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F-12 and Skype -
by Bob Goodwin 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

. Is anyone able to offer some help with Skype. I installed their Linux RPM version and yum'd the dependencies. It works well between Skype users, at least the voice is fine and I can see the other persons video although that's not a feature I would use. But although it will connect to the "plain old telephone system, I subscribed to that feature," it doesn't provide a usable connection. All I have to test with is my cell phone and only hear weak and broken audio, a call to my brother's answering machine gets dropped before I can say more than a few words leading me to believe it's not hearing me? To add to the uncertainty my satellite ISP contributes a couple of seconds of latency, there is the delay between here and the satellite and from there to the earth station plus what ever other system delays occur and of course I don't know what effect that might have beyond the obvious human reaction to the delayed response. Any thoughts on the subject appreciated. Bob

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Clamav
by Michael Miles 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Subject: Re: Clamav From: Michael Miles <mmamiga6(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:55:59 -0700 To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org On 04/16/2010 01:39 PM, jdow wrote: > > From: "Patrick O'Callaghan"<pocallaghan(a)gmail.com> > > Sent: Thursday, 2010/April/15 12:50 > > > > > > > >> >> On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 12:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> I have removed all and I will wait for proper instruction as I really >>> >>> do not know enough about this OS >>> >>> >>> >> >> Given that you say so yourself, the logical question is "why do you need >> >> Clamav"? Clamav is usually installed by people running mail servers for >> >> users who access them from Windows. If all you're doing is reading mail >> >> in Linux, it's extremely unlikely that you even need it. In 35 years of >> >> using first Unix and then Linux, I have yet to see a single virus that >> >> wasn't a proof-of-concept demo. >> >> >> > > 1) I have seen at least one active exploit, I fortunately recognized > > myself, for Linux in my<mumble> years with computers. (longer than > > yours, sonny, although I took a 6 year hiatus in there. {^_-}) (Even > > my beloved Amiga (made some money off that system) had online exploits.) > > > > 2) Some of us live on mixed networks. Open Sores does NOT pay for my > > bread, water, and roof, let alone any recreation. So I have Windows > > machines around. ClamAV is handy to have in the Linux machine, which > > is the master server for the system. > > > > 3) If you read the kernel list a little more you'd discover enough chatter > > about obvious items of vulnerability you'd want to put a condom on your > > computer. > > > > 4) I will agree with you as far as to say Linux is not as vulnerable as > > Windows. That is mostly because it is still perceived as being a boutique > > OS with savvy users. When that changes I expect to see numbers of active > > exploits out on the Internet to increase sharply. I would prefer a casual > > date put on his condom BEFORE rather than AFTER he makes mostions to > > impregnate me, which at my age is hopeless. > > > > {^_^} Fortunately Joanne has not had to reinstall YET. > > > I started with the Vic 20 then went to the 64 I had a Amiga 3000 up to a 68060 and of course lightwave and the video toaster by newtek. Now that Amiga was a system which I adored I find Linux similar but I love the drag and drop of the amiga especially for devices. I run an Amd Phenom 2 945 now initialy with Win 7 x64 ultimate. Am totally fed up with Windows I like Fedora very much and am extremely impressed with security. I freaked out when Clamav found a trojan in my mozilla directory only to see it was the test virus that comes with clamav. I have a home network here with 2 other computers on it. Both Win 7 machines We do not share mail service and only share music and videos from this machine (fat 4 tera byte hd) Anyway I think I will let it run for a bit but I'm still not sure I want it on. Still have really no need unless viruses start to take hold with linux. At the very same time once the damage is done by a nasty virus it is too late. Some protection is needed, I would think I put in a backup Win 7 dvd and scanned it Clam av found 4 on the dvd. Bitdefender for unices found 15 Michael -- users mailing list users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

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Camera in FC12
by Marvin Kosmal 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

HI I am not able to see my camera in FC12. Need a clue where to start looking... I had a similar problem about a month ago but, can't find my notes. TIA Marvin

