At the Fedora 17 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the F17 Final Release
(RC4) was declared GOLD and ready for GA on May 29, 2012.
Thanks to everyone who came today, and to everyone who helped get the
Beefy Miracle ready for public devouring. :) Links to meeting minutes
and logs follow below.
Cheers,
-Robyn
Meeting Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-24/fedora_17_fina…
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-24/fedora_17_fina…
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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora 17 Final Go NoGo Meeting Round 2
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Meeting started by rbergeron at 17:01:09 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-24/fedora_17_fina…
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Meeting summary
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* Why are we here (rbergero, 17:05:46)
* The purpose of this meeting is to determine the "shippiness" of the
final release of F17 (RC4, to be specific). All blocker bugs must be
resolved, the test matrices need to be completed, we need to meet
final release criteria, QA needs to be on board. :) (rbergero,
17:06:54)
* Blocker Bugs (rbergero, 17:07:23)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
(tflink, 17:08:21)
* (824191) nfsiso install hangs during reboot (tflink, 17:09:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824191 (tflink,
17:09:32)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:09:32)
* AGREED: - 824191 - RejectedBlocker - While this is a bug, it doesn't
directly violate any of the Fedora 17 release criteria (the install
completes, the installed system works). Given that it should only
affect a minority of users and could be fixed with an updates.img -
it doesn't need to block release. (tflink, 17:18:12)
* (824641) kernel 3.3 crashes with blk_dump_rq_flags+ when using a
file:/// backend instead of phy:// backend (tflink, 17:18:29)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824641 (tflink,
17:18:32)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:18:35)
* AGREED: - 824641 - RejectedBlocker - This appears to be a Dom0 issue
instead of a DomU issue which does not violate any of the Fedora 17
release criteria. In addition, the use of file:// storage backends
is not recommended and phy:// storage backends do not seem affected
by this bug (tflink, 17:34:24)
* Release Criteria and Test Matrices (rbergero, 17:35:34)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Final_RC4_Install
(tflink, 17:36:14)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Final_RC4_Desktop
(tflink, 17:36:28)
* 813257 is waived as a blocker as the only options are to wait
indefinitely for a fix or drop kdepim entirely; we can't just drop
the offending application as it's part of kdepim, which we need
(adamw, 17:46:13)
* 819275 agreed not to be worthy of blocker consideration as it
affects fallback mode only, and fallback mode is niche now (adamw,
18:03:31)
* Ship or not to ship, that is the question (rbergero, 18:04:32)
* AGREED: We shall ship the Beefy Miracle (aka F17) on Tuesday, May 29
(rbergero, 18:05:56)
Meeting ended at 18:07:23 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (90)
* tflink (56)
* rbergero (47)
* dgilmore (24)
* darnok (13)
* akshayvyas (7)
* nirik (6)
* red_alert (5)
* zodbot (5)
* kparal (3)
* mbroyles__ (3)
* ADSLLC (1)
* rbergeron (1)
* satellit_Tris55R (1)
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Please join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this
important meeting, wherein we shall determine the shipment readiness of
F17 Final.
Thursday, May 24, 2012 @ 17:00 UTC (13:00 EDT/10:00 PDT)
"Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet
to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release.
This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting."
"Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of
the QA Team."
For more details about this meeting see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting
In the meantime: Keep an eye on the blocker list here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
Let's ship the beefy miracle, folks! :)
-Robyn
At the Go/No-Go meeting today, it was decided to slip the GA of Fedora
17 by one week[1]. There are currently 4 remaining release blockers[2],
necessitating the creation of RC2. Minutes follow below.
GA for F17 is now scheduled for 2012-05-29. Adjustments to the
schedule[3] and wiki will be completed later today.
We will be meeting again next Thursday, 2012-05-24, for another Go/No-Go
meeting.
Thanks for your patience!
