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>    1. Re: Mixer Wowes (William M. Quarles)
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>  Message: 1
>  Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:20:32 -0400
>  From: "William M. Quarles" <walrus(a)bellsouth.net&gt;
>  Subject: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
>  To: fedora-music-list(a)redhat.com
>  Cc: planetccrma(a)ccrma.stanford.edu
>  Message-ID: <gu04ti$mpb$1(a)ger.gmane.org&gt;
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>  David Timms wrote:
>  > William M. Quarles wrote:
>  >  > David Timms wrote:
>  >  >> William M. Quarles wrote:
>  >  >>> I have Fedora 10 and a machine with a (please, no laughing or
>  >  >>> snickering) Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value sound card and
>  a
>  >  >>> Sigma Designs RealMagic Hollywood Plus DVD decoder card. While the
>  >  >>> computer loads the ALSA drivers needed for both cards,
>  >  >> As evidenced by ?
>  >  >
>  >  > Uh, as evidenced by lsmod? I'm not a newbie if that's what you're
>  > implying.
>  > Yes, but really was it an alsa util you used, lsmod or looking at /proc ?
>
>  lsmod and /proc were used, and they were used before I wrote the
>  original message, thank you.
>
>
>  >  > [root@quarlewm ~]# lsmod
>  > I suggested grep snd so that we would get sound related modules, not the
>  > whole thing. It's just faster to look at the reduced version. I can
>  > however see all the modules seem to be linked up.
>
>  I know you did make that suggestion. I had different purposes in mind,
>  as it seems you inadvertently stumbled upon them.
>
>  >  >> I'm not sure which mod the awe needs, but check lsmod |grep snd
>  >  >> Maybe fpaste.org your alsa-info results for others to check
>  >  >
>  >  > The AWE 64 cards use snd-sbawe module, which can be easily checked on
>  >  > http://www.alsa-project.org/'s
> <http://www.alsa-project.org/%27s>sound card matrix.
>  > Given that your asking for help, I probably won't be going searching
>  > sites to try to find appropriate info; I'll ask you to, or you could
>  > offer that info, and hence we know what you've tried.
>  >
>  >  > I have no idea what you mean by fpaste.org
>  > One of many paste-bin web sites. These allow anonymous (you do need to
>  > supply an email address that is used to limit bad usage of the site)
>  > text upload site. It's really just a holder for bits of text from logs /
>  > compiles etc that would unnecessarily fill up mailing list user's email
>  > boxes.
>  > http://fpaste.org is targeted towards Fedora users.
>
>  Great, guess I'm a old fogey not up on the current trends. Then again, I
>  did stop using GNU/Linux for about three or four years up until recently.
>
>  I uploaded my alsa-info.txt to <http://fpaste.org/paste/11316>;.
>
>  >  >, but alsa-info does seem like
>  >  > a good idea in this case; however it also unfortunately seems a little
>  >  > useless since it reveals a great deal of output, but I can't copy and
>  >  > paste any of it into this post
>  > That's the point of the paste-bin, we don't really want large log files
>  > in our email boxes.
>
>  This stuff should all be in newsgroups anyway, that's why I am very glad
>  to have found out about GMANE back around when Fedora Core 1 came out.
>
>  >  > , and the final message upon exiting the program says:
>  >  >
>  >  >     Your ALSA information is located at
>  >  >     Please inform the person helping you.
>  >  >
>  >  > So, uh, LOCATED AT big blank?
>  > Yeah, that didn't work out well:
>  > Your ALSA information is located at
>  >
>  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=23db04e4a7aeaa23357d00481f38b86638e90b21
>  >
>  > Please inform the person helping you.
>  > $
>  >
>  > Well it normally pastes to the alsa project pastebin, and gives the link
>  > (which worked for me). I'm guessing your internet/web access is normal,
>  > so perhaps this is further indication of something going wrong during
>  > alsa calls ?
>
>  Define normal. I'm using a docked Win XP Pro laptop right now as a router.
>
>  >  > Gee, diagnostic program.
>  > has a --help capability:
>  > alsa-info --help
>  >   shows a debug option, that stores the large alsa log on your local
>  > disk so that you could manually put it on a pastebin, and post the link
>  > back here.
