proposal for new "FOSCo" group to mirror FESCo
by Matthew Miller
I posted individual messages to a number of other mailing lists, but
this one I'm just cross-posting to the three lists for the product
working groups. We've floated a proposal to have a new "Fedora Outreach
Steering Committee", which would replace FAmSCo — so no net new
governance groups added, following Mitr's ban on such things :).
The idea is to help coordinate marketing, support, and evangelism like
we do the engineering side of things. I'm posting this on _these_
lists, because I think that if we do go this route, we should have
FOSCo WG liaisons just like the FESCo liaison.
--
Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
9 years, 6 months
Branding concerns about workstation
by Máirín Duffy
Hi folks,
Christian and I talked about some of the points brought up in this
thread this morning and we agreed that a good way forward would be to
come up with:
(1) A written policy on how we brand Fedora, and also
(2) A documented process that can be followed when there's a request to
change that policy.
I'm going to go back through this thread (and some of the other related
ones that have popped up over time, this seems to come up cyclically
lately) and talk to some of the stakeholders involved (including Matthew
from the Fedora POV, one of the RHEL product managers from the RHEL POV
since our branding ability affects RHEL, Jakub who is one of the GNOME
shell designers) to list out all of the goals / needs we have and
various possibilities to address them that won't compromise the design
but also achieve the goals we have (if that's possible :) Let's be
optimistic and assume it is.)
I am going to reach out to some of our Red Hat corporate branding folks
too since a lot of them have deep experience on this sort of problem
space not just from RH's perspective but from their work at other
companies and see if I can't find someone to advise us from that sort of
third-person / objective POV as well - maybe they might have some good
insight or solution we haven't considered.
I have a few other things to tie up today but I will have a rough draft
at a problem statement written up this week and will start some other
documentation too (e.g. going through the thread and pulling out
potential suggested solutions, etc.) I will keep this list posted and
keep things open so anybody can have the opportunity to suggest ideas /
provide feedback / etc.
~m
9 years, 6 months
[Fwd: [Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!]
by Adam Williamson
It'd be great if folks could help out with the Beta RC1 testing. The
cloud images seem to be busted but everything else is available for
testing, and Dennis will look into the Cloud issues tomorrow. In the
meantime if people can help get the ARM and Workstation/KDE tests run
it'd be a big help.
You can use my silly relval tool -
https://www.happyassassin.net/wikitcms/ - as an alternative to editing
the wiki pages to report results, if you like. Set up the repo, install
relval, and run 'relval report-results --username=(fasname)'. You might
find it a bit easier/more efficient than editing the pages.
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net
9 years, 6 months
workstation marketing - hardware
by Máirín Duffy
Hi,
Quick question from the website dept. here -
We are thinking about having a nice high-quality photo of a laptop to
show the workstation desktop screenshot on for the website.
Do we have any preferences as to what model laptop we might want to
feature? If we did this, would we have to blur out / debrand the system?
Does anyone have thoughts on this kind of thing?
Thanks,
~m
9 years, 6 months
Report of F20 -> F21 package additions / removals
by Kalev Lember
Hi all,
In the last Workstation WG meeting I promised to do a report of package
changes compared to F20.