-Robyn
[1]
Minutes:http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-17/f17_fi…
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-17/f17_final_go_n…
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
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#fedora-meeting-1: F17 Final Go No Go Meeting
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Meeting started by rbergeron at 17:03:17 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-17/f17_final_go_n…
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Meeting summary
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* Gathering the Peeps (rbergeron, 17:03:43)
* Purpose of this meeting (rbergeron, 17:04:50)
* Purpose of this meeting is to see whether or not F17 Final is ready
for shipment, according to the release criteria. (rbergeron,
17:05:21)
* This is determined in a few ways: (rbergeron, 17:05:37)
* No remaining blocker bugs (rbergeron, 17:05:46)
* Test matrices are fully completed (rbergeron, 17:06:01)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
(rbergeron, 17:06:26)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria
(rbergeron, 17:07:01)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_17_Final_RC_Test_Results
(rbergeron, 17:08:28)
* Blocker Bugs (rbergeron, 17:09:31)
* 5 proposed blockers (tflink, 17:09:45)
* 2 accepted blockers (tflink, 17:09:45)
* (821077) Firstboot window does not fit the screen after install from
F17 TC4 Final KDE Live (tflink, 17:10:47)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821077 (tflink,
17:10:50)
* Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:10:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=585074 (spot,
17:14:32)
* packaging the C code outside of firstboot seems like the best
solution for now (tflink, 17:21:19)
* ACTION: spot to get patch packaged, get ajax to sanity check patch
(rbergeron, 17:23:02)
* ACTION: tflink to coordinate with mgracik re: firstboot changes
(rbergeron, 17:27:40)
* (822123) Graphical grub is unusable slow (tflink, 17:28:11)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822123 (tflink,
17:28:11)
* Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:28:11)
* workedaround, just need to wait for RC2 (rbergeron, 17:31:00)
* anaconda-17.28-1 should workaround this to the point where it's no
longer a blocker (tflink, 17:31:01)
* (794927) PackageKit cannot import GPG keys - Fatal error:
GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._pk_5ftransaction_5ferror.Code14:
Invalid input passed to daemon: char '<' in text! (tflink, 17:31:54)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794927 (tflink,
17:31:58)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:32:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998 (nirik,
17:36:26)
* AGREED: - 794927 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 17 alpha
release criterion "The installed system must be able to download and
install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager
in all release-blocking desktops" (tflink, 17:42:27)
* (748320) automatically import default GPG keys (tflink, 17:42:37)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748320 (tflink,
17:42:37)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:42:39)
* AGREED: - 748320 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't
directly hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and we've been
shipping like this for a while now - rejected as blocker. However,
this would improve the user experience and a tested fix would be
considered for inclusion past code freeze (tflink, 17:47:12)
* (822430) PK is stuck after installing a single update (tflink,
17:47:20)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822430 (tflink,
17:47:20)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:47:20)
* no kittens will be harmed during the triage and fix for this bug ...
if all goes according to plan (tflink, 18:03:59)
* AGREED: - 822430 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't
completely hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and has a
simple workaround - install all of the updates. Thus it can be fixed
by an update and does not need to block release. However, it does
cause problems with certain update use cases and would be considered
for freeze break. Separate patches and/or builds for the different
PK issues are requested so that they can be evaluated in (tflink,
18:04:12)
* (820478) [ta_IN] Without autohinting tamil strings rendering is badly
broken. (tflink, 18:04:28)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820478 (tflink,
18:04:31)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:04:34)
* AGREED: - 820478 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't
directly hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria but it does
impact readability and user experience for installations in Tamil.
The fix is built and tested, will accept if more composes are done.
(tflink, 18:09:16)
* (815473) Preugprade from F16 to F17 Beta doesn't successfully set the
boot menu default (tflink, 18:09:32)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815473 (tflink,
18:09:35)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:09:37)
* (815473) Preugprade from F16 to F17 Beta doesn't successfully set the
boot menu default (tflink, 18:17:06)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815473 (tflink,
18:17:09)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:17:11)
* AGREED: - 815473 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't affect the ability
of preupgrade to actually work and thus, doesn't violate the Fedora
17 release criteria. The workaround is relatively painless but a new
preupgrade build is very much desired as the issue has been fixed in
git (tflink, 18:21:02)
* (822495) Fedora 17 DVD build does not contain device-mapper-multipath
(tflink, 18:22:48)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822495 (tflink,
18:22:51)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:22:53)
* AGREED: - 822495 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 17 final
release criterion "The installer must be able to complete an
installation using any network-attached storage devices (e.g. iSCSI,
FCoE, Fibre Channel)" and multipath is very much the norm for higer
end networked storage (tflink, 18:26:20)
* Go or No Go? (rbergeron, 18:32:23)
* Test matrices are pretty much covered, except SCSI, which we are
always missing. (rbergeron, 18:32:51)
* 4 blockers - 2 previously accepted, 2 new (rbergeron, 18:36:12)
* some desktop tests, including KDE, are missing, we need an RC2 spin.
