On Mon, Jan 4, 2016, 4:13 PM Richard Turner <rjt(a)zygous.co.uk> wrote:
On 4 Jan 2016 8:51 p.m., "Liam"
<liam.bulkley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd expect most users wouldn't use GNOME Photos/Music/Contacts/Maps, but
without metrics we're only speculating.
> Speaking of, usage stats would be really helpful in making these
decisions. Obviously this would all be opt in, but it's better guide than
nothing.
>>
For what it's worth, I don't use any of those apps. I do use the boring
ones that no one seems interested in maintaining or promoting though, like
Evolution and Empathy. Mine genuinely is a "work" station, where I need
email filtering and corporate XMPP and shared calendar support and could
hardly care less about video and music codecs, browsing photos or perusing
a map.
I think it's a shame that Empathy is in a state of neglect and that
there's no decent alternative. For home users it's probably totally
unimportant, but IM does still have a place at work. I'll just install it
myself if it's not installed by default though.
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Well, as nearly always, these discussions come down to the question of "Who
is our audience?"
We have this tension in the prd which, i think, really needs to be
resolved: consumers or producers. Given the resources available (which Alex
brings up), I think one of those groups needs to be removed from the prd,
or a STRONG hierarchical status be provided (my preference would be for
removal since I can well imagine the many debates happening over
removal/inclusion of certain features/apps/defaults/etc).
My opinion hasn't really changed in this area, and, I think, should be
better supported now than ever: a desktop directed at the consumer is a
product with a (very)quickly shrinking audience. Additionally, there are
legal/ethical hurdles we can't overcome (mostly codecs, but I'm aware of
the ongoing efforts towards some possible solution in this area). However,
even with that in mind, there are other, practical issues, but I'm not
going to go into this any further.
For my part, I don't use evolution (gmail is enough for me), or any of the
maps I mentioned. I've basically got three apps open all time ( term,
browser, editor). I'd imagine that's a pretty typical combination for the
people who actually use Fedora Workstation (modulo email/Skype/etc).
Best/Liam