Re: GNOME 3?

[Jason Fenner]

I think its a pretty good idea.  It also could point out how Fedora is state
of the art and features Gnome Shell ready for you to try out.

On Jan 18, 2010 5:09 PM, "Mel Chua" <mel(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

Some interesting stuff from the GNOME marketing team re: GNOME 3.

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeThreeBrainstorming
http://live.gnome.org/MarketingBrief2009

Do we want to do anything with this (might make a good Fedora Insight
article or articles)? Possibly sync publicity efforts with the GNOME
folks if they're planning things? Imo, this may be a good opportunity to
showcase how the upstream/downstream ecosystem works in open source.

Some notes from Paul: "The most visible part is the GNOME Shell, the
preview of which works in Fedora 12, to varying degrees based on whether
you have a 3D capable video card.  On most ATI Radeon cards it's working
well, on Nouveau not at all (using NVidia proprietary drivers, however,
works). Someone with an Intel card that's 3D capable in F12 would need
to check it.  Just 'yum install gnome-shell' and then use the Desktop
Effects preferences tool to try it out."

I've just done this (took me about 2 minutes) and it's pretty spiffy so far.

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GNOME 3?

[Neville A. Cross]

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Jason Fenner <axelilly(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  I've just done this (took me about 2 minutes) and it's pretty spiffy so far.
>  
I did try with nVidia drivers form rpmfusion and I am having some crashes.

The "I am Gnome" sound like "I am Fedora" :)

As Mel said looks like a good case for showing up/down stream cooperation


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GNOME 3?

[Nicu Buculei]

On 01/19/2010 02:28 AM, Neville A. Cross wrote:
>  The "I am Gnome" sound like "I am Fedora" :) 
Are you sure both of them does not sound like "I am PC"? for reference 
see (sorry for Flash): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVMy0PFr8no


PS: I *hate* GNOME Shell as it was presented in the preview from F12 
with all my passion and hope the classic panel will remain usable for a 
while.

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[SPAM] Re: GNOME 3?

[threethirty]

On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 09:20 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:

>  Are you sure both of them does not sound like "I am PC"?
> for reference 
>  see (sorry for Flash): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVMy0PFr8no
>   
check out http://tinyogg.com a Free (as in Freedom) youtube converter 

>  PS: I *hate* GNOME Shell as it was presented in the preview from F12
>
>  with all my passion and hope the classic panel will remain usable for a 
>  while. 
just run gnome-shell --replace and pow good ole gnome


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[SPAM] Re: GNOME 3?

[Nicu Buculei]

On 01/19/2010 09:27 AM, Justin O'Brien wrote:
>  On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 09:20 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > Are you sure both of them does not sound like "I am PC"? for reference
> > see (sorry for Flash): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVMy0PFr8no
> >
>
>  check out http://tinyogg.com a Free (as in Freedom) youtube converter 
Sure, but the clip is not licensed in a way so you can download, convert 
and distribute it.

> > PS: I *hate* GNOME Shell as it was presented in the preview from
> F12
> > with all my passion and hope the classic panel will remain usable for a
> > while.
>
>  just run gnome-shell --replace and pow good ole gnome 
I am obviously aware about that, just not being confident it will still 
be possible in F14, F15 and beyond.

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GNOME 3?

[Neville A. Cross]

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote:
>  On 01/19/2010 02:28 AM, Neville A. Cross wrote:
> >
> > The "I am Gnome" sound like "I am Fedora" :)
>
>  Are you sure both of them does not sound like "I am PC"? for reference
>  see (sorry for Flash): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVMy0PFr8no
>  
You have a point. I have said out loud and taped on video "I am
Fedora", and I haven't used "I am a PC"

>  PS: I *hate* GNOME Shell as it was presented in the preview from F12
>  with all my passion and hope the classic panel will remain usable for a
>  while.
>  
I found Gnome-shell amusing, it is going away from simplicity and
usability. For instance, not having a system menu make me nervous
about accessing "desktop effect" to get rid of gnome-shell. Finally I
use the search bar and it was quick. Not saying is bad, just
different. Requires a learning process. Gnome has been work oriented
and this has more bells and whistles. It is really eye catching.

I went to a Ubuntu launch party, some one get a weird setup to get
gnome-shell running (Fedora is easy). It really catch the attention of
everybody.

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GNOME 3?

[Mario Torre]

Il giorno mar, 19/01/2010 alle 08.33 -0600, Neville A. Cross ha scritto:

>  I found Gnome-shell amusing, it is going away from simplicity and
>  usability. For instance, not having a system menu make me nervous
>  about accessing "desktop effect" to get rid of gnome-shell. Finally I
>  use the search bar and it was quick. Not saying is bad, just
>  different. Requires a learning process. Gnome has been work oriented
>  and this has more bells and whistles. It is really eye catching.
>  
>  I went to a Ubuntu launch party, some one get a weird setup to get
>  gnome-shell running (Fedora is easy). It really catch the attention of
>  everybody. 
Ok, we're going a bit offtopic here, but it's interesting nevertheless.

I'm not sure I like it, it has some interesting idea, but I find it
quite far from usable (ok, I've not tried it yet, just judging from the
videos, so I'm trying to hold by feelings on that for now).

What I don't understand, is why not get rid of the panel bar at this
point, the shell may be called by moving to some border, using a special
key/mouse combination, or via the window border (which is another
"obsolete" technology, but could serve a little more than just closing
applications at this point).

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GNOME 3?

[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:51:42PM +0100, Mario Torre wrote:
>  Il giorno mar, 19/01/2010 alle 08.33 -0600, Neville A. Cross ha
> scritto:
>  
>  > I found Gnome-shell amusing, it is going away from simplicity and
>  > usability. For instance, not having a system menu make me nervous
>  > about accessing "desktop effect" to get rid of gnome-shell. Finally I
>  > use the search bar and it was quick. Not saying is bad, just
>  > different. Requires a learning process. Gnome has been work oriented
>  > and this has more bells and whistles. It is really eye catching.
>  > 
>  > I went to a Ubuntu launch party, some one get a weird setup to get
>  > gnome-shell running (Fedora is easy). It really catch the attention of
>  > everybody.
>  
>  Ok, we're going a bit offtopic here, but it's interesting nevertheless.
>  
>  I'm not sure I like it, it has some interesting idea, but I find it
>  quite far from usable (ok, I've not tried it yet, just judging from the
>  videos, so I'm trying to hold by feelings on that for now).
>  
>  What I don't understand, is why not get rid of the panel bar at this
>  point, the shell may be called by moving to some border, using a special
>  key/mouse combination, or via the window border (which is another
>  "obsolete" technology, but could serve a little more than just closing
>  applications at this point). 
Before this conversation gets too far off topic, let me remind
everyone that GNOME Shell uses an open development process.  The
developers have their own mailing list here:

http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list

If you have questions or constructive input about GNOME Shell, it
belongs on that list.  Thanks!

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