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Some question in include\linux\I2c.h
by mojian4linux 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Hi all. when i read the include\linux\I2c.h, i have a question between ------------------------------------------ /* include\linux\I2c.h */ ... /* Standard driver model interfaces */ int (*probe)(struct i2c_client *, const struct i2c_device_id *); int (*remove)(struct i2c_client *); /* driver model interfaces that don't relate to enumeration */ void (*shutdown)(struct i2c_client *); int (*suspend)(struct i2c_client *, pm_message_t mesg); int (*resume)(struct i2c_client *); ... ---------------------------------- Q: 1. /* driver model interfaces that don't relate to enumeration */------>what does this sentence mean？ 2. what the different between int (*resume)(struct i2c_client *) and int (*remove)(struct i2c_client *) ? --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Best regards, mojian E-mail:mojian4linux@163.com

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How do I script the Gnome handling of audio CDs?
by Steve Searle 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

By default when an audio CD is inserted (Fedora 12, Gnome), a window pops up promting the user what they want to do. This behavior can be changed so that the prompt does not happen by running System -> Preferences -> File Management (nautilus-file-management-properties) and going to the Media tab. Is there a way to change this preference from a (bash) script? I tried using the command: $ gconftool-2 -t string -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_autorun_x_content_ignore "[xcontent/software,x-content/audio-cdda]" but this does not work, and causes nautilus-file-management-properties to crash. Thanks Steve -- (o< www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora V_/_ No MS products were used in the creation of this message 13:37:12 up 27 days, 42 min, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00

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Re: diagnosing OOM issue
by Oliver Falk 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

