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joining Marketing
by Karsten Wade 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Question about: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Join Step 4, "Join the 'marketing' group in the Account System." Since we tend to use the groups to signal various effects (voting, fedorapeople.org access, etc.), it seems to make sense to have a requirement/entry barrier to get into that group. Versus, for example, just letting in anyone who requests. Any objections to adding a bullet to step 4? " * You must introduce yourself to the mailing list before you can be approved for the 'marketing' group." Naturally I'm asking because we have a few requests in the queue, and while I recognize a few of the names as having joined discussions on this list, it would be nice for the group admins to have a clear criteria. Also, some of you are not in that group and you should be. So join! make Thomas, Patrick, and myself busy with sponsoring; or step-up to be a group admin and help out with that part, too. :) Thx - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Re: Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 45, Issue 13
by Denis Dahsulja 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Hi all, looks great, very good document, my Portuguese is little bit rusty, but if someone is to translate this on English, I'll be happy to translate it to Croatian. Regards ----- Original Message ---- From: "fedora-marketing-list-request(a)redhat.com" <fedora-marketing-list-request(a)redhat.com> To: fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:00:08 PM Subject: Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 45, Issue 13 Send Fedora-marketing-list mailing list submissions to fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-marketing-list-request(a)redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-marketing-list-owner(a)redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fedora-marketing-list digest..." NOTE: When replying to digest messages, please set the subject to match the original message. Today's Topics: 1. Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine (Davidson Rodrigues Paulo) 2. Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine (Juan M. Rodriguez) 3. Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine (John Babich) 4. Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine (M?ir?n Duffy) 5. Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine (Zied Fakhfakh) 6. Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better) (Nitipit) 7. Re: Fedora 9 interviews - what's left (Rodrigo Menezes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:02:02 -0300 From: "Davidson Rodrigues Paulo" <davidsonpaulo(a)gmail.com> Subject: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com, "For participants of the Documentation Project" <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com>, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>, "Development discussions related to Fedora" <fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <bc94d3fa0803121002q216b487p345383c7cd1aecf0(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, We are proud to announce the release of the first issue of Revista Fedora Brasil (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about Fedora made by Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for those who speak Portuguese. Starting our release cicle, we've choosen "Fedora 8" as the cover story and central theme of the magazine, including articles about system-config-firewall and IcedTea. We also included an interview with FAmSCo member Rodrigo Padula, a column by Igor Soares and some Fedora news selected by Rodrigo Menezes and his team. Official release announce: * http://projetofedora.org/node/424 Download it now (PDF, 5.1 MB): * http://www.projetofedora.org/revista/arquivos/RevistaFedoraBrasil001.pdf We hope we have been done a good job, but we know we can do even better. To make this possible, we are working to turn easy for our readers to send comments, sugestions and, of course, content to be published. Any feedback will be very welcome. Thanks, -- Davidson Paulo Fedora Brazil Magazine, Editor-In-Chief Linux System Administrator LPI Certified Level 1: LPI000132770 Brazilian Fedora Ambassador http://daveandnaty.blogspot.com/ http://davidsonenatalia.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:32:34 -0600 From: "Juan M. Rodriguez" <nushio(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <ca0e1ff30803121032w7c22ba6ch457bade300b7dd20(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Davidson Rodrigues Paulo < davidsonpaulo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > We are proud to announce the release of the first issue of Revista > Fedora Brasil (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about > Fedora made by Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for > those who speak Portuguese. > > Starting our release cicle, we've choosen "Fedora 8" as the cover > story and central theme of the magazine, including articles about > system-config-firewall and IcedTea. We also included an interview with > FAmSCo member Rodrigo Padula, a column by Igor Soares and some Fedora > news selected by Rodrigo Menezes and his team. > > Official release announce: > > * http://projetofedora.org/node/424 > > Download it now (PDF, 5.1 MB): > > * > http://www..projetofedora.org/revista/arquivos/RevistaFedoraBrasil001.pdf > > We hope we have been done a good job, but we know we can do even > better. To make this possible, we are working to turn easy for our > readers to send comments, sugestions and, of course, content to be > published. > > Any feedback will be very welcome. > > Thanks, > > -- > Davidson Paulo > Fedora Brazil Magazine, Editor-In-Chief > Linux System Administrator > LPI Certified Level 1: LPI000132770 > Brazilian Fedora Ambassador > http://daveandnaty.blogspot.com/ > http://davidsonenatalia.blogspot.com/ > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > I downloaded it, but my lack of Portuguese skills got the best of me, would it be too much of an issue to launch an alternate version in either English or Spanish? :-) I really liked the layout of the magazine, and found what little I could understand interesting. Everything looks highly professional. The only issue I could spot was the Blue Hat in page 6, I'm not sure it should be there. Great job on the magazine! -Juan Rodriguez. