!
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Brendan Jones brendan.jones.it@gmail.com wrote:
It's been a long time coming but as of now Fedora has its own audio spin.
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who helped make this happen.
You can download there spin here:
Congratulations! Very big thanks to everyone involved!
Orcan
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