fedora.next workstation "stable"

[Jorick Astrego]

Hi,

After listening to the Fedora.Next discussion @ FOSDEM2014 I have been
looking forward to a more stable Fedora workstation that we can actually
use reliably.

I've read up about it and it would be nice to have working development
tools but one of the things I haven't heard people talking about is how
Fedora.next will enable people to actually use it for work.

Currently I have been bit by removal of the bluetooth HSP/HFP Profile
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1045548). I just purchased
all new plantronics headsets for our developers that used to work
perfectly in Fedora 18 and now I can just throw them away.

Answers like these make me wonder if running Fedora will be sustainable,
we have to work on these systems and if I have to dual boot Windows to
make a skype call; it would be better to run ubuntu. 



        From: Adam Williamson <awilliam <at> redhat.com>
        Subject: Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20
        Newsgroups: gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel
        Date: 2014-01-23 23:16:09 GMT (10 weeks, 3 days, 10 hours and 37
        minutes ago)
        
        
        On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:56 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
        
>  > As a side note, it also needs to be discussed how such a key
> feature of
>  > the bluetooth stack could go unnoticed through QA, and how to avoid this
>  > from happening again.
>  
>  Indeed.  I wondered the same myself. 
        
        I'm somewhat cheered that our product has apparently reached the quality
        level where people consider a Bluetooth audio profile to be a 'key
        feature', but so far as our QA standards are concerned, it ain't.
        
        This didn't really 'pass unnoticed' through QA. I noticed it, and was
        supremely unconcerned. Yes, if you depend on this specific feature it
        sucks, but it's hardly unusual for some specific feature of something or
        other to break between Fedora releases. It's a thing that happens, and
        as I'm on record as arguing in more extensive and generic terms, the
        nature of Fedora as a project would need to change quite a lot before we
        decided we were a project where stuff like this didn't sometimes break.
        -- 
        Adam Williamson
        Fedora QA Community Monkey
        

I don't want to be bashing anyone and we would like to help out with Fedora
workstation testing things through. But is there any point in investing a lot of time when
the QA people don't care about an OS that you can actually use.

Kind regards,

Jorick Astrego