Tutorial ideas for the new fp.o site

[Ian MacGregor]

I'm happy, no excited to be a part of the new fp.o website and have come up
with some ideas for tutorials:

* Agave tutorial - creating color schemes with agave
* Crontab tutorial - creating a cronjob
* Desktop launcher tutorial - creating a desktop launcher
* GIMP tutorial - creating custom desktop wallpapers
* Gnote tutorial - using the gnote app

I can write most of these as I use all of these apps, and I have taught a
class on crontab recently. I'm submitting these for feedback. What does
everyone think?

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi Ian!

On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 08:21 -0700, Ian MacGregor wrote:
>  I'm happy, no excited to be a part of the new fp.o website and
> have
>  come up with some ideas for tutorials:
>  
>  * Agave tutorial - creating color schemes with agave
>  * Crontab tutorial - creating a cronjob
>  * Desktop launcher tutorial - creating a desktop launcher
>  * GIMP tutorial - creating custom desktop wallpapers
>  * Gnote tutorial - using the gnote app
>  
>  I can write most of these as I use all of these apps, and I have
>  taught a class on crontab recently. I'm submitting these for feedback.
>  What does everyone think? 
This is a great start! I think we should be looking to produce tutorials
on how-to do things posed in terms of the user's life rather than the
technology, which is really the only critique I have of your list. For
example, here's a stab at how these might be posed better to reflect a
site visitor's POV:

- How to build beautiful color palettes for your home and wardrobe
(Agave)

- Automatically upload your files to a backup drive every week
(crontab)

- Access your favorite app with one click
(desktop launcher)

- Decorate your desktop with family photos
(Gimp tutorial)

- Get organized and build a personal database
(Gnote)


Out of these, though, I think crontab and desktop launcher stand out to
me as maybe not being the best for beginning users. Crontab is not
really for the faint of heart (I have an RHCT and I still prefer GUI
apps to interacting with crontab on the desktop - I only crontab on the
servers I admin). The desktop launcher I think, is kind of difficult to
pose in terms of something the user can accomplish - I think it's too
implementation/desktop specific. 

One tutorial you forgot from the list is turning your friends into the
Hulk with cheese. I think that could replace the crontab one quite well.
I would suggest maybe coming up with a different idea to replace the
desktop launcher one as well, unless you can think of a strong user
story behind it.

~m

[Ian MacGregor]

2010/7/16 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;

>  Hi Ian!
>
>  On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 08:21 -0700, Ian MacGregor wrote:
>  > I'm happy, no excited to be a part of the new fp.o website and have
>  > come up with some ideas for tutorials:
>  >
>  > * Agave tutorial - creating color schemes with agave
>  > * Crontab tutorial - creating a cronjob
>  > * Desktop launcher tutorial - creating a desktop launcher
>  > * GIMP tutorial - creating custom desktop wallpapers
>  > * Gnote tutorial - using the gnote app
>  >
>  > I can write most of these as I use all of these apps, and I have
>  > taught a class on crontab recently. I'm submitting these for feedback.
>  > What does everyone think?
>
>  This is a great start! I think we should be looking to produce tutorials
>  on how-to do things posed in terms of the user's life rather than the
>  technology, which is really the only critique I have of your list. For
>  example, here's a stab at how these might be posed better to reflect a
>  site visitor's POV:
>
>  - How to build beautiful color palettes for your home and wardrobe
>  (Agave)
>
>  - Automatically upload your files to a backup drive every week
>  (crontab)
>
>  - Access your favorite app with one click
>  (desktop launcher)
>
>  - Decorate your desktop with family photos
>  (Gimp tutorial)
>
>  - Get organized and build a personal database
>  (Gnote)
>
>
>  Out of these, though, I think crontab and desktop launcher stand out to
>  me as maybe not being the best for beginning users. Crontab is not
>  really for the faint of heart (I have an RHCT and I still prefer GUI
>  apps to interacting with crontab on the desktop - I only crontab on the
>  servers I admin). The desktop launcher I think, is kind of difficult to
>  pose in terms of something the user can accomplish - I think it's too
>  implementation/desktop specific.
>
>  One tutorial you forgot from the list is turning your friends into the
>  Hulk with cheese. I think that could replace the crontab one quite well.
>  I would suggest maybe coming up with a different idea to replace the
>  desktop launcher one as well, unless you can think of a strong user
>  story behind it.
>
>  ~m
>
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Excellent advice all around! I'll replace the crontab tutorial with the
cheese idea and drop the desktop launcher idea.