You should not run a Linux system without swap. If a process tries to allocate memory and no more real memory is available and also no swap OOM will start killing. It's a workstation I guess? -of Dave Mitchell <davem(a)iabyn.com> schrieb: >I've recently upgraded my F11 system's RAM from 1Gb to 2Gb, and at the >same time removed the swap device from /etc/fstab. Since then I'm getting >the OOM killer killing off random processes after a few days' use, even >when memory usage is (apparently) low. > >Can anyone advise me what's causing this? > >Its a 32-bit system, and I have a suspicion its something to do with low >memory, but the tips I've found via Google seem to refer to the kernel >parameter /proc/sys/vm/lower_zone_protection, which no longer exists. >Further googling implies that this has been replaced with >/proc/sys/vm/lowmem_reserve_ratio, but I can't make head nor tail of its >documentation. > >Here is the state of my system after firefox and metacity were killed off, >and I'd restarted firefox: > ># free -l > total used free shared buffers cached >Mem: 2053480 1364452 689028 0 2048 965144 >Low: 875028 866216 8812 >High: 1178452 498236 680216 >-/+ buffers/cache: 397260 1656220 >Swap: 0 0 0 > ># cat /proc/meminfo >MemTotal: 2053480 kB >MemFree: 662628 kB >Buffers: 1816 kB >Cached: 968580 kB >SwapCached: 0 kB >Active: 704108 kB >Inactive: 586296 kB >Active(anon): 602384 kB >Inactive(anon): 503044 kB >Active(file): 101724 kB >Inactive(file): 83252 kB >Unevictable: 8 kB >Mlocked: 8 kB >HighTotal: 1178452 kB >HighFree: 653708 kB >LowTotal: 875028 kB >LowFree: 8920 kB >SwapTotal: 0 kB >SwapFree: 0 kB >Dirty: 140 kB >Writeback: 0 kB >AnonPages: 320048 kB >Mapped: 66756 kB >Slab: 55960 kB >SReclaimable: 17312 kB >SUnreclaim: 38648 kB >PageTables: 11492 kB >NFS_Unstable: 0 kB >Bounce: 0 kB >WritebackTmp: 0 kB >CommitLimit: 1026740 kB >Committed_AS: 1810392 kB >VmallocTotal: 122880 kB >VmallocUsed: 24236 kB >VmallocChunk: 83532 kB >HugePages_Total: 0 >HugePages_Free: 0 >HugePages_Rsvd: 0 >HugePages_Surp: 0 >Hugepagesize: 2048 kB >DirectMap4k: 12280 kB >DirectMap2M: 897024 kB > > >>From /var/log/messages: > > >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Xorg invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201d4, order=0, oomkilladj=0 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Xorg cpuset=/ mems_allowed=0 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Pid: 1844, comm: Xorg Not tainted 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i686.PAE #1 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Call Trace: >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048b7a5>] oom_kill_process+0x6e/0x1f2 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048bd54>] ? select_bad_process+0x87/0xce >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048be0e>] __out_of_memory+0x73/0x82 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048be80>] out_of_memory+0x63/0x88 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048e0a1>] __alloc_pages_internal+0x2e8/0x38a >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0488bd1>] __page_cache_alloc+0x16/0x18 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0489a43>] read_cache_page_async+0x34/0xfd >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0495eea>] ? shmem_readpage+0x0/0x36 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0489b1d>] read_cache_page+0x11/0x49 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f821a134>] i915_gem_object_get_pages+0x91/0xdc [i915] >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f821bc8b>] i915_gem_object_bind_to_gtt+0x162/0x1f6 [i915] >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f821cbb5>] i915_gem_mmap_gtt_ioctl+0x189/0x1cc [i915] >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f81bbbf8>] drm_ioctl+0x202/0x292 [drm] >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f821ca2c>] ? i915_gem_mmap_gtt_ioctl+0x0/0x1cc [i915] >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c05485bc>] ? inode_has_perm+0x60/0x6a >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c04bd01e>] vfs_ioctl+0x5c/0x76 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c04bd4a5>] do_vfs_ioctl+0x46d/0x4a7 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c05488d7>] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0x43/0x46 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c04bd525>] sys_ioctl+0x46/0x66 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0408474>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Mem-Info: >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: DMA per-cpu: >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 0: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 1: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Normal per-cpu: >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 0: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 185 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 1: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 164 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: HighMem per-cpu: >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 0: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 166 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 1: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 33 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Active_anon:175891 active_file:49820 inactive_anon:143709 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: inactive_file:16710 unevictable:2 dirty:2 writeback:0 unstable:0 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: free:100672 slab:14946 mapped:17942 pagetables:3270 bounce:0 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: DMA free:3548kB min:64kB low:80kB high:96kB active_anon:2516kB inactive_anon:2704kB active_file:0kB inactive_file:0kB unevictable:0kB present:15868kB pages_scanned:2647 all_unreclaimable? no >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 865 2007 2007 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Normal free:3400kB min:3728kB low:4660kB high:5592kB active_anon:387844kB inactive_anon:387984kB active_file:92kB inactive_file:0kB unevictable:0kB present:885944kB pages_scanned:675605 all_unreclaimable? no >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 9134 9134 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: HighMem free:395740kB min:512kB low:1740kB high:2972kB active_anon:313204kB inactive_anon:184120kB active_file:199188kB inactive_file:66840kB unevictable:8kB present:1169244kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 0 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: DMA: 1*4kB 20*8kB 19*16kB 16*32kB 6*64kB 1*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 3540kB >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Normal: 328*4kB 15*8kB 8*16kB 1*32kB 10*64kB 1*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 3384kB >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: HighMem: 2421*4kB 20044*8kB 9039*16kB 2230*32kB 153*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 395812kB >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 263903 total pagecache pages >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 0 pages in swap cache >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Swap cache stats: add 0, delete 0, find 0/0 >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Free swap = 0kB >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Total swap = 0kB >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 521939 pages RAM >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 294613 pages HighMem >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 8602 pages reserved >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 157846 pages shared >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 347371 pages non-shared >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Out of memory: kill process 6638 (run-mozilla.sh) score 459935 or a child >Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Killed process 6653 (firefox) > >(and so on). > > >-- >There's a traditional definition of a shyster: a lawyer who, when the law >is against him, pounds on the facts; when the facts are against him, >pounds on the law; and when both the facts and the law are against him, >pounds on the table. > -- Eben Moglen referring to SCO >-- >users mailing list >users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

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diagnosing OOM issue
by Dave Mitchell 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

