On 03/12/2013 07:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
I am saying this because I agree. To me the proposal (not the
original
but some point in the the 500 ms boot time "ideal" ) seemed very much
a welded shut view. And as someone who has to worked on welded shut
computers for asthetic reasons.. it brings out the fighting urge in
me.
Did you guys actually read the blog post? Is aesthetics cited in any of
the reasons for hiding the menu? No, it's not. These were the reasons I
cited in favor of the proposal to hide the menu:
"- Changing video modes makes the screen flash unnecessarily. Not
displaying the boot menu by default would eliminate some of this
flashing. The video mode changing also screws up how our X setup works
and results in unnecessary bugs for users.
- We used to suppress the boot menu by default in earlier releases and
its suppression didn’t cause major problems.
- There’s other ways for the user to indicate wanting to enter the menu
besides boot-time keypresses – other OSes have methods to enter these
menus by rebooting from a running system (systemd is working on this) or
automatically loading the menu when an error condition is encountered.
- Not listening for keypresses doesn’t probe USB, meaning not waiting
for keypresses will make boot even faster since we won’t have to
load/probe USB.
- (Nobody explicitly stated this, but) Displaying information geared
towards power users by default is intimidating / confusing to
less-knowledgeable users."
Please be fair.
~m