Here are the results, comparing:
Fedora-Live-Desktop-x86_64-20-1.iso
Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21_Beta-TC2.iso
Applications
============
Screenshots:
F20: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/applications-f20.png
F21, page 1: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/applications-f21-beta-tc2-page1.png
F21, page 1: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/applications-f21-beta-tc2-page2.png
Removed:
baobab.desktop
fedora-release-notes.desktop
firewall-config.desktop
Added:
bijiben.desktop
brasero.desktop
devassistant.desktop
eog.desktop
gnome-dictionary.desktop
org.gnome.Boxes.desktop
org.gnome.Logs.desktop
org.gnome.Maps.desktop
org.gnome.SoundRecorder.desktop
org.gnome.Weather.Application.desktop
simple-scan.desktop
transmission-gtk.desktop
Renamed:
cheese.desktop -> org.gnome.Cheese.desktop
file-roller.desktop -> org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop
gcalctool.desktop -> gnome-calculator.desktop
gedit.desktop -> org.gnome.gedit.desktop
gnome-clocks.desktop -> org.gnome.clocks.desktop
gnome-contacts.desktop -> org.gnome.Contacts.desktop
gnome-documents.desktop -> org.gnome.Documents.desktop
gnome-font-viewer.desktop -> org.gnome.font-viewer.desktop
gnome-screenshot.desktop -> org.gnome.Screenshot.desktop
gnome-software.desktop -> org.gnome.Software.desktop
nautilus.desktop -> org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop
totem.desktop -> org.gnome.Totem.desktop
Packages
========
Removed:
NetworkManager-l2tp
PackageKit-device-rebind
PackageKit-yum
PackageKit-yum-plugin
adwaita-cursor-theme
adwaita-gtk3-theme
aic94xx-firmware
alsa-firmware
alsa-tools-firmware
anaconda-yum-plugins
baobab
binutils
biosdevname
ceph-libs
cjkuni-uming-fonts
crash
cryptopp
ed
fedora-release-notes
firewall-config
foomatic-filters
freerdp-plugins
fxload
gdm-libs
geoclue
gfs2-utils
gnome-epub-thumbnailer
gnome-icon-theme
gnome-icon-theme-extras
gnome-icon-theme-legacy
gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
gnome-menus
gnome-settings-daemon-updates
gtk2-immodule-xim
gtk3-immodule-xim
heisenbug-backgrounds-base
heisenbug-backgrounds-gnome
irda-utils
irqbalance
ivtv-firmware
java-1.7.0-openjdk
java-1.7.0-openjdk-headless
jline
kernel-modules-extra
ldns
leveldb
libbsd
libgee06
libmash
libnl
libreswan
lohit-malayalam-fonts
lohit-oriya-fonts
lohit-punjabi-fonts
m17n-contrib
mutter-wayland
nhn-nanum-fonts-common
nhn-nanum-gothic-fonts
notify-python
paktype-naqsh-fonts
pinentry-gtk
python-cups
redhat-menus
reiserfs-utils
rhino
socat
sysvinit-tools
tmpwatch
totem-mozplugin
ttmkfdir
wqy-zenhei-fonts
xl2tpd
xorg-x11-drv-mga
xorg-x11-fonts-Type1
xorg-x11-glamor
xulrunner
Added:
NetworkManager-adsl
NetworkManager-bluetooth
NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora
NetworkManager-wifi
NetworkManager-wwan
PackageKit-cached-metadata
PyXB
PyYAML
SDL2
aajohan-comfortaa-fonts
abrt-addon-python3
abrt-cli
abrt-python3
abrt-tui
adobe-source-han-sans-cn-fonts
adobe-source-han-sans-twhk-fonts
adwaita-icon-theme
anaconda-core
anaconda-gui
anaconda-tui
appstream-data
apr
apr-util
augeas-libs
autogen-libopts
bijiben
bluez-libs
boost-iostreams
brasero
brasero-nautilus
cdparanoia
cdrdao
check
checkpolicy
corosync
corosynclib
createrepo_c
createrepo_c-libs
crypto-policies
cups-client
cyrus-sasl
desktop-backgrounds-basic
devassistant
dos2unix
dtc
dvd+rw-tools
efivar-libs
eog
epiphany-runtime
evolution-help
f21-backgrounds-base
f21-backgrounds-gnome
fedora-logos-httpd
fedora-release-workstation
fedora-repos
firebird-libfbembed
firewalld-config-workstation
foomatic