>
>  I know that it has a help function, but I did not know that the debug
>  option left the log file that we were looking for behind on the hard
>  drive. It would make more sense to me if they did both a local dump and
>  an upload simultaneously.
>
>  However, since you suggested, I tried the debug option. The program left
>  the file behind, but not where the help function said that it would
>  leave it behind, so basically there is a bug in the debug function, or a
>  bug in the help function. depending on your point of view I suppose.
>
>  Curiosity, alsa-info is offering to update itself, which I didn't do in
>  hear of breaking any Fedora customizations. Did you do the update? Would
>  you suggest that I do the update?
>
>  >  >>> the sound controls in GNOME only display the Hollywood+ controls,
>  and
>  >  >>> nothing is available for the AWE 64.
>  > Bugger.
>
>  You betcha.
>
>  >  > [root@quarlewm ~]# alsamixer
>  >  > ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
>  >  > Connection refused
>  > If pulseaudio wasn't running, I think you would get a different error
>  like:
>  > $ alsamixer
>  > E: socket-client.c: socket(): Address family not supported by protocol
>  >  > alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection
>  refused
>
>  alsamixer decided to work today. ;-) Or maybe it was Pulseaudio, which
>  is new to me. Same stuff as in the GNOME mixer, unfortuntely.
>
>  >  > [root@quarlewm ~]# alsaunmute
>  >  > Unknown hardware: "SB AWE" "CTL1745" "CTL1745"
> "" ""
>  >  > Hardware is initialized using a guess method
>  >  > /lib/alsa/init/default:17: unable to convert dB value '-20dB' to
>  >  > internal integer range
>  > Mine:
>  > $ alsaunmute
>  > Unknown hardware: "CA0106" "" "" ""
> ""
>  > Hardware is initialized using a guess method
>  > $
>
>  alsaunmute behaved the same as yesterday, pretty much.
>
>  > I guess aplay wont work either ?
>
>  It doesn't seem to... then again I don't have a file on hand for it to
>  play.
>
>  > alsamixer -c0 ?
>
>  Wow, that's the spirit! So how do I get the GNOME sound stuff to
>  recognize it?
>
>  > ps aux|grep -E 'pad|pav|pul'
>  >
>  > I'm assuming playback is a problem as well, not just mixer control ?
>
>  Well, now that alsamixer is working, yes, I am getting sound. Do you
>  know how to fix the GNOME mixer issues?
>
>  > Do you have the option to try without the decoder card installed, for a
>  > giggle ?
>  >
>  > DaveT.
>  >
>
>  Yeah, I can give that a shot, I'll get back to you on it. But please,
>  give me a reply to what I have written here already before I do.
>
>  Thanks,
>  William
>
>
>
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>  Message: 2
>  Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:52:50 -0400
>  From: "William M. Quarles" <walrus(a)bellsouth.net&gt;
>  Subject: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
>  To: fedora-music-list(a)redhat.com
>  Cc: planetccrma(a)ccrma.stanford.edu
>  Message-ID: <gu06q4$pv6$1(a)ger.gmane.org&gt;
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>  William M. Quarles wrote:
>  > David Timms wrote:
>  <snip>
>  >> I'm assuming playback is a problem as well, not just mixer control ?
>  >
>  > Well, now that alsamixer is working, yes, I am getting sound. Do you
>  > know how to fix the GNOME mixer issues?
>  >
>
>  OK, unfortunately, the sound that I am getting from XMMS playing MP3
>  files is intermittently distorted, and is somehow actually coming from
>  the decoder card instead of the sound card, then getting passed through
>  to the sound card via the internal patch cable that I have installed. I
>  checked this by using alsamixer to vary the volume on the sound card's
>  CD input, and also by varying the volume on the decoder card.
>
>  >> Do you have the option to try without the decoder card installed, for a
>  >> giggle ?
>  >>
>  >> DaveT.
>  >>
>  >
>  > Yeah, I can give that a shot, I'll get back to you on it. But please,
>  > give me a reply to what I have written here already before I do.
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > William
>  >
>
>  Haven't gotten around to that yet still, I'll probably try it tomorrow.
>
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