I've recently upgraded my F11 system's RAM from 1Gb to 2Gb, and at the same time removed the swap device from /etc/fstab. Since then I'm getting the OOM killer killing off random processes after a few days' use, even when memory usage is (apparently) low. Can anyone advise me what's causing this? Its a 32-bit system, and I have a suspicion its something to do with low memory, but the tips I've found via Google seem to refer to the kernel parameter /proc/sys/vm/lower_zone_protection, which no longer exists. Further googling implies that this has been replaced with /proc/sys/vm/lowmem_reserve_ratio, but I can't make head nor tail of its documentation. Here is the state of my system after firefox and metacity were killed off, and I'd restarted firefox: # free -l total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2053480 1364452 689028 0 2048 965144 Low: 875028 866216 8812 High: 1178452 498236 680216 -/+ buffers/cache: 397260 1656220 Swap: 0 0 0 # cat /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 2053480 kB MemFree: 662628 kB Buffers: 1816 kB Cached: 968580 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 704108 kB Inactive: 586296 kB Active(anon): 602384 kB Inactive(anon): 503044 kB Active(file): 101724 kB Inactive(file): 83252 kB Unevictable: 8 kB Mlocked: 8 kB HighTotal: 1178452 kB HighFree: 653708 kB LowTotal: 875028 kB LowFree: 8920 kB SwapTotal: 0 kB SwapFree: 0 kB Dirty: 140 kB Writeback: 0 kB AnonPages: 320048 kB Mapped: 66756 kB Slab: 55960 kB SReclaimable: 17312 kB SUnreclaim: 38648 kB PageTables: 11492 kB NFS_Unstable: 0 kB Bounce: 0 kB WritebackTmp: 0 kB CommitLimit: 1026740 kB Committed_AS: 1810392 kB VmallocTotal: 122880 kB VmallocUsed: 24236 kB VmallocChunk: 83532 kB HugePages_Total: 0 HugePages_Free: 0 HugePages_Rsvd: 0 HugePages_Surp: 0 Hugepagesize: 2048 kB DirectMap4k: 12280 kB DirectMap2M: 897024 kB >From /var/log/messages: Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Xorg invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201d4, order=0, oomkilladj=0 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Xorg cpuset=/ mems_allowed=0 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Pid: 1844, comm: Xorg Not tainted 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i686.PAE #1 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Call Trace: Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048b7a5>] oom_kill_process+0x6e/0x1f2 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048bd54>] ? select_bad_process+0x87/0xce Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048be0e>] __out_of_memory+0x73/0x82 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048be80>] out_of_memory+0x63/0x88 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c048e0a1>] __alloc_pages_internal+0x2e8/0x38a Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0488bd1>] __page_cache_alloc+0x16/0x18 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0489a43>] read_cache_page_async+0x34/0xfd Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0495eea>] ? shmem_readpage+0x0/0x36 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0489b1d>] read_cache_page+0x11/0x49 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f821a134>] i915_gem_object_get_pages+0x91/0xdc [i915] Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f821bc8b>] i915_gem_object_bind_to_gtt+0x162/0x1f6 [i915] Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f821cbb5>] i915_gem_mmap_gtt_ioctl+0x189/0x1cc [i915] Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f81bbbf8>] drm_ioctl+0x202/0x292 [drm] Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<f821ca2c>] ? i915_gem_mmap_gtt_ioctl+0x0/0x1cc [i915] Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c05485bc>] ? inode_has_perm+0x60/0x6a Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c04bd01e>] vfs_ioctl+0x5c/0x76 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c04bd4a5>] do_vfs_ioctl+0x46d/0x4a7 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c05488d7>] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0x43/0x46 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c04bd525>] sys_ioctl+0x46/0x66 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: [<c0408474>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Mem-Info: Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: DMA per-cpu: Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 0: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 1: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Normal per-cpu: Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 0: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 185 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 1: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 164 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: HighMem per-cpu: Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 0: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 166 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: CPU 1: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 33 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Active_anon:175891 active_file:49820 inactive_anon:143709 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: inactive_file:16710 unevictable:2 dirty:2 writeback:0 unstable:0 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: free:100672 slab:14946 mapped:17942 pagetables:3270 bounce:0 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: DMA free:3548kB min:64kB low:80kB high:96kB active_anon:2516kB inactive_anon:2704kB active_file:0kB inactive_file:0kB unevictable:0kB present:15868kB pages_scanned:2647 all_unreclaimable? no Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 865 2007 2007 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Normal free:3400kB min:3728kB low:4660kB high:5592kB active_anon:387844kB inactive_anon:387984kB active_file:92kB inactive_file:0kB unevictable:0kB present:885944kB pages_scanned:675605 all_unreclaimable? no Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 9134 9134 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: HighMem free:395740kB min:512kB low:1740kB high:2972kB active_anon:313204kB inactive_anon:184120kB active_file:199188kB inactive_file:66840kB unevictable:8kB present:1169244kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 0 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: DMA: 1*4kB 20*8kB 19*16kB 16*32kB 6*64kB 1*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 3540kB Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Normal: 328*4kB 15*8kB 8*16kB 1*32kB 10*64kB 1*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 3384kB Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: HighMem: 2421*4kB 20044*8kB 9039*16kB 2230*32kB 153*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 395812kB Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 263903 total pagecache pages Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 0 pages in swap cache Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Swap cache stats: add 0, delete 0, find 0/0 Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Free swap = 0kB Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Total swap = 0kB Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 521939 pages RAM Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 294613 pages HighMem Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 8602 pages reserved Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 157846 pages shared Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: 347371 pages non-shared Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Out of memory: kill process 6638 (run-mozilla.sh) score 459935 or a child Apr 16 12:12:58 pigeon kernel: Killed process 6653 (firefox) (and so on). -- There's a traditional definition of a shyster: a lawyer who, when the law is against him, pounds on the facts; when the facts are against him, pounds on the law; and when both the facts and the law are against him, pounds on the table. -- Eben Moglen referring to SCO