foomatic-db
foomatic-db-filesystem
foomatic-db-ppds
genisoimage
gfbgraph
git
glusterfs-fuse
gnome-boxes
gnome-classic-session
gnome-dictionary
gnome-logs
gnome-maps
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab
gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu
gnome-shell-extension-common
gnome-shell-extension-launch-new-instance
gnome-shell-extension-places-menu
gnome-shell-extension-window-list
gnome-sound-recorder
gnome-user-share
gnome-weather
gnu-free-fonts-common
gnu-free-mono-fonts
gnu-free-sans-fonts
gnu-free-serif-fonts
gnupg
gnutls-dane
gnutls-utils
gom
gtkspell3
gutenprint-libs
hpijs
hplip
httpd
httpd-filesystem
httpd-tools
ibus-typing-booster
icedax
ipxe-roms-qemu
iscsi-initiator-utils-iscsiuio
java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless
jimtcl
jwhois
kernel-core
kernel-modules
keybinder3
libGLEW
libabw
libappstream-glib
libatomic_ops
libbabeltrace
libburn
libdatrie
libe-book
libeot
libepoxy
libetonyek
libfdt
libfreehand
libgovirt
libgsystem
libhif
libibverbs
libidn2
libinput
libisofs
libmbim-utils
libmediaart
libmng
libnfsidmap
libphodav-1.0
libqb
libqmi-utils
librados2
librbd1
librdmacm
libreoffice-emailmerge
libreoffice-math
libreoffice-pyuno
libreport-python3
librevenge
libseccomp
libsmartcols
libsrtp
libtimezonemap
libtirpc
libtranslit
libtranslit-m17n
libusal
libusbmuxd
libvirt-client
libvirt-daemon
libvirt-daemon-config-network
libvirt-daemon-driver-interface
libvirt-daemon-driver-network
libvirt-daemon-driver-nodedev
libvirt-daemon-driver-nwfilter
libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu
libvirt-daemon-driver-secret
libvirt-daemon-driver-storage
libvirt-daemon-kvm
libvirt-gconfig
libvirt-glib
libvirt-gobject
libwinpr
libwsman1
libxkbcommon-x11
libxshmfence
libyaml
lohit-gurmukhi-fonts
lohit-odia-fonts
lzop
man-pages
mesa-libGLES
mesa-libGLU
mod_dnssd
mozjs24
mpage
mtr
naver-nanum-fonts-common
naver-nanum-gothic-fonts
netcf-libs
nfs-utils
numad
openjpeg2
paktype-naskh-basic-fonts
pam_krb5
perl
perl-Carp
perl-Data-Dumper
perl-Encode
perl-Error
perl-Exporter
perl-File-Path
perl-File-Temp
perl-Filter
perl-Getopt-Long
perl-Git
perl-HTTP-Tiny
perl-Module-CoreList
perl-PathTools
perl-Pod-Escapes
perl-Pod-Perldoc
perl-Pod-Simple
perl-Pod-Usage
perl-Scalar-List-Utils
perl-Socket
perl-Storable
perl-Term-ANSIColor
perl-TermReadKey
perl-Text-ParseWords
perl-Time-HiRes
perl-Time-Local
perl-constant
perl-libs
perl-macros
perl-parent
perl-podlators
perl-threads
perl-threads-shared
perl-version
pinentry-qt
pinfo
protobuf
protobuf-c
protobuf-compiler
python-PyGithub
python-augeas
python-babel
python-backports
python-backports-ssl_match_hostname
python-coverage
python-dmidecode
python-jinja2
python-markupsafe
python-meh-gui
python-pillow
python-progress
python-setuptools
python-xpyb
python3-cups
python3-dbus
python3-enchant
python3-pip
python3-pycurl
python3-setuptools
qemu-common
qemu-img
qemu-kvm
qemu-system-x86
qt
qt-settings
qt-x11
qt5-qtbase
qt5-qtbase-gui
qt5-qtdeclarative
qt5-qtxmlpatterns
quota
quota-nls
radvd
rpcbind
rpm-plugin-selinux
scl-utils
seabios-bin
seavgabios-bin
sgabios-bin
sheepdog
simple-scan
spice-server
sssd-libwbclient
stix-fonts
subunit
syslinux-extlinux-nonlinux
syslinux-nonlinux
systemd-compat-libs
systemd-python3
tcpdump
telnet
transmission-common
transmission-gtk
uboot-tools
vorbis-tools
vte-profile
vte291
webkitgtk4
wget
wodim
words
xcb-util-image
xcb-util-keysyms
xcb-util-renderutil
xcb-util-wm
xen-libs
xen-licenses
Of added packages, the following are leaf packages:
NetworkManager-adsl
NetworkManager-bluetooth
PackageKit-cached-metadata
