8:47 a.m.
These are the minutes from the Hubs workshop at Flock today. I'm sending
this out to a couple of lists because I think it's something super
interesting to multiple teams, and the summary (I feel) does a good job
of explaining a complicated thing into common English. Enjoy!
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Meeting ended Fri Aug 5 13:40:50 2016 UTC.
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#fedora-flock-openqa: Fedora Hubs Meetup / Hackfest - Speaker:
Pierre-Yves Chibon (pingou)
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Meeting started by jflory7 at 11:33:02 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-flock-openqa/2016-08-05/flock201...
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Meeting summary
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* Getting ready / Introduction (jflory7, 11:33:16)
* What is Hubs? (jflory7, 11:48:42)
* Using fedmsg to capture all sorts of activities and information in
Fedora (jflory7, 11:48:53)
* Messages that cross over the bus all involve contributor activity -
1 thing with a problem (like other projects) is no easy way to
connect people with teams that are of interest to them and resources
they need to interact with these teams (jflory7, 11:50:19)
* Systems we use to talk to contributors has their challenges: IRC is
challenging but it's not something most people in the world are
familiar with, have to get client, join channel, register with
NickServ, etc. (same thing can go for mailing lists) (jflory7,
11:51:15)
* Fedora Hubs brings together many systems that we use for
communication and coordination and into a web-based view that
quickly connects people to teams with people in there and what's
happening in there (lowers the learning barrier) (jflory7,
11:51:52)
* Use a widget to follow a discussion and writing a reply, monitor
discussion, etc. (jflory7, 11:52:12)
* Because we have fedmsg, we don't need to vent new channels and new
activities that creates Balkanization problem of new vs. old
contributors (jflory7, 11:52:50)
* IDEA: Opening new views into existing systems (jflory7, 11:53:12)
* Hubs is designed to not just be one arrangement, each team can have
its own hub (jflory7, 11:53:24)
* What do we want to do? (jflory7, 11:54:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/243 (mizmo, 11:55:35)
* LINK: https://hubs-dev.fedorainfracloud.org (jflory7, 12:03:03)
* LINK: https://hubs-dev.fedorainfracloud.org/skrzepto/ (skrzepto,
12:06:38)
* === Widgets === (jflory7, 12:10:54)
* Adding widget to hub: View your Hub in edit mode, choose your
widget, add it, and configure it on the prompt right after
(jflory7, 12:12:44)
* Requesting a new meeting in Hubs creates a new meeting in Fedocal
(jflory7, 12:16:04)
* pkgdb: Seeing packages ready to be pushed to stable and other
similar details in widgets (jflory7, 12:17:37)
* Badges: View all of your badges (jflory7, 12:17:44)
* Pagure: Newest open pull requests on Pagure tagged with fedora-infra
tag (jflory7, 12:17:57)
* Can also interact with GitHub and Bugzilla (other widgets coming
from outside sources) (jflory7, 12:18:29)
* IDEA: Avoiding silo of communications: Sticky note is maybe not a
good idea because then it isolates those *not* using Hubs, so there
could be separation of information that someone may miss if they are
not on Hubs (jflory7, 12:19:39)
* IDEA: WhenIsGood widget, but need to take caution on communication
silos where it could separate the contributors who are and are not
using Hubs (jflory7, 12:20:13)
* === Hubs groups === (jflory7, 12:20:26)
* LINK: https://hubs-dev.fedorainfracloud.org/designteam/ (mizmo,
12:21:45)
* LINK: https://hubs-dev.fedorainfracloud.org/groups (jflory7,
12:22:54)
* Able to have community rules and guidelines in a group hub, as well
as meetings for schedule and past meeting minutes all from the main
team widget (jflory7, 12:23:54)
* HELP: Need more help on widgets, designing the hubs themselves for
groups - design team has good representation with ryanlerch and
mizmo, but we need more input and involvement with other groups and
teams (jflory7, 12:25:29)
* HELP: Packager needs help and input since it's a large group
(jflory7, 12:25:49)
* LINK: https://github.com/fedora-infra/zanata2fedmsg (jflory7,
12:26:16)
* IRC widget in progress which allows you to view design team channel
(a la Facebook Messenger style) on IRC, you can live chat with the
folks you can see on the hub (jflory7, 12:27:21)
* Q: "My personal hub... will people be able to see that?" (jflory7,
12:30:48)
* A: Yes, but plan to get private and public side, e.g. your live
feed, library widget, things from FAS (jflory7, 12:31:28)
* Personal stream in development for saving things from your incoming
stream for later reference (jflory7, 12:32:28)
* === History of project === (jflory7, 12:32:48)
* New Hubs superhero will be sayan for leading the project forward
(jflory7, 12:33:54)
* HELP: We need some assistance with the IRC widget with user use
case, we're working with developers to developers - mockups would be
helpful (jflory7, 12:35:47)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issues?tags=needsmockup
(jflory7, 12:35:48)
* === So what do we want to do moving forward? === (jflory7,
12:42:18)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/243 <= scavenger hunt, if
anyone is up for a challenge (mizmo, 12:43:15)
* Q: "Do you have a Vagrant set up for this?" (jflory7, 12:45:10)
* A: No-yes? ryanlerch has something he has been working on as a work
in progress, but needs some more visiting (jflory7, 12:45:47)
* HELP: fedora-hubs#243 could use another pair of eyes (jflory7,
12:46:59)
* Open hacking (jflory7, 12:50:10)
* LINK: http://localhost:5000/designteam/ <= no problem (mizmo,
12:52:42)
* LINK: http://localhost:5000/duffy/ <= oopsie (mizmo, 12:52:50)
Meeting ended at 13:40:50 UTC.
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