I came across your short review of Fedora 10 at
Thank for your review. I would like to add some comments to provide more
information and correct a few inaccuracies in your article.
You claim that the installation is almost exactly same as Fedora 8.
Apart from resizing support you have noted, it seems that you have
missed out a number of other changes. These are covered in
"Well, Fedora/RedHat has always been very picky about letting in
software that might be "tainted", so there's no way that the resize code
will work on NTFS filesystems."
This is incorrect. As noted, in your review, your are commenting about
something without even trying it. Fedora has included comprehensive NTFS
support for quite a few releases now and has also supported resizing
Windows partitions from Fedora 9 onwards.
"Whoa! The new "Plymouth" loader is fast! You won't get much in the way
of fancy graphics during bootup unless you have a video chipset that is
supported with "kernel mode" (currently only some Intel chipsets)."
This is only partially correct. Plymouth relies on kernel mode setting
support but that is available only for ATI cards and not for Intel ones.
Intel was supported in between but there is a rewrite going on in
upstream and is still disabled in the general release. You can however
get fancy graphics by using vga=0x318 or vga=ask and choosing a
appropriate mode which would make Plymouth use framebuffer instead of
KMS to display a very cool bootup screen.
There is a rewrite of GDM and currently.
it just inherits the system settings and does not have separate theming
support. The roadmap for changes is at
For the Xorg autoconfiguration, we don't need to fallback into manual
settings again but instead add the specific hardware information to a
database and use that for automatically doing the right thing even if
the hardware is old or using analog connections as yours does. Please
file a bug report in http://bugzilla.redhat.com with the output of
/var/log/Xorg.log. We can fix this and send the fix upstream for the
benefit for all distributions as well.
KDE 4: Again, would be quite useful to get bug report to keep track of
the issues and address them
PackageKit: The PackageKit daemon is not a regular service and hence it
is not managed by the service administration gui. It is a system
activated daemon and automatically starts on demand and stops as soon as
the task is done.
It would be great if you could update your review to include all these
information and provide us with some bug reports on the warts you have
noted. Once again, thank you for your review. We appreciate your input.
To end 2008 with a cherry on top, the Fedora Project is glad to announce the
release of the 4th issue of Fedora Brazil Magazine. This issue brings a
editorial written by Augusto Campos, who draws a retrospective review of
Fedora's 5 years and he presents a picture of how it changed the Linux
Distributions ecosystem after Fedora's first release announcement.
Furthermore, the magazine displays a special approach to the brand new
Fedora 10, presenting it in a clearly and simply way all new features and
changes of this new release. Enjoy yourself and take part of Fedora Brazil
Magazine's promotion and compete for a copy of the book "*Java –
Fundamentos, prática & certificação*", by Adilson Bonanovisk.
Shell script classes continues. There is also a stroll through SELinux
mysteries, headshots in Urban Terror game and an unfailing walkthrough to
build your own Fedora up. And there's a lot more, 66 pages where variety
won't be a problem.
Happy new year and do not forget to download the magazine in the link below:
P.S.: Scribus source in the beginning of January.
Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior
"In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!"
As posted on my blog today, I'd like to make the following
announcement and provide information to help North American
The Fedora Live CDs arrived this past week, right in time for
Christmas. They look great. (see
If you are interested in obtaining some pressed media to distribute at
an event or Local User Group (LUG), please make a request on the new
FAmNA Resource Request tracker. (A special thanks to Jon Stanley
for setting this up.) Make sure to include the following information
* Name and Address
* The number of LiveCDs you'd like
- Currently, we only have 32-bit LiveCDs. The order has
been placed for 32-bit and 64-bit install media, delivery is expected
around mid-January. When this media arrives, I will announce the
* A short explanation of your request and how it might promote Fedora
* Phone Number (optional)
* How you would like the shipped (Choose Ground unless you can
justify faster shipping)
* Your region (shown as component)
- Do Not assign the task to anyone, it is automatically
assigned to the correct person based upon region.
In addition, you will likely get a 'TICKET_VIEW privileges are
required to perform this operation' error. We do this because we are
asking for mailing addresses and do not wish to share them with anyone
else. Check your email, if you received a confirmation of the ticket,
it has been filed and we'll address it as quickly as possible.
If you are interested in who is getting your request, you may wish to
head on over to the North America regional list.
