9:15 a.m.
The appearance menu item has disappeared from the menu panel. Now there
are individual items for a few things that used to be in appearance.
Is this intentional behavior? If so, what is the new recommended way to
change themes?
8:01 p.m.
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 10:15 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
The appearance menu item has disappeared from the menu panel. Now
there
are individual items for a few things that used to be in appearance.
Is this intentional behavior?
Yes.
If so, what is the new recommended way to
change themes?
The recommended way is not to, and use the nice new themes we're
preparing for GNOME 3. If you really want to tweak, gsettings on the
command-line for now. There's supposed to be a tweak panel coming at
some point.
12:14 a.m.
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 02:01 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> If so, what is the new recommended way to
> change themes?
The recommended way is not to, and use the nice new themes we're
preparing for GNOME 3. If you really want to tweak, gsettings on the
command-line for now. There's supposed to be a tweak panel coming at
some point.
on a pragmatic level, I think we're *really* going to want to have some
sort of tweak mechanism available in F15 (assuming we do wind up
shipping Shell in it). Otherwise the masses are sure going to be
revolting. I like using default themes, but when I tell people this they
usually seem to look at me as if I've grown an extra head.
(I'm not entirely sure it's even theoretically possible to settle the
great 'Aw3som3 Killer Dark Theme' vs 'Cool Mac-Like Light Theme' debate
with a one-size-fits-all default, either. If some kind of color
customization of the default theme is available that'd probably be
enough; mostly people seem to equate 'theme' with 'color', in my
experience.)
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1:41 a.m.
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 02:01:41 +0000,
Bastien Nocera <bnocera(a)redhat.com> wrote:
The recommended way is not to, and use the nice new themes we're
preparing for GNOME 3. If you really want to tweak, gsettings on the
command-line for now. There's supposed to be a tweak panel coming at
some point.
OK. I am not likely to want to use gnome 3 over metacity unless I can have
lots of workspaces. Last time I checked this was hard to do in compiz,
which is why I am not using that.
I like the echo icons, so I usually use the normal Fedora theme (with a manual
change to clearlooks to work around a bug) with the icons changed to echo and
a background image set.
6:24 a.m.
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 22:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 02:01 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > If so, what is the new recommended way to
> > change themes?
>
> The recommended way is not to, and use the nice new themes we're
> preparing for GNOME 3. If you really want to tweak, gsettings on the
> command-line for now. There's supposed to be a tweak panel coming at
> some point.
on a pragmatic level, I think we're *really* going to want to have some
sort of tweak mechanism available in F15 (assuming we do wind up
shipping Shell in it). Otherwise the masses are sure going to be
revolting. I like using default themes, but when I tell people this they
usually seem to look at me as if I've grown an extra head.
(I'm not entirely sure it's even theoretically possible to settle the
great 'Aw3som3 Killer Dark Theme' vs 'Cool Mac-Like Light Theme' debate
with a one-size-fits-all default, either. If some kind of color
customization of the default theme is available that'd probably be
enough; mostly people seem to equate 'theme' with 'color', in my
experience.)
There's nothing stopping the tweakers from getting started on writing
the plumbing app. There's a mockup here:
http://www.hadess.net/2010/02/were-removing-settings-again.html
And gnome-control-center has plenty of examples of how to write panels.
Somebody just needs to get started with it.
Note that this wouldn't go in gnome-control-center itself.
7:34 a.m.
Hi Bastien,
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 12:24 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
There's nothing stopping the tweakers from getting started on
writing
the plumbing app. There's a mockup here:
http://www.hadess.net/2010/02/were-removing-settings-again.html
And gnome-control-center has plenty of examples of how to write panels.
Somebody just needs to get started with it.
Note that this wouldn't go in gnome-control-center itself.
Doesn't that blog post say it will or am I misunderstanding?
Is Vincent still interested in writing it or is no one working on it?
~m
8:06 a.m.
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:34 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Hi Bastien,
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 12:24 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> There's nothing stopping the tweakers from getting started on writing
> the plumbing app. There's a mockup here:
> http://www.hadess.net/2010/02/were-removing-settings-again.html
>
> And gnome-control-center has plenty of examples of how to write panels.
> Somebody just needs to get started with it.
>
> Note that this wouldn't go in gnome-control-center itself.
Doesn't that blog post say it will or am I misunderstanding?
Misunderstanding. It will be a control-center panel, but it won't ship
with the control-center package itself.
Is Vincent still interested in writing it or is no one working on it?
That's what was mentioned at the time, but he still hasn't started
working on it. I believe that people at the "Munich hackfest" will be
starting work on it though.
Cheers
8:11 a.m.
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 14:06 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:34 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Doesn't that blog post say it will or am I misunderstanding?
Misunderstanding. It will be a control-center panel, but it won't ship
with the control-center package itself.
> Is Vincent still interested in writing it or is no one working on it?
That's what was mentioned at the time, but he still hasn't started
working on it. I believe that people at the "Munich hackfest" will be
starting work on it though.
Awesome, thanks for the info (and responding so quickly)!
~m
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