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/attachments/20080312/… ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:44:53 +0300 From: "John Babich" <jmbabich(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <9d2c731f0803121044w4451477cxe9ecf0aa8e9e11e2(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Davidson Rodrigues Paulo > <davidsonpaulo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > We are proud to announce the release of the first issue of Revista > > Fedora Brasil (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about > > Fedora made by Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for > > those who speak Portuguese. > > I can't judge the written contents, but it's certainly a great design and very professional-looking. > > Starting our release cicle, we've choosen "Fedora 8" as the cover > > story and central theme of the magazine, including articles about > > system-config-firewall and IcedTea. We also included an interview with > > FAmSCo member Rodrigo Padula, a column by Igor Soares and some Fedora > > news selected by Rodrigo Menezes and his team. > > <snip> There's seems to be a good variety of topics. > > We hope we have been done a good job, but we know we can do even > > better. To make this possible, we are working to turn easy for our > > readers to send comments, sugestions and, of course, content to be > > published. > > You're off to a great start. Best Regards, John Babich Member, FAmSCo ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:20:56 -0400 From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> Cc: Development discussions related to Fedora <fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com>, For participants of the Documentation Project <fedora-docs-list@redhat..com>, fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Message-ID: <47D81F08.8050703(a)fedoraproject.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote: > Any feedback will be very welcome. The design and layout looks great! Bravo! ~m ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:24:44 +0100 From: "Zied Fakhfakh" <fzied(a)dottn.com> Subject: Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <a72dba1a0803121124i21062b53x8cc498500087d696(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Good job, even I don't unsderstand portguese Congrats :) On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:20 PM, MÃ¡irÃn Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote: > > Any feedback will be very welcome. > > The design and layout looks great! Bravo! > > ~m > > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:39:18 +0700 From: Nitipit <nitipit(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better) To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <3b3c965c0803121239p3fe438bk91b3a368d3521bac(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I like this idea. First time I came to fedoraproject.org as a new linux user, It take me time to figure out about the goal of this website. And it's hard to find some information I need. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/attachments/20080313/… ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:50:31 -0400 From: Rodrigo Menezes <rodrigomenezes12(a)yahoo.com.br> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 interviews - what's left To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <47D8B297.9050209(a)yahoo.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Guys, Any news about the interviews below? I wanna talk about Anaconda in the next one, I need to know if someone is covering this issue. Cheers, Rodrigo Menezes Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > I see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/EricSandeen done by > Rodrigo Menezes. It seems complete though he hasn't announced it himself. > > What's left? > ------------ > > FreeIPA - really unique and we are leading this effort that probably > will help solve one of the major admin pain point > > Presto is in limbo for now. So we can skip it > > Jidgo - Should cover if we are getting this as one of the alternative > distribution methods for Fedora 9. Cover pyjidgo and whatever new > features we are driving. Some discussions at > > https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/jigdo-user/2007-November/000113.html > > PreUpgrade - Should be really interesting to cover > > Anaconda - Very visible changes.Interview the entire Anaconda team. > Partition resizing support, Encryption support, netinst.iso that > combines boot.iso and rescue.iso, lots of other backend work > > Display - Adam Jackson is release guy for the next upstream release > and scheduled it around Fedora 9. Should cover Fast X, RandR and > probably Soeren's work covered to some extend in > > http://www.j5live.com/2008/01/30/j5-live-vlog-soeren-talks-about-projectors… > > > Virtualization - Lot of major work esp xen on paravirt_ops. Look up a > lot of blogs including > > http://berrange.com/personal/diary/2007/11/plan-for-xen-kernels-in-fedora-9 > > > Get in touch with Daniel Berrange. He would know who else we can > interview on this. Ask about Ovirt, virtual appliance creator, policy > kit integration with virt manager, virtual storage, virt kernel boot etc. > > LTSP integration - Very high profile. Interview Warren and Eric. > https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/jigdo-user/2007-November/000113.html > > Upstart - Probably the first time, we had a very core feature be > mostly community driven. Need to cover the FUDCon decision bits too. > Not too interesting technically since we no distribution is actually > taking advantage of upstart features yet and will be running under > sysvinit compatibility mode. > > GDM, Gvfs, GCC 4.3 - Fedora is driving upstream. Backend stuff though > except for GDM. We will be early adopters so might be good to cover > GDM first. > > Swfdec - Consult with desktop team and interview upstream too if we > are getting this installed by default > > SELinux user space confinement - Not in the feature list but this is a > interesting feature neverthless and deserves to be highlighted better. > Blog at > http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/15700.html > > Rahul > _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você! 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making the website better
by Juan Camilo Prada 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