The folks I've already met on the project have lots of energy, I can already
see that this is going to be fun!

[Catalin]

I have a better idea , why don't put one online editor on fedora web site
Something like this : http://www.pixlr.com/editor/


2010/7/16 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Hi Ian!
>
>  On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 08:21 -0700, Ian MacGregor wrote:
> > I'm happy, no excited to be a part of the new fp.o website and have
> > come up with some ideas for tutorials:
> >
> > * Agave tutorial - creating color schemes with agave
> > * Crontab tutorial - creating a cronjob
> > * Desktop launcher tutorial - creating a desktop launcher
> > * GIMP tutorial - creating custom desktop wallpapers
> > * Gnote tutorial - using the gnote app
> >
> > I can write most of these as I use all of these apps, and I have
> > taught a class on crontab recently. I'm submitting these for feedback.
> > What does everyone think?
>
>  This is a great start! I think we should be looking to produce tutorials
>  on how-to do things posed in terms of the user's life rather than the
>  technology, which is really the only critique I have of your list. For
>  example, here's a stab at how these might be posed better to reflect a
>  site visitor's POV:
>
>  - How to build beautiful color palettes for your home and wardrobe
>  (Agave)
>
>  - Automatically upload your files to a backup drive every week
>  (crontab)
>
>  - Access your favorite app with one click
>  (desktop launcher)
>
>  - Decorate your desktop with family photos
>  (Gimp tutorial)
>
>  - Get organized and build a personal database
>  (Gnote)
>
>
>  Out of these, though, I think crontab and desktop launcher stand out to
>  me as maybe not being the best for beginning users. Crontab is not
>  really for the faint of heart (I have an RHCT and I still prefer GUI
>  apps to interacting with crontab on the desktop - I only crontab on the
>  servers I admin). The desktop launcher I think, is kind of difficult to
>  pose in terms of something the user can accomplish - I think it's too
>  implementation/desktop specific.
>
>  One tutorial you forgot from the list is turning your friends into the
>  Hulk with cheese. I think that could replace the crontab one quite well.
>  I would suggest maybe coming up with a different idea to replace the
>  desktop launcher one as well, unless you can think of a strong user
>  story behind it.
>
>  ~m
>
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>  


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[Máirín Duffy]

Hi Cata,

On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 18:42 +0300, Cata wrote:
>  I have a better idea , why don't put one online editor on fedora
> web site
>  Something like this : http://www.pixlr.com/editor/ 
While this could be a great idea in another context, I have two concerns
about your suggestion:

- As far as I can tell, pixlr isn't open source software

- The point of the tutorial is to show off what you can do with Fedora.
Pixlr isn't really part of Fedora, so it doesn't quite meet the
requirements.

Thanks for the idea though!

~m

[Catalin]

" Something like this ..." maybe the development team will solve this issue .
Maybe .

2010/7/16 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Hi Cata,
>
>  On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 18:42 +0300, Cata wrote:
> > I have a better idea , why don't put one online editor on fedora web site
> > Something like this : http://www.pixlr.com/editor/
>
>  While this could be a great idea in another context, I have two concerns
>  about your suggestion:
>
>  - As far as I can tell, pixlr isn't open source software
>
>  - The point of the tutorial is to show off what you can do with Fedora.
>  Pixlr isn't really part of Fedora, so it doesn't quite meet the
>  requirements.
>
>  Thanks for the idea though!
>
>  ~m
>
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[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 11:30 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  One tutorial you forgot from the list is turning your friends into
> the
>  Hulk with cheese. I think that could replace the crontab one quite well.
>  I would suggest maybe coming up with a different idea to replace the
>  desktop launcher one as well, unless you can think of a strong user
>  story behind it. 
You're just saying that because you're trying to keep my ugly Hulkified
mug rotating on the new web site.  I'm onto you!

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[Catalin]

I'm not know very well english language , but  i like to think is
something good in that .
Is just a idea , i don't think the web server will be so good to run
that software .
But some scripts , usefull script will need to create .
For example, development team have enough issues , like "usb
installer" is very bad ....

2010/7/16 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 11:30 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > One tutorial you forgot from the list is turning your friends into the
> > Hulk with cheese. I think that could replace the crontab one quite well.
> > I would suggest maybe coming up with a different idea to replace the
> > desktop launcher one as well, unless you can think of a strong user
> > story behind it.
>
>  You're just saying that because you're trying to keep my ugly Hulkified
>  mug rotating on the new web site.  I'm onto you!
>
>  --
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>
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