(rbergeron, 18:36:52)
* AGREED: F17 Final (from RC1) is a no-go; we slip one week, for a GA
of May 29. (rbergeron, 18:38:10)
* Release readiness meeting in this channel in 20 minutes (rbergeron,
18:39:38)
* ACTION: rbergeron to send out slip mail with a sad, unbeefy face
(rbergeron, 18:40:02)
* Next Go/No-Go will be 2012-05-24, same bat time, same bat channel
(17:00 UTC, 13:00 eastern, 10:00 pacific) (rbergeron, 18:45:40)
Meeting ended at 18:48:34 UTC.
Action Items
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* spot to get patch packaged, get ajax to sanity check patch
* tflink to coordinate with mgracik re: firstboot changes
* rbergeron to send out slip mail with a sad, unbeefy face
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* rbergeron
* rbergeron to send out slip mail with a sad, unbeefy face
* spot
* spot to get patch packaged, get ajax to sanity check patch
* tflink
* tflink to coordinate with mgracik re: firstboot changes
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (152)
* rbergeron (136)
* adamw (83)
* nirik (52)
* spot (19)
* sgallagh (13)
* drago01 (10)
* bcl (6)
* zodbot (6)
* mclasen (4)
* dgilmore (0)
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Fedora 17 Final Release Readiness Meeting.
date: 2012-05-17
place: irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1
time: 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern, 12 PM Pacific)
This Thursday, May 17, we will meet to make sure we are coordinated and
ready for the GA of Fedora 17 on Tuesday, May 22, 2012. Please note
that this meeting will occur on May 17 *even if the release is delayed
at the Go/No-Go meeting held earlier in the day on May 17.*
This meeting works best when we have representatives from all of the
teams, so we'll be looking for the following people to attend or send a
representative in their place. Representatives, please let me know if
you'll be unavailable for this meeting so we can make alternate
arrangements!
Ambassadors -- Christoph Wickert (may need an alternate here, due to travel)
Design -- Máirín Duffy
Documentation -- Ben Cotton
FESCo -- Kevin Fenzi
Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway
Fedora Project Leader/Program Manager -- Robyn Bergeron
Infrastructure -- Kevin Fenzi
Marketing -- Robyn Bergeron
Quality -- Adam Williamson
Release Engineering -- Dennis Gilmore
Translation -- Noriko Mizumoto
Websites -- Ricky Zhou (may need an alternate here?)
See you Thursday in #fedora-meeting-1!
-Robyn
Please join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this
important meeting, wherein we shall determine the shipment readiness of
F17 Final.
Thursday, May 17, 2012 @ 17:00 UTC (13:00 EDT/10:00 PDT)
"Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet
to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release.
This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting."
"Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of
the QA Team."
For more details about this meeting see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting
Note that we have historically had Go/No-go on Wednesdays, and Tuesdays
for Final; we have been pushing the final call consistently to
Thursdays, and thus (by popular demand) we are going to attempt having
the meeting on Thursday itself, rather than dragging it out. The
release readiness meeting will still follow this meeting, on Thursday.
-Robyn
> Hi Kevin,
>
> have you try to speck with Tatica? She was helping the setup during the
> Fudcon Milan and she did the activities to have it online. Probably she can
> help you
>
> Take care
> Francesco
>
Hi, Thanks Francesco,
I've seen with her… That this is a complete mess!
Adding the logistic list now that we need to sort this issue.
To summarize the fudcon.fpo websites status:
- From the Websites team perspective, we don't know how this website
is maintained, it was originally a staging solution waiting for a
Drupal instance to be set up (from my last 2 weeks research…)
- fudcon.fedoraproject.org is *really* outdated
- There is no "FUDCon" comitee, we don't have anyone to refer if
something is done wrong, or if something is missing.
- The FUDCon wiki pages have nothing about publishing in
fudcon.fedoraproject.org or any other alternatives
- The first maintainers of fudcon.fedoraproject.org are the one that
wanted to set up the Drupal instance (was insight helping them?), but
I can't find its current status, last info was on October 2011, and
involved guys are not responding (I think it was shreyankg and
tuxdna).
To sort this, I am also adding in CC the FUDCon owners of the last and
future events, if you guys have been trying to deal with this website
(fudcon.fpo) before…
If anyone has any input, please tell me about this Drupal thing,
otherwise I'll simply forgot about this and setup a working process
for fudcon.fedoraproject.org maintained by the websites team,
translated by translators, and fully designed in HTML/CSS. There will
be no foolish registering things.
Have a nice day,
--
Kévin Raymond
(shaiton)
GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2