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Recent migrant (from Windows) having trouble with LAN install
by Dick Roark 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

I have managed to get my laptop and desktop to successfully ping each other using wireless, answering each other with both IP address and name as appropriate. The network is connected through a wireless router. The rest * ought* to be easy. I have spent an embarrassing amount of time trying to get the actual LAN installed complete with GUI. At this point, the end result wanted is simply to exchange files. Dick Roark Singapore

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dealing with states of drowsiness, FC12, netbook
by jack craig 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Hi Folks, I admit to being new to mobile computers, laptops, netbooks, etc. there are more states on these systems that a desktop usually uses, including sleep and hibernate. is there an URL somewhere that will tell me how to recognize these different states and return my netbook to normal operating mode once the state of drowsiness is established? i fire up my asus netbook in the am and when i don't use it for an hr or so, it goes to sleep (or maybe hibernate) mode. the power button light is still on. but the only control i get is pressing and holding the power button until i get a shutdown. would some kind soul point me to a state managment URL? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com

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Re: Root with GUI
by R. G. Newbury 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

On 04/15/2010 10:12 AM, users-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak"<mjc(a)avtechpulse.com> > Subject: Re: Root with GUI > On 04/15/2010 08:24 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:21 AM,<hewjr1000(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> How do I make myself root in the GUI >> > Running a root GUI login is very much frowned upon. You forgot the stage directions: "Folds arms across chest, wags finger at suitably cowed and humiliated user.." It's 'frowned upon' by religious zealots who wish to impose their 'the sky could fall' fears upon everyone. A***oles piss me off. If you want to log in as root, you will have to start by logging in as a user, then 'su' yourself to root in a console, and cd to /etc/pam.d Run 'grep -H -n "!=" *' You should see something like: [root@tor1 pam.d]# grep -H -n "!=" * gdm:3:#auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet gdm-password:3:#auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet gdm-password.rpmsave:3:#auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet gdm.rpmsave:3:#auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet racoon:3:#auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root xdm:3:#auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet except in your case, there will be no '#' preceding the 'auth' in those files. Edit to add the '#" in all of the files your system lists, thus commenting out the line. Those lines make the authentication process quietly fail, if you are root. Stupid idiotic nanny-statism circumvented. There will be a test however, to see if this works and that you are awake. This test should have been done 15 days ago. Do 'su -', 'cd /' and then 'rm -rf *'. If you cannot log in after first considering whether you should follow these instructions, and you in fact followed them, then you have failed. Geoff Tux says: "Be regular. Eat cron flakes."

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