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by Steve Blackwell

I want to upgrade my home F9 system to F10 but I seem to recall someone on this list saying that the emu10k1 driver for my Audigy card is no longer supported and I need this (or I need to buy a new sound card!). A few other people were upset about this and there was some talk of someone picking up the maintenance of this driver. Does anyone know the current situation? Thanks, Steve

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Files corrupt on copy

by Andy Campbell

I'm having an issue where when I copy files, they are not copying correctly - they are corrupt, I've checked using cmp, and generating md5sum There are no errors I can see from cp, rsync. Initially I though it was a problem with an external USB drives now after some testing it seem to be normal SATA drives as well. I've got a few drives in the box and they all have the same issue. I thought it might be memory - but memtest runs fine, and I tried taking out a couple of the sticks - I have 4x2Gb no difference. I've written a little rsync script to copy some files around, rsync once, then rsync again, using checksum - in theory the second run should have nothing to do, but will randomly have to re-copy files. Strangely I tried booting off of a live distro ( System Rescue 32bit ) and didn't get any errors. The system seem to run fine generally - but I started noticing some of the big files I was syncing to external drives where erroring. Just repeatedly running md5sum on a file gives consistent results - I would have though if was a memory problem that would have give different results. I've turned AHCI on in BIOS recently as I've install a WD Raptor, and re-installed F10 - would that affect filesystems on other drives - is AHCI buggy ? I'm using Fedora 10 64bit, Asus P5Q-E Motherboard, Q9950 ( stock speed ), 8Gb Corsair memory Any guesses, Kernel bug ? Hardware ? Hopefully not hardware as its a fairly recent build. My Test some runs are better some are worse .... (1) [trantor] ..scratch/tmp $cat do_test.bash #/bin/bash echo === Copying test files to /tmp mkdir -p src tgt for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 do echo "================================== test $i" rm -f tgt/*zip echo Initial Copy from src to tgt rsync -a src/*zip tgt/ echo echo Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy echo rsync -a -v --checksum src/*zip tgt/ done [trantor] ..scratch/tmp $./do_test.bash === Copying test files to /tmp ================================== test 1 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list file6.zip sent 278691256 bytes received 31 bytes 8319142.90 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 5.10 ================================== test 2 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list file1.zip file3.zip file6.zip file7.zip file8.zip sent 1121629814 bytes received 107 bytes 21364379.45 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 1.27 ================================== test 3 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list file3.zip file4.zip file5.zip file7.zip sent 803961910 bytes received 88 bytes 16925515.75 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 1.77 ================================== test 4 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list file1.zip file3.zip file7.zip sent 726571560 bytes received 69 bytes 15625196.32 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 1.96 ================================== test 5 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list file1.zip file4.zip file7.zip sent 642641285 bytes received 69 bytes 11791584.48 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 2.21 ================================== test 6 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list file1.zip file2.zip file3.zip file4.zip file6.zip file8.zip sent 916463546 bytes received 126 bytes 17795411.11 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 1.55 ================================== test 7 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list file3.zip file5.zip file6.zip file7.zip sent 975716123 bytes received 88 bytes 18585070.69 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 1.46 ================================== test 8 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list file3.zip file4.zip file6.zip sent 576495041 bytes received 69 bytes 13891448.43 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 2.47 ================================== test 9 Initial Copy from src to tgt Second Copy with checksum - should be no files to copy sending incremental file list sent 288 bytes received 12 bytes 10.17 bytes/sec total size is 1422447131 speedup is 4741490.44 Thanks Andy

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How and when do updates of apps get into repos?

by DB

Hi all, A question that has scratched at my grey cell for a time..... There are apps in repos & there are more recent versions on their home pages or in Source Forge - how and when do the updated versions get incorporated into the repos? And the other side of the same question.... If I install/build/compile or whatever one of these updated versions into my F10, will yum & co be able to keep tabs on it or must I keep a running watch on the page I got it from? And.... if I find an RPM on a non-Fedora site, what are likely/possible side-effect consequences of installing it?? Thanks Dave

14 years, 10 months

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Mappery : uncertain success with Fedora/Wine/Garmin

by Beartooth

Followups set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general I'm presently running four PCs, two thinkpad laptops (a T30 and a T42), and an EeePC (which doesn't come into this). Everything but my #1 PC is running Fedora 11, and all of them have some version of Garmin Mapsource MetroGuide and TopoUSA2008. Most of them also have DeLorme TopoUSA6, Maptech's Appalachian Trail suite, or both. On one laptop, the software not only doesn't launch, but crashes the whole machine -- after which I have to wait a surprisingly long time before I can reboot. On all the others, the Garmin software (but not the DeLorme) does launch and run. Iirc, on the other laptop it does also talk to my GPSs; it does not talk to them (nor even see them, alas!) on any of the three F11 PCs -- that's why #1 is still running F10 instead of F11. #1 (only) also has a second hard drive, on which XPProSP2 is installed -- native OS for all the mapware suites. (I have another suite from Topo.com, sold by National Geographic, which I haven't tried lately.) My installs/upgrades of F11 have been partly with media and partly with the new preupgrade command; both have sometimes bollixed things so badly that I eventually had to do a clean install; the preupgrade has also gone smoothly a couple of times. The Fedora repositories now contain six or eight apps for Garmin, and more (with a lot of overlap) for GPSs in general; I have tried to install all of both on all machines. I don't know why the other three PCs can't see the GPSs. If I find the reason and get them to do it soon, I'll upgrade all of PC #1 to F11, and have a house free of M$h!t again. If not, I'll try to preserve XP on its drive for another round... Anybody have a guess -- or a way to find out -- why the same software connects to the same GPSs on two machines, but not on four others?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

