[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Can I use the template of the fedorawiki for my private website?

[Alex]

Benny,

Thank you for your interest in Fedora. However, it is not for me to
decide whether the template can be used freely, so I am copying the
Fedora Marketing list.

Cheers,
a

On 11/3/06, Benny <benny1990(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi lxmaier!
>  The template of moin looks very nice. So I want to use it for my
>  personal moin wiki. Can I use it for that?
>
>  Many thanks!
>
>  Benny
>  

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[Tejas Dinkar]

On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:49:28PM -0500, Alex Maier wrote:
>  On 11/3/06, Benny <benny1990(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >Hi lxmaier!
>  >The template of moin looks very nice. So I want to use it for my
>  >personal moin wiki. Can I use it for that? 
I say let him :p

As long as he doesn't claim to be the official fedora site :p

And it isn't for corporate use

-T

[Aks]

In my opinion, we may let him use the template unless it does not hamper the
Fedora and the FOSS spirit!

Regards
Abhishek

On 11/6/06, Tejas Dinkar <tejasdinkar(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:49:28PM -0500, Alex Maier wrote:
>  > On 11/3/06, Benny <benny1990(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > >Hi lxmaier!
>  > >The template of moin looks very nice. So I want to use it for my
>  > >personal moin wiki. Can I use it for that?
>
>  I say let him :p
>
>  As long as he doesn't claim to be the official fedora site :p
>
>  And it isn't for corporate use
>
>  -T
>
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[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Re: Can I use the template of the fedorawiki for my private website?

[Rex Dieter]

Tejas Dinkar wrote:

>  On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:49:28PM -0500, Alex Maier wrote:
> > On 11/3/06, Benny <benny1990(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > >Hi lxmaier!
> > >The template of moin looks very nice. So I want to use it for my
> > >personal moin wiki. Can I use it for that?
>  
>  I say let him :p
>  As long as he doesn't claim to be the official fedora site :p 
fair enough.

>  And it isn't for corporate use 
Adding extra restrictions like this goes against the OSS definition/spirit.

-- Rex

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Re: Can I use the template of the fedorawiki for my private website?

[Máirín Duffy]

Rex Dieter wrote:
>  Adding extra restrictions like this goes against the OSS
> definition/spirit. 
Artwork isn't software.

~m

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Re: Can I use the template of the fedorawiki for my private website?

[Tejas Dinkar]

On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:14:19AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  Rex Dieter wrote:
>  >Adding extra restrictions like this goes against the OSS definition/spirit.
>  
>  Artwork isn't software. 
He said it's against the spirit :p

A Valid point, but IMO if you _CAN_ afford to hire someone to make a nice site for you,
you should... On the Other hand if you just want a small site to play with, it's
easier to just "borrow" designs :p

It's really Up to you....

Actually, who DOES own the copyrights on the templates, anyway?

-T

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Re: Can I use the template of the fedorawiki for my private website?

[Máirín Duffy]

Tejas Dinkar wrote:
>  On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:14:19AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > Rex Dieter wrote:
> >> Adding extra restrictions like this goes against the OSS definition/spirit.
> > Artwork isn't software.
>  
>  He said it's against the spirit :p 
How can an artwork license go against the definition/spirit of open 
source software? Artwork != software. The definition/spirit of open 
source software simply does not apply. (Sidestepping the fact that 
'definition/spirit of OSS' is rather ambiguous - referring to all of OSS 
rather than a particular software license. For example, the spirit of 
the GPL is different than the spirit of a BSD license...)

The closest thing to 'oss definition/spirit' for artwork could be 
creative commons, which has a several licenses that include a 
'non-commercial' clause. Artwork licenses are necessarily different than 
software licenses - alluding to the unfortunate fact that many people 
incorrectly assume that artwork part of or related to a FOSS project (or 
if it's licensed under *any* creative commons license) is the equivalent 
of public domain. This is not the case.

It does not help, though, that the license for the moinmoin theme & 
artwork is not defined/stated anywhere (well, at least that I can find.) 
It probably should be.

>  A Valid point, but IMO if you _CAN_ afford to hire someone to make a
> nice site for you, you should... On the Other hand if you just want a small site to play
> with, it's easier to just "borrow" designs :p 
"Borrow" as long as it's allowed by the license for the design. Let's 
not forget that.

>  Actually, who DOES own the copyrights on