If you are an Event Owner for Q4 2009, please do not send requests.
Events are handled by the FedoraEvents page. We are aware of the
events and will coordinate with you individually.
In addition, at the upcoming FUDCon, we'll be building an
AmbassadorKit. The AmbassadorKit is designed to be a small package
delivered to any Fedora contributor who wishes to spread Fedora. The
AmbassadorKit will include the following (at minimum):
* Between 10 and 20 bits of Media (LiveCDs, DVDs)
* A display box for holding media
* One or Two Fedora t-shirts
* A few sheets of Fedora Stickers
* Fedora Buttons
Other items can be included in the AmbassadorKit, such as:
* Fedora Temporary Tattoos (while supplies last)
* Fedora LiveUSBs (in the future, or if some sponsor would like to
donate them hint hint)
* Anything else you can think of that would be useful for promoting Fedora.
Once the AmbassadorKits are designed and can easily be built and
delivered, we will add them to the FAmNA Resource Request tracker so
they can also be requested.
I look forward to delivering massive amounts of media over the next
few months to those who need it.
0 - http://sexysexypenguins.com
1 - https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/
2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions
3 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
4 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11
5 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorKit
I just wanted to wish everyone a very happy holiday season. I've been
quiet the last few days since I've been on a vacation and self-imposed
computer ban (I'm cheating now) which continues until early January. I
hope to catch up on everything then, and continue to work with everyone
to plow full steam ahead on all the great stuff we've been planning and
Good Tidings and a Happy New Year,
Marketers and Ambassadors,
I've taken on the responsibility (along with Larry Cafiero) of manning
and supporting the fedora booth at SCALE7x this year.
For those of you who have not been or heard of SCaLE, it's the
Southern California Linux Exposition and it's held at the Westin near
the LAX airport every year. Last year's booth was awesome. It was
my first real induction helping at events sponsored by Fedora.
SCaLE is Friday, Saturday and Sunday, February 20-22, 2009, and while
that seems a long while off, two months go by quickly. If you can
commit to taking the time, we'd love to have you help out at the
booth. I believe the admission price is 50% off (normal price is $60)
for those who help at the booth, and possibly for every Fedora
contributor (more info to come on this later).
This year looks to be an even greater year for Fedora, with a big
movement of Ambassadors in North America, SCaLE promises to be a big
success for us again. The booth this year is again looking for
volunteers and we need to fill the three days from 9am to 5pm, so if
you are interested in helping, let us know by signing up at the
SCALE7x wiki page.
In addition, I'd like to see some new banners to put into the Fedora
EventBox and some posters for the four f's (this is indeed our new
mantra) as well. I know this art is already created, we just need to
get it in place. Thus, I suggest we update the EventBox(en) out there
with these materials ASAP. I've seen discussion of this in IRC and
mailing lists. If you know anything about this, please respond here
with that information as well.
I look forward to a very successful year of Fedora Events, starting
with SCaLE 7x.
1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE/SCALE6X
2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event
3 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox/NA/West
It must be the Holidays, I have contacted a dozen or so publishers,
but I am totally not hearing from anyone. Usually these people treat anyone interested like a ham in the Amazon; with them as the piranha.
Ian Weller wrote:
we can pretty much do anything with the design,
I would like to NOT have to pages with the same layout: one on top, another on bottom, another on side, another on the other side, maybe another over the photo... each with its own height or width.
Exactly, we can basically do anything. We can bring web graphics to book-form. We don't have to use a lot of color; or we can do all color. Color text, pictures, widgets, borders and shaded areas, superimposed text or thought bubbles on top of the pictures. And we don't have make it a bound book. We could do a magazine, or bound magazine sized book. Or think corporate report type book; some of these are artworks, and of course, executive types are not going to want to look at Xerox copies. The point is anything you can do on a rectangular computer screen, you can do on a rectangular book page. Or square, sans the LOVE Book.
A couple of other considerations:
Release forms: I (not a lawyer) do not think we will need them. Under the Book version of the Copy Right Laws, there is the Fair Use Exception. One aspect of it is: if you go to a public event, where it can be reasonably assumed there will be photographers taking photographs, and you get your picture taken, you do not have a case. And there is always the quick aural release form, as long as you have a witness.
