== Photos == Mo is amazing and got really creative photos for the book at FUDConF11. They're currently on her Flickr page[1] and we'll be eventually moving them into our wiki-based system of checking what photos we actually can/want to use (more on that later).
[1]: http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/sets/72157612400838690/
== Getting the photos on the wiki == I'm working on this process. I'll propose a spec, and comments can be traded around.
== Paperback/hardcover/color/black and white/blah == It would be awesome if someone could call LSI and ask if it's possible to get hardcover books with color pages. The PDFs I have say that it's not.
== Change of plans == Instead of doing 4 books to start with, we can plan for 4 books, but produce one at a time. Attempting to get all four books done at the same time is... probably very complicated.
== Release forms == Spot got me temporary release forms to use for this weekend, but for any other photos we will need a more generic release form that I'm being told RH Legal is working on. In the meantime, come up with great ideas ^_^
We will need hard copies of release forms so more than likely people will need to mail forms to a localish Red Hat office so that can go to whoever we appoint. More information on that when we get the release forms done.
Ian Weller wrote:
== Release forms == Spot got me temporary release forms to use for this weekend, but for any other photos we will need a more generic release form that I'm being told RH Legal is working on. In the meantime, come up with great ideas ^_^
About signing the release forms, what if we have a cool photo made previously and no chance to meet in person with the subject again very soon? I think it should be OK to ask him to sign and fax the form, I see this used very often in business. Also, how about scanning and sending a scan of the signed form?
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:06:38AM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
About signing the release forms, what if we have a cool photo made previously and no chance to meet in person with the subject again very soon? I think it should be OK to ask him to sign and fax the form, I see this used very often in business. Also, how about scanning and sending a scan of the signed form?
This seems like the sane way to go but spot wanted me to have original copies, AFAICT. I'll point him to this message though.
Ian Weller wrote:
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:06:38AM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
About signing the release forms, what if we have a cool photo made previously and no chance to meet in person with the subject again very soon? I think it should be OK to ask him to sign and fax the form, I see this used very often in business. Also, how about scanning and sending a scan of the signed form?
This seems like the sane way to go but spot wanted me to have original copies, AFAICT. I'll point him to this message though.
Faxed/scanned forms would allow to use photos from past event, like FUDCons from 2008 and this way we can kickstart the book with a large amount of already existing materials. Back when I contributed to Red Hat Magazine, it was enough to send by fax a signed contract, so I expect the policy inside Red Hat to be consistent.
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 16:20 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Ian Weller wrote:
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:06:38AM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
About signing the release forms, what if we have a cool photo made previously and no chance to meet in person with the subject again very soon? I think it should be OK to ask him to sign and fax the form, I see this used very often in business. Also, how about scanning and sending a scan of the signed form?
This seems like the sane way to go but spot wanted me to have original copies, AFAICT. I'll point him to this message though.
Faxed/scanned forms would allow to use photos from past event, like FUDCons from 2008 and this way we can kickstart the book with a large amount of already existing materials. Back when I contributed to Red Hat Magazine, it was enough to send by fax a signed contract, so I expect the policy inside Red Hat to be consistent.
Lawyers have changed a few times recently. The short answer is that you cannot use that form for anything aside from FUDCon. No scanning, no faxing, nothing.
RH Legal is working on a digital form that works for our photobook needs. As soon as that shows up, I'll pass it along.
Thanks,
~spot
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Ian Weller wrote:
== Photos == Mo is amazing and got really creative photos for the book at FUDConF11. They're currently on her Flickr page[1] and we'll be eventually moving them into our wiki-based system of checking what photos we actually can/want to use (more on that later).
Sorry if I missed this in earlier emails. What's the plan for pictures for people who weren't at FUDCon? Using pictures from other Fedora events that they were at?
--Max
Max Spevack wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Ian Weller wrote:
== Photos == Mo is amazing and got really creative photos for the book at FUDConF11. They're currently on her Flickr page[1] and we'll be eventually moving them into our wiki-based system of checking what photos we actually can/want to use (more on that later).
Sorry if I missed this in earlier emails. What's the plan for pictures for people who weren't at FUDCon? Using pictures from other Fedora events that they were at?
That is a tricky question and something I am also interested in (I sit on a ton of photos from Brno): we have the legal problem of needing release forms signed by the people in picture. At the Boston FUDCon they had a form which was good only then. We wait for Red Hat legal to come with another form with a wider applicability.
For photos made at past events, we have to track the subjects and make them sign the papers. So far is not clear if faxed/scanned signed papers are enough or we have to take the extra trouble of sending originals.
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Nicu Buculei wrote:
That is a tricky question and something I am also interested in (I sit on a ton of photos from Brno): we have the legal problem of needing release forms signed by the people in picture. At the Boston FUDCon they had a form which was good only then. We wait for Red Hat legal to come with another form with a wider applicability.
For photos made at past events, we have to track the subjects and make them sign the papers. So far is not clear if faxed/scanned signed papers are enough or we have to take the extra trouble of sending originals.
I'm specifically thinking of the tons of great pictures we have from FUDCon Brno, and the pictures that we'll get at FOSDEM.
--Max
Max Spevack wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Nicu Buculei wrote:
That is a tricky question and something I am also interested in (I sit on a ton of photos from Brno): we have the legal problem of needing release forms signed by the people in picture. At the Boston FUDCon they had a form which was good only then. We wait for Red Hat legal to come with another form with a wider applicability.
For photos made at past events, we have to track the subjects and make them sign the papers. So far is not clear if faxed/scanned signed papers are enough or we have to take the extra trouble of sending originals.
I'm specifically thinking of the tons of great pictures we have from FUDCon Brno, and the pictures that we'll get at FOSDEM.
Then be sure Red Hat legal will give us a release form which we can use retroactively and allow us to get somehow signatures (over the internet would be ideal)... it is out of our hands at this point and is all about "intellectual property".
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 03:51:37PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Max Spevack wrote:
I'm specifically thinking of the tons of great pictures we have from FUDCon Brno, and the pictures that we'll get at FOSDEM.
Then be sure Red Hat legal will give us a release form which we can use retroactively and allow us to get somehow signatures (over the internet would be ideal)... it is out of our hands at this point and is all about "intellectual property".
Talked to spot, he said the new release form can be transmitted in any way (mail, fax, scan/email).
Once we actually have it, we'll get this process going. In the meantime, I'm still going to have fun trying to figure out how to organize this all on the wiki.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 03:37:09PM -0600, Ian Weller wrote:
Talked to spot, he said the new release form can be transmitted in any way (mail, fax, scan/email).
Once we actually have it, we'll get this process going. In the meantime, I'm still going to have fun trying to figure out how to organize this all on the wiki.
Or maybe I ought to refer to what spot actually wrote. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2009-January/msg00058.h...
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