I wanted to share with the marketing list this idea. Ive talked to some guys at the websites group and it seems that there is a lack of people helping in that area. I also commented in my blog a few days ago about the lack of information the main site has, leaving almost all the basic information to the wiki, which makes the site fedoraproject.org useless. So the people from the websites team encouraged me to lead an effort to work on this issue, im already thinking about the basic information the main site of the project should have and so im already working on the design of the new sections. As a prospective member of the marketing team, i want to work on the website by providing the really important information about the project (for specific information we have the wiki) while, at the same time, working on some banners or sections to encourage people to join the community specially on areas that are weak on man power such as the websites team. So far this is the list of important items that should appear somewhere int http://fedoraproject.org on the Index (home) page * A small article explaining what fedora is (its already in the website) * A small div with the News (Fedora Weekly News) * A direct link (or links) to download the liveCDS or iso DVD * List of the mos significant Spins currently hosted on the mirrors Also there should be (imo) a new section which explain how to get help and support. If any of you have another idea about some other item that should be in the main site share it. BTW, this is not official, and its just a proposal that i think its necessary for the project.

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Canceled - Store SIG Meeting - 2008-03-12
by Jeffrey Tadlock 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

The Fedora Store SIG [1] meeting on 2008-03-12 will be canceled. I am in training all week and will be unavailable to lead the meeting. As always, feel free to post your questions and discussion on the Fedora Marketing list. Thanks! Jeffrey [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store

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fedora store SIG
by Ian Weller 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Hey, I was taking a look at the Store SIG wiki page, and I just had a few questions/thoughts... - Why is Zazzle not on the potential distributors list? - Goal 1 states that we make it easier for Ambassadors and event organizers, however by potentially going through different distributors for different products (a lot of 'propsed items' are offered by different people), this seems to cancel itself out. (of course this is trivial) One idea I had for a store was using distributors with nice APIs that could submit orders automatically. Thenw hat I would do is implement all the products into one store (let's say at store.fedoraproject.org) and when the order was placed on store.fp, orders would be placed with distributors automatically, and the person ordering everything would be notified of what distributors are sending what. Also was there a meeting on 2008-03-05? I noticed that meetings are sparsley populated, and I could show up if the meetings didn't happen while I was in school. I'm not asking for a time change necessarily. I'd like to discuss the future of the store with somebody. -- ian

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GNU/Linux World Domination for the Wrong Reasons
by Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3733286 ============= In the same way, you only have to glance at the user forums of major distributions like Fedora or Ubuntu to see that more users are concerned with getting proprietary video drivers installed than with having control of their own computers. After all, the proprietary drivers are available at no cost, just like the ethically free ones, so why not use them, especially when they are technologically more advanced? I've even seen some users castigate Fedora for not providing the proprietary drivers in its repositories. Never mind that to do so would be against Fedora's policy of including only free software -- with such users, the short term convenience of the technically superior proprietary drivers outweighs the ethos of freedom. Many of the complainers do not even appear to have heard of free software ideals. Nor do they bother listening when those ideals are raised. ============= -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru 天野晃「あまのひかる」 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331

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Some marketing tips from Linux magazine
by Jonathan Roberts 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hey all, I had the opportunity to ask Joe Cassad from Linux Magazine about how they come across ideas for stories and articles, and what Fedora can do to make it easier for them to find stories about Fedora. The most important part of the response I got was this Me: > * In an ideal world, how would you like to go about getting > information about a project like Fedora when trying to find material > for new articles? Essentially, what can Fedora do for you to make your > job easier!? > Joe: I'm not sure where you are on this now, but one thing I have noticed in the past is that it is difficult to get good documentation on Fedora until after the release. If I don't get to see a detailed description of highlights or new features until the release notes appear, this task of finding good article topics can't start until the release. It then takes a couple months to get an article and a couple more months to edit and print the magazine. If there were a way to get better documentation before the release, that would help a lot. I don't know if you're having to content with non-disclosure strategies here, so maybe this isn't possible. Me: > Do you know about our FeatureList page? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList > Joe: OK. That's useful to know about. I'll watch that list. The important part is the description. Some of these features have useful descriptions some are not as easy to understand at a glance. --------------- What do people think? Maybe the SSS could help us here? And the FeatureList could be promoted more/cleaned up by marketing or docs people? Best wishes, Jon

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Re: Beta Release Notes - FINAL EDIT NEEDED
by Jonathan Roberts 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hi all, Does anybody have a spare half an hour to go through the Beta release notes and tidy it up? I think most of the content we need is there (even if it's not all there, we've got pretty good coverage) but there's just one or two sections that need changing from long bulleted lists with esoteric iamext4developer bits and bobs that need tidying before release. I'm feeling pretty swamped myself just now as it's the last week of term and there seems to be a million things to do before going home on Thursday! If it can wait until the weekend then I should be able to do it then, but if somebody else has the time to tidy things you'd be a hero :) Many thanks, Jon

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Beta Release Notes
by Jonathan Roberts 09 Mar '08

09 Mar '08

OK all, I've copied the content from the Alpha Release Notes to /wiki/Releases/9/Beta/ReleaseNotes so that we can begin updating it for the Beta release. I think this is the most straight forward method for now, so if anybody is interested in helping if we simply follow the format that is there but update the information about the features already listed and add information for features that weren't in Alpha I think we'll be in good shape :) Best wishes, Jon

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Fedora on the Final Frontier
by Rahul Sundaram 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

Hi, http://www.osnews.com/story/19405/Fedora_on_the_Final_Frontier ""There has been a long standing rumor regarding NASA running Fedora which all of us in the Fedora community have been always intrigued by. Is it true? What are they doing with it there? Why don't they run RHEL. Fortunately enough, a couple of weeks ago, I got to experience NASA behind the scenes, first hand, and hang out with the coolest members of the Fedora community, and and find out the answers to these questions and lots more" Rahul

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