Re: 3rd Party software submission

[Christian Fredrik Schaller]

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 12:47:50 -0400, Christian Fredrik Schaller
> wrote:
>  > Well the current enablement of 3rd party software is meant to include
>  stuff in
>  > that regards and I think the revised text that was worked on with among
>  others
>  > Matthew Miller tried to come up with something better than the current
>  > screenshots.
>
>  What screenshots are you referring to here?
>  
There has been screenshots of this functionality shown here and in other
forums
where this has been discussed, I don't have a link at hand atm. but I will
check with
Kalev where I can find the latest screenshots and update with a link.

>  > Also in the GNOME software the licensing field do put the work
>  > Proprietary in a bright red colour box which to me signals 'warning'
>  since red
>  > usually is used as the colour of negative alerts. So I do think we are
>  covering
>  > this and I think that is good,
>
>  No, see, it isn't good enough.
>
>  What does the word "proprietary" mean to an end user that is targeted
>  here---one that is not necessarily part of the Open source eco system
>  and has no context?
>
>  What does it say about Free Software, and its importance?
>
>  What does it say about how and why the Fedora community has made a
>  commitment to this movement?
>
>  Nothing at all. So, no, the "proprietary" label is not enough. 
That label is there AFTER you have been pushed through the gated enable 3rd
party software
setup, which is mean to include in dept information about free software and
Fedora's mission.
So my point was that even after you been educated on the issue through that
gating process
there is some subliminal messaging around it.

>  > but we should be careful not to get to the stage
>  > where installing Chrome comes with a blinking warning saying 'You can
>  install
>  > this, but be aware that we morally judge your for it' :)
>
>  I won't reply to this hyperbolic comment. What I will do, is quote the
>  "Freedom" foundation from here instead:
>  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/project/fedora-overview.html
>
>
>  <snip> 
What I meant with my comment was that we want this to be a positive
push
for free software alternatives,
not a 'your an asshole for using non-free software' because that detracts
from the goal of promoting free software.


>  So, how is this new feature is coherent with this in its current form?
>
>  What do the other community members think please?
>
>  --
>  Thanks,
>  Regards,
>
>  Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
>