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F32, Automatic suspend isn't working.
by Chris Murphy 01 Nov '22

01 Nov '22

cross-posting test@ and desktop@ Fedora Workstation 32 (upgraded from f31) Laptop on battery power set aside, 12 hours later it's dead instead of sleeping. On F31 it reliably would sleep after 20 minutes. Sleep still happens when pressing the power button and closing the lid. It seems to be a GNOME automatic suspend timer problem. Using dconf editor, I changed the /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/sleep-inactive-battery-timeout Custom value 30 and the problem doesn't happen. Is there a way to increase debug messages somehow to find out whether this timeout is being reached? And what process or policy is causing it to be reset? With the available information I can't figure out what's preventing sleep. -- Chris Murphy

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Release criteria proposal: networking requirements
by Adam Williamson 01 Mar '22

01 Mar '22

Hi folks! So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in under other criteria, but for some issues that's really difficult, notably VPN issues. So, we agreed we should draft some explicit networking criteria. This turns out to be a big area and quite hard to cover (who'd've thought!), but here is at least a first draft for us to start from. My proposal would be to add this to the Basic criteria. I have left out some wikitext stuff from the proposal for clarity; I'd add it back in on actually applying the proposed changes. It's just formatting stuff, nothing that'd change the meaning. Anyone have thoughts, complaints, alternative approaches, supplements? Thanks! === Network requirements === Each of these requirements apply to both installer and installed system environments. For any given installer environment, the 'default network configuration tools' are considered to be those the installer documents as supported ways to configure networking (e.g. for anaconda-based environments, configuration via kernel command line options, a kickstart, or interactively in anaconda itself are included). ==== Basic networking ==== It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must work well enough to allow typical network connection configuration operations without major workarounds. Standard network functions such as address resolution and connections with common protocols such as ping, HTTP and ssh must work as expected. Footnote titled "Supported hardware": Supported network hardware is hardware for which the Fedora kernel includes drivers and, where necessary, for which a firmware package is available. If support for a commonly-used piece or type of network hardware that would usually be present is omitted, that may constitute a violation of this criterion, after consideration of the [[Blocker_Bug_FAQ|hardware-dependent- issues|normal factors for hardware-dependent issues]]. Similarly, violations of this criteria that are hardware or configuration dependent are, as usual, subject to consideration of those factors when determining whether they are release-blocking ==== VPN connections ==== Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops, it must be possible to establish a working connection to common OpenVPN, openconnect-supported and vpnc-supported VNC servers with typical configurations. Footnote title "Supported servers and configurations": As there are many different VPN server applications and configurations, blocker reviewers must use their best judgment in determining whether violations of this criterion are likely to be encountered commonly enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more likely it is to be a blocker. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora selected as Best Desktop Linux distro of 2020 by Linux Unplugged listeners
by Matthew Miller 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Podcast here: https://linuxunplugged.com/385?t=3490 Congratulations to everyone who helps make Fedora awesome, and particularly to all of you working on the desktop. Here's to an even better 2021! -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2020-12-29 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9883/

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How to hold-as-right-click with a stylus on GNOME Shell?
by Luya Tshimbalanga 23 Dec '20

23 Dec '20

Hello team, I attempt to use *hold*-as-*right*-*click *with a styluson GNOME Wayland session but nothing happens. Does anyone using a convertible laptop run a similar issue? Tested on HP Envy x360 15 Ryzen 5 2500u. Thanks. ** -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team Fedora Design Suite maintainer

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socializing upcoming GNOME UI changes?
by Matthew Miller 23 Dec '20

23 Dec '20

Looks like GNOME 40 won't be just another number — there's a significant update to the Overview, with in particular workspaces moved from vertical to horizontal. And it looks like the dash goes at the bottom now? The changes look well-thought through and sensible, but it's also the most significant change to the GNOME 3 UI in a long time. The GNOME blog here https://blogs.gnome.org/shell-dev/ is a good start, but I think we should plan to have some Fedora Magazine articles about this as well. Also, is there an extension which brings back the old layout for people who want to stay the way it is? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2020-12-15
by Chris Murphy 16 Dec '20

16 Dec '20

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-12-15) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 01:52:40 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-12-17/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 01:53:00) * present: chris, tomas, michael, matthias, allan, jens, neal, kalev, owen (cmurf, 01:53:02) * regrets: langdon (cmurf, 01:53:04) * present guests: michel salim (cmurf, 01:53:06) * Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (cmurf, 01:53:08) * Potential issue with Hidden GRUB menu + boot on btrfs (cmurf, 01:53:16) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/206 (cmurf, 01:53:18) * Neal sent PR for pipewire pulse* (cmurf, 01:53:20) * Swap out Cheese for a more generic Camera app (cmurf, 01:53:22) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/166 (cmurf, 01:53:24) * totem might move to gtk4 (cmurf, 01:53:26) * first step would be to get gnome-camera and libaperture into Fedora (cmurf, 01:53:28) * Make use of malcontent in the default install? (cmurf, 01:53:30) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/186 (cmurf, 01:53:32) * AGREED: enable in rawhide (cmurf, 01:53:40) * ACTION: kalev will enable it (cmurf, 01:53:42) * Improve the user feedback for OOM situations (cmurf, 01:53:44) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202 (cmurf, 01:53:46) * ACTION: michel salim to work on a change proposal (cmurf, 01:54:04) * ACTION: chris to reach out to ben, lennart, bastien (cmurf, 01:54:06) * Approval of 08 Dec minutes (cmurf, 01:54:08) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-12-09/workstation.2… (cmurf, 01:54:10) * AGREED: no objections (cmurf, 01:54:12) * Open Floor (cmurf, 01:54:14) * Fedora moving to matrix; offering a native Matrix client (cmurf, 01:54:20) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/207 (cmurf, 01:54:22) Meeting ended at 01:55:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kalev will enable it * michel salim to work on a change proposal * chris to reach out to ben, lennart, bastien Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * kalev will enable it * michel salim to work on a change proposal * chris to reach out to ben, lennart, bastien People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (49) * zodbot (7) * mcatanzaro (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Workstation WG meetings holiday schedule
by Michael Catanzaro 15 Dec '20

15 Dec '20

Hi, The Workstation Working Group will no meet on Tuesday, December 22 or Tuesday, December 29 due to winter holidays. I will try to turn off calendar reminders for these dates, but if you receive a reminder, it should be ignored. Our next meeting will be Tuesday, January 5. Michael

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2012-12-15 Meeting Agenda (secretary: Jens)
by Michael Catanzaro 14 Dec '20

14 Dec '20

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2020-12-012 9:30 am EST 14:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of 08 Dec minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-12-09/workstation.2… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Swap out Cheese for a more generic Camera app https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/166 Make use of malcontent in the default install? https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/186 Improve the user feedback for OOM situations https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 14 Dec '20

14 Dec '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2020-12-15 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9652/

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