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Display all washed out

by Beartooth

Those of you who remember old-fashioned color film cameras will remember an occasional badly overexposed pic, in everything looked all washed out, or bleached. I have an F11 PC that looks like that. It's behind a KVM switch with three other PCs, two running F11, and one still running F10. All the others look normal, and this one used to. I've been trying for a couple days to get "yum install system- config-display" to go to completion. Once it got as far as starting to download, but then hung again. Why am I not getting that app? Is there some other way to fix the washed-out look? It's so bad that most text is very hard to read. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

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Re: State of sound in Linux not so sorry after all

by Valent Turkovic

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Valent Turkovic<valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is copy/paste of article "State of sound in Linux not so sorry after all" found at http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-s... It is really interesting article, and comments are also really insightful. *** About two years Uff, now I see that Lennart Poettering, Pulse Audio Guru, has already answered about this post on PA mailing list, sorry ;) Lennart: "Nah, this is a complete and utter bullshit story. Slashdot just proved again that it is full of nonsense. Gah. Disgusting. I don't think that this deserves a real response. I mean really, this smells more like a astroturfing from 4front, with all that OSS4 fanboyism. This guys is just some lame fud blogger, not a technical guy who does any real the work, knows the technical details, works with the community and gets his stuff into the kernel or the distributions. Would be good if Slashdot would verify that the folks whose story they post actually know what they are talking about. Because this dude obviously hasn't. But I guess Slashdot is not the New York Times and asking some actual respected Linux developers or even just linux-audio-devel before publishing such FUD stories would be asking for too much. That famous Adobe jungle picture that was posted 2007 was grossly misleading already, and it still is. At least arts, nas, esd, oss were obsolete back then already, and mentioning almost unknown niche system such as Allegro or ClanLib doesn't make it any better. What I have to say about the situation of Linux audio APIs I posted here: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/guide-to-sound-apis.html If you care enough about slashdot, then try to get them to bring a story about that blog story, even if it is already frm last year. As a change from their usual stories this one, as I dare to say, would be written by someone who has at least a bit insight into what's really going on. ;-) Lennart " -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

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Yum not working after upgrade

by Colin Paul Adams

Yum is not working after I upgraded from F10 to F11. yum update gives me: here was a problem importing one of the Python modules required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was: No module named yum Please install a package which provides this module, or verify that the module is installed correctly. It's possible that the above module doesn't match the current version of Python, which is: 2.6 (r26:66714, Mar 17 2009, 11:44:14) [GCC 4.4.0 20090313 (Red Hat 4.4.0-0.26)] If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to the yum faq at: http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq rpm -q yum gives me: yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch so it looks like it wasn't upgraded. How am I supposed to fix this by hand? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire

14 years, 10 months

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f11 - missing font?

by Frank Cox

Some of the xscreensaver hacks seem to be looking for font(s) that aren't present on this machine: memscroller: unable to load font: "-*-courier-bold-r-*-*-*-320-*-*-m-*-*-*" memscroller: unable to load font: "-*-courier-bold-r-*-*-*-480-*-*-m-*-*-*" memscroller: unable to load font: "-*-courier-bold-r-*-*-*-960-*-*-m-*-*-*" memscroller: unable to load font: "-*-courier-bold-r-*-*-*-1440-*-*-m-*-*-*" This is a new set-up-from-scratch F11 machine, not one that was upgraded from a previous version. What's missing? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com

14 years, 10 months

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Inkscape -- whiteboard

by davide

How can I find out the option used to compile and generate a package provided by Fedora? I would be interested in knowing if Fedora compiled inkscape with whiteboard support. If not, how can I modify the option and recompile it using the src.rpm infracstructure? thanks, d.

14 years, 10 months

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Burning .thunderbird to a cd/dvd changes r/w

by Jim

When burning .thunderbird folder to a cd/dvd it changes the r/w priviledges in Mail folders to r only. and you say no way, well i'm sitting here looking at the mail folders on the dvd and all of them say 'read' In the past I noticed if I move the .thunderbird folder onto a hard drive or flash drive I had no problems of putting the .thunderbird folder onto a new upgrade/install and it would work perfectly.

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