WG meeting call for agenda Mon 2017-Mar-13

[Paul W. Frields]

If you have additions or corrections for this agenda, please send by
the end of this weekend.  Our meeting will be held as usual on Monday,
2017-March-13 at 1400 UTC (09:00 US Eastern).

* Workstation Branding -- need to pull this back on traack (stickster,
  mclasen) (will limit to 15 min!)

* Atomic Host based Workstation next steps to align better with
  Colin's ostree work

I didn't add the hexchat question here -- it seems like WG members are
well aligned that shipping xchat in the Workstation makes less sense
now.  Whether that means retirement or something else is not vital for
us to settle in a meeting.


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[Michael Catanzaro]

On Thu, 2017-03-09 at 15:38 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  I didn't add the hexchat question here -- it seems like WG
> members
>  are
>  well aligned that shipping xchat in the Workstation makes less sense
>  now.  Whether that means retirement or something else is not vital
>  for
>  us to settle in a meeting. 
So to be clear, xchat is not installed by default... it's just some
extra app that you can install via GNOME Software, like any other app.
Hence I don't think we need to consider the issue at all.

Michael

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 03:38:29PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  * Atomic Host based Workstation next steps to align better with
>    Colin's ostree work 
The current plan is to build Atomic Host from Base Runtime plus an
Atomic module. It would be nice for Atomic Workstation to be built from
Base Runtime + Atomic + Workstation modules.

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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
Fedora Project Leader

[Colin Walters]

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 03:38:29PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  > * Atomic Host based Workstation next steps to align better with
>  >   Colin's ostree work
>  
>  The current plan is to build Atomic Host from Base Runtime plus an
>  Atomic module. It would be nice for Atomic Workstation to be built from
>  Base Runtime + Atomic + Workstation modules. 
The term "module" here means yum/rpm-md repo right?   In that case, sure.
But I think "AtomicWS"  shouldn't be considered derived at a binary or
specification (i.e. rpm-ostree treefile)
level from Atomic Host because  the latter contains a bunch of server stuff
such as ceph that doesn't make sense to be installed by default.
(Well, except for the fact that libvirt currently drags in the entire world of storage)
Another case is we're carrying duplicated etcd/kubernetes
that won't be useful with `oc cluster up`.

[Cole Robinson]

On 03/10/2017 11:01 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
>  On Fri, Mar 10, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 03:38:29PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >> * Atomic Host based Workstation next steps to align better with
> >>   Colin's ostree work
> >
> > The current plan is to build Atomic Host from Base Runtime plus an
> > Atomic module. It would be nice for Atomic Workstation to be built from
> > Base Runtime + Atomic + Workstation modules.
>  
>  The term "module" here means yum/rpm-md repo right?   In that case, sure.
>  But I think "AtomicWS"  shouldn't be considered derived at a binary or
> specification (i.e. rpm-ostree treefile)
>  level from Atomic Host because  the latter contains a bunch of server stuff
>  such as ceph that doesn't make sense to be installed by default. 
Just a note, rawhide libvirt converted its storage drivers to dlopen'able
modules with RPM packaging to match, so libvirt doesn't have to pull in the
storage world anymore.

- Cole