First evaluations after testing Anaconda and Gnome installations F19 TC3
by Onyeibo Oku
> I thought you may be interested in what I encountered.
>
> In my evaluation, I got more negative feelings about Gnome than the
> 3.6 version. With 3.6 version, for any program not within the
> favourites bar, it requires 4 mouse clicks to launch.
>
> With Fedora 19, Gnome 4.x it takes 7 mouse clicks. By the way, with
> Cinnamon, it is 1 mouse click to open the menu, then slide to the
> appropriate application and click a second time. Done.
> There is a favourites bar as well on the side, and a second favourites
> bar on the bottom panel.
>
> For a user of the system. Office, browse, email, some installed
> packages and games, Gnome 4.x is very heavy on using the left mouse
> button. I ended up with tendonitus and had to quit using Gnome, or
> suffer major tendon damage (repetitive action damage). It is I that
> had the problem and I cannot say that others will have experienced
> similar problems.
>
> I do have questions about Gnome 4. What is the difference between
> Favourites bar contents and Frequent items. If items are used
> frequently, they should replace the items in the favourites bar.
> Frenquent items list is maintained dynamically, and often incorrectly,
> and the other is a static placement. Did anyone notice that if an
> item is in Frequent side of the collection, it is no longer in the All
> side of the collection.
>
> My major grype with Gnome Desktop is the [:::] (9 sided die)
> launcher. Why is it not removed from the favourites bar and placed
> next to Activities? Putting it there would save two clicks on the
> mouse. With a little logic, it may even be possible to replace
> Activities by this [:::] launcher.
>
> If we look at the Linux users in the world, the majority of the
> population writes from left to right. (Arabic, Hebrew, and a few other
> languages are right to left). Therefore it made better sense to have
> the favourites bar and the workspace selection on the right side of
> the desktop presentation. Why do we have to slide from extreme top
> left to extreme right to select an alternate workspace.
> Ergonomical design and how people use the computer to generate output
> would indicate that there is much to do to improve Gnome.
>
> I am trying to be positive about identifying and fixing items that
> cause Linux users to shy away from Gnome.
>
> Regards
> Leslie
>
> Mr. Leslie Satenstein
> 50 years in Information Technology and going strong.
> Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
> and tomorrow will be even better. mailto:lsatenstein@yahoo.com
> alternative: leslie.satenstein(a)gmail.com
> SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.
Two things:
(1) I don't anything about Anaconda in that message
(2) The message has nothing to do with the fedora-design team and
shouldn't be on this mailing list
Thanks for running Fedora, but it might be more productive to send your
desktop evalution report to Gnome developers or fedora Desktop Group.
Regards
Onyeibo
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11 years, 1 month
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by S.Kemter
Hi,
as the time for the alpha release will be soon, we should work on the
banners. I sat down and tried to create something.
Maybe someone has a better idea
br gnokii
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11 years, 1 month
Re: [Design-team] Fedora logo on the Details panel of the GNOME control center
by Elad Alfassa
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On 04/03/2013 02:01 PM, Elad Alfassa wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2013 10:25 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/03/2013 03:33 AM, Elad Alfassa wrote:
>>>
>>>> control-center-3.8.0-2.fc19 added the Fedora logo (instead of the
>>>> GNOME logo) on the details panel of the GNOME desktop control center. This
>>>> is a good idea, but I see two problems:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Use the full logotype, not just the logomark
>>>> 2) The lack of the ™ symbol next to the logomark violates our own logo
>>>> usage guidelines [1].
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Elad, Thanks for bringing this up!, However, I dont have a functioning
>>> f19 machine at the moment, would you be able to upload a screenshot so we
>>> can see the logo as it is currently presented?
>>>
>>> WE i think we should also just file a bug against this component in
>>> Fedora. Is that the correct course of action?
>>>
>>> --ryanlerch
>>>
>>>
>> After a quick look into the patch that changed the logo, it seems that
>> it is using the following file (the image itself is supplied by the
>> fedora-logos package):
>> /usr/share/icons/Fedora/scalable/places/start-here.svg
>> That file is just the logomark (the F bubble), without the "TM"
>>
>> If we do want the full logo (fedora + bubble) here, i *think* this is the
>> file that should be used (once again the file itself is supplied by the
>> fedora-logos package):
>> /usr/share/fedora-logos/fedora_logo.svg
>>
>> Can anyone else throw any insight on what logo we should present here?
>>
>> cheers,
>> ryanlerch
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> I attached the screenshot below. IMO, the full logotype (fedora+bubble)
> would look *way* better in this screen
>
> --
> -Elad Alfassa.
>
>
> That logo (other than the lack of the TM) also looks quite large for the
> dialog that is displaying it.
>
> Attached is a couple of mockups of a smaller version of just the logo (the
> bottom mockup), and a version with the logotype as well (the top mockup).
> IMHO, just the bubble looks better balanced than the logotype because the
> distroname underneath is centered.
>
> Note that the attached mockups are just visualisations of ideas, and
> should not be interpreted as a final suggestion to implement.
>
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
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I personally dislike having the release name there. Especially that large,
we shouldn't emphasize it.
IMO we should either
a) use only the release number and not display the name, which is an
internal community injoke and nothing more.
b) put the release name and version under the gnome release version, and
have the full logomark on the top.
--
-Elad Alfassa.
11 years, 1 month