Captions under photos: When we use a photo we should note the photographer's name and try to identify the people in the photo if possible. Captions can be small text and could be something like: A photo by Mairin Duffy, shows Ian Weller, at a recent FUDCON, explaining the Anaconda Installer to a crowd of enthralled passersby. The more names we get into the book the more personal it will become for the reader.
Ian mentioned, and something we will have to work out is a way or place for people to submit their photos and stories. We can set up an on line drop (can we use fpaste for that?) and then send an announcement to all the Red Hat lists, Open Submission for two weeks or 300 photos, which ever come first. Someone with expertise will have to handle the logistics on that. Then those of us listed on the Picture Book wiki ( or any others ), can each choose our favorites, then meet sometime on #fedora-meeting to hash it out.
Remember, anything I suggest here or anywhere is optional. This should totally be a team effort with input from everybody
-- w Douglas Berry --
Hi Folks --
As outlined in last week's Marketing meeting, the marketing folks are
holding a Marketing Plan Virtual Hackfest in #fedora-meeting at 7 p.m.
Eastern U.S. on Tuesday, 12/23 -- that's 0:00 UTC on Wednesday 12/24.
Hope you all can make it.
I love songfight.org I would love to see a Fedora themed songfight at
songfight.org, complete with album cover fight.
I do not know yet how difficult this would be to make happen, or even
if songfight.org would be willing to sponsor it. I could reach out to
them if we thought this was a good idea. Note that typically
songfight.org doesn't put any sort of copyright restrictions on
submissions. I would imagine that if we wanted to make a Fedora themed
fight, and they were willing to help us do it, we'd need to impose
some specific CC licensing restrictions. This sort of thing may
require some negotiation with them if we need them to host the
interface for the 'fight'.
I have no idea if this is possible, I'm just throwing it out there as
something I'm willing to work towards making happen if there is some
consensus that its a good idea to do from a brand building
Failing that, I would LOVE to see a Fedora branded catalog offering in
Magnatunes or Jamendo similar to the Red Hat Summit Compilation that
exists in Magnatunes currently. Open up rhythmbox, search the
Magnatunes catelog for Red Hat and take a listen. But again I have no
idea how to make that sort of thing happen as part of a Fedora branded
thing. if there are some Red Hat marketting people lurking who were
part of getting the Summit Compilation together, your input as to the
feasibility of this idea is perhaps invaluably value.
Hello Artwork, Docs, L10n, Marketing, and Websites teams!
First, I hope you all have a happy holiday season, and enjoy some time
with friends, family, and loved ones. We've had a really big year in
Fedora and I am so incredibly proud to have worked with all of you
each day. We've pushed out two incredibly great releases of Fedora
this year, Fedora 9 and 10, each stronger than the one before.
As we are now deeply into the Fedora 11 development cycle, I've been
thinking we really all want to know the various team interdependencies
before we get to the Alpha phase of the release. If one team has a
particular deadline, and that requires input from some other team to
complete, we want to know that. In the best possible world, each team
will be producing what its partner needs in plenty of time for that
partner team to work effectively, and so on down the line.
We've had release day planning meetings over the last couple of
releases which have helped, I think, quite a bit to ensure people have
what they need from other groups. We have an opportunity to make this
process work even more smoothly, and driven more by each team, if we
can figure out the very broad tasks that each team has to complete for
a release, and map them out on the release schedule.
Some of the teams receiving this message have done preliminary (or
maybe even more) work on the schedule already, which is fantastic. I
think FUDCon gives us a chance to bring together people from most of
your teams to flesh that work out where it's helpful. I don't believe
we need to "finish" the schedule, and that might be a hazy goal
anyway. We'll probably end up finding places where we can refine it
after this release to do even better for Fedora 12. But each
iteration brings us something that we can use to help releases go more
Many of us are volunteers, and we all still want to know, first and
foremost, that our work is important, and valued in Fedora. The work
we do is far more important than simply hitting a date on a calendar.
But we also all want to know that we are helping our fellow community
members, and that each of us is doing our best to help Fedora move
forward as a project.
I've asked John Poelstra to help me put together a hackfest at FUDCon
Boston 2009, bringing together people from each of your teams to talk
through these interdependencies and record them. The result, I
believe, will make each succeeding release easier, more efficient, and
Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/
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