patch, manifest changes

[Bill Nottingham]

I've been playing to see how much more we can fit on the live
CD for test 2.

First, I eliminated docs from the livecd with a patch to
livecd-creator (attached).

Then, I started adding and removing things. Based on Jeremy's
test1 configs at  http://people.redhat.com/katzj/f7live/, I
made the following changes:

Added
-----
attr
bind-utils
gnome-screensaver
pcmciautils
termcap
crontabs
ppp
rp-pppoe
wvdial
logrotate
mdadm
smolt
nfs-utils
readahead
rhgb
gok
gnome-backgrounds
gnome-audio
nautilus-sendto
nautilus-sendto-bluetooth
monkey-bubble
gnome-blog

Removed
-------
emacs
xchat-gnome

This yields a 678MB Live CD, so we've still got a decent
amount of room for changes.

(SRPM for fedora-livecd attached)

Bill

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[Jeremy Katz]

On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 13:46 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>  I've been playing to see how much more we can fit on the live
>  CD for test 2. 
Always the fun part (or not)

>  First, I eliminated docs from the livecd with a patch to
>  livecd-creator (attached). 
Hmm... I'm not sure if we really want to do this unconditionally.  And
given that we later can install from the live CD, is removing the docs
something we really want to do?  

>  Then, I started adding and removing things. Based on Jeremy's
>  test1 configs at  http://people.redhat.com/katzj/f7live/, I
>  made the following changes: 
Those bits are now at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/live/f7test1/ but a
symlink points there.  I've put up what I've used for a proto-test2 live
CD at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/live/f7test2pre (and I'll try and
keep that current)

>  Added
>  -----
>  attr
>  bind-utils
>  gnome-screensaver
>  pcmciautils
>  termcap
>  crontabs
>  ppp
>  rp-pppoe
>  wvdial
>  logrotate
>  mdadm
>  smolt
>  nfs-utils
>  readahead 
These are all in my list

>  rhgb 
Not added because it's incredibly painful for a live CD right now...
and I keep hoping that we're going to get to kill rhgb before F7.
Although the chances of that seem to be dwindling :(

>  gok
>  gnome-backgrounds
>  gnome-audio
>  nautilus-sendto
>  nautilus-sendto-bluetooth
>  monkey-bubble
>  gnome-blog 
Didn't add any of these and I'm at ~ 15 megs to spare.  So some could
be, but probably not all of them without the --nodocs bits

>  Removed
>  -------
>  emacs
>  xchat-gnome 
I took out xchat-gnome, emacs is still there.  It's probably worth
killing for some subset of the above too.

Jeremy

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[Matthias Clasen]

It would be nicer if we could find somebody to cut down some overgrown
packages, e.g. perform voicectomy on festival

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[Bill Nottingham]

Jeremy Katz (katzj(a)redhat.com) said: 
>  > First, I eliminated docs from the livecd with a patch to
>  > livecd-creator (attached).
>  
>  Hmm... I'm not sure if we really want to do this unconditionally.  And
>  given that we later can install from the live CD, is removing the docs
>  something we really want to do?   
It's stuff in /usr/share/doc and info pages. Are either of those
appropriate for a *Desktop* livecd?

>  Those bits are now at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/live/f7test1/
> but a
>  symlink points there.  I've put up what I've used for a proto-test2 live
>  CD at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/live/f7test2pre (and I'll try and
>  keep that current) 
OK, will look at what I have and rediff.

>  > gok
>  > gnome-backgrounds
>  > gnome-audio
>  > nautilus-sendto
>  > nautilus-sendto-bluetooth
>  > monkey-bubble
>  > gnome-blog
>  
>  Didn't add any of these and I'm at ~ 15 megs to spare.  So some could
>  be, but probably not all of them without the --nodocs bits 
So, somehow this spin is now averaging between 706MB and 714MB
on my trials - it *shouldn't* be that big. Will do more investigating.

Bill

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[Bill Nottingham]

Bill Nottingham (notting(a)redhat.com) said: 
>  > Didn't add any of these and I'm at ~ 15 megs to spare. 
> So some could
>  > be, but probably not all of them without the --nodocs bits
>  
>  So, somehow this spin is now averaging between 706MB and 714MB
>  on my trials - it *shouldn't* be that big. Will do more investigating. 
This is because of gok -> gnome-speech -> festival.

I built with the attached diff, and got 681MB, so we've still got
some wiggle room.

Bill

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[Jonathan Blandford]

On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 14:43 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:

>  Not added because it's incredibly painful for a live CD right
> now...
>  and I keep hoping that we're going to get to kill rhgb before F7.
>  Although the chances of that seem to be dwindling :( 
We looked at doing so, but decided we weren't going to do significantly
better until we got modesetting in the kernel.  Looks like an F8 task at
the earliest.

Thanks,
-Jonathan