On 11/06/2014 04:18 PM, Elad Alfassa wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Liam <liam.bulkley(a)gmail.com
<mailto:liam.bulkley@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Nov 6, 2014 2:45 PM, "Ryan Lerch" <rlerch(a)redhat.com
<mailto:rlerch@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> On 11/06/2014 02:36 PM, Anibal Gomez wrote:
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>> Yumex is great package manager
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> $ sudo yum install yumex
>>
>> Regards!
>>
>>
balerocms.com <
http://balerocms.com>
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> Hi Anibal!
>
> Thanks for the suggestion!
>
> However, The currently of the Workstation is focusing more on
the Software application for installing new software. While it is
not a graphical package manager (it only searches and installs
applications that have .desktop files) the concept is that the
average user of Fedora should be able to find and install all the
applications they require for the workstation it, and if they
require lower level packages and services, using yum (and soon the
yum replacement, DNF), via the command line is IMO the recommended
default way.
>
Given our target audience, why not just present everything in
Software? Is there some user testing data of our audience that has
shown an alarming amount of confusion regarding GUI driven
installation of, for instance, libraries?
Imho, as long as it's clear what is a GUI program and what isn't,
I think it far better to have one officially supported way of
installing software than the frustration of searching for some
utility in Software and not finding it.
Personally, I just never touch Software. Not b/c I have anything
against GUI software management but b/c I
don't want to be forced to wonder "is this $package going to show
up in Software?"
Best/Liam
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Software is not about "packages". it's about applications.
Liam, I understand your frustration in searching for things in software
and not being able to find them. Just out of interest, what kinds of
packages were you searching for? Command line applications like mutt or
vim? Or command line tools like git, etc? Or low level packages like
kernel and other libraries?
The line was drawn in Software to define an "Application" as something
that has a desktop file -- aka a GUI application. Although you could
argue that mutt, vim, git etc are applications also but users are going
to use them on a command line, so i think the assumption that was made
was that those users would be comfortable using the command line to
install them.
One thing that Software does add to the experience for GUI applications
is the ability to browse and search all the different kinds of
applications, see screenshots and more detailed descriptions. In my
software installation workflow, if i am looking for a graphical
application to solve my problem, i search Software (now too with the
search provider, it appears in the Overview when searching there), and
if i need a command line anything -- i go to the commandline and search
the repos using DNF.
cheers,
ryanlerh