aajohan-comfortaa-fonts
abrt-cli
adobe-source-han-sans-cn-fonts
adobe-source-han-sans-twhk-fonts
bijiben
brasero-nautilus
desktop-backgrounds-basic
devassistant
dos2unix
eog
evolution-help
foomatic
gnome-boxes
gnome-classic-session
gnome-dictionary
gnome-logs
gnome-maps
gnome-sound-recorder
gnome-user-share
gnome-weather
gnu-free-mono-fonts
gnu-free-sans-fonts
gnu-free-serif-fonts
hplip
ibus-typing-booster
jwhois
libreoffice-emailmerge
libreoffice-math
lohit-gurmukhi-fonts
lohit-odia-fonts
man-pages
mpage
mtr
naver-nanum-gothic-fonts
paktype-naskh-basic-fonts
pam_krb5
perl-macros
pinfo
qt5-qtdeclarative
scl-utils
simple-scan
sssd-libwbclient
stix-fonts
tcpdump
telnet
transmission-gtk
uboot-tools
words
--
Kalev
9 years, 6 months
Meeting Minutes for Workstation WG 2014-10-22 Meeting
by Josh Boyer
=======================================
#fedora-meeting: Workstation WG meeting
=======================================
Meeting started by jwb at 15:00:59 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-10-22/workstation.20...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* init (jwb, 15:00:59)
* Netinstall (jwb, 15:04:29)
* LINK: FESCo ticket on netinstall:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1358 (stickster, 15:09:02)
* LINK: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/netinstall1.png (kalev,
15:16:19)
* LINK: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/netinstall2.png (kalev,
15:16:20)
* LINK: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/netinstall3.png (kalev,
15:16:21)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1358 (jwb, 15:19:52)
* AGREED: Workstation is OK with netinstall defaulting to Server, but
asks FESCo to only ship a single netinstall and remove the
Workstation specific netinstall and install tree from F21. (jwb,
15:32:33)
* ACTION: kalev to follow up with FESCo (jwb, 15:33:07)
* Branding work (jwb, 15:33:19)
* Open WG seat (jwb, 15:52:36)
* open floor (jwb, 15:54:49)
* ACTION: jwb to send a whenisgood for the next meeting (jwb,
16:00:34)
* follow up on package adds/removals on-list in the meantime (jwb,
16:01:00)
Meeting ended at 16:01:09 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* kalev to follow up with FESCo
* jwb to send a whenisgood for the next meeting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jwb
* jwb to send a whenisgood for the next meeting
* kalev
* kalev to follow up with FESCo
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* kalev (39)
* ryanlerch (22)
* juhp_ (22)
* otaylor (14)
* drago01 (9)
* mclasen_ (8)
* sgallagh (8)
* cschalle (8)
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* jsmith (1)
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9 years, 6 months
systemd-networkd and network management plans
by Rahul Sundaram
Hi
For a long time, NetworkManager handled only wifi and simpler connection
needs and although it now has support for bridging, bonding etc, it seems
not integrated with GNOME very much.
Meanwhile, systemd-networkd handles a lot more of that but doesn't handle
wifi (yet?) and I am not sure what the plans are between NM and
systemd-networkd to avoid code duplication.
Do we still ship the older network scripts in Fedora workstation? What are
the plans to integrate systemd-networkd if any? What is the future of NM?
Rahul
9 years, 6 months
Meeting topics for tomorrow?
by Josh Boyer
Hi All,
I've been a bit busy the past week and haven't had a chance to track
down issues for the Workstation WG meeting tomorrow. Aside from
filling the vacant seat, what topics would people like to discuss?
josh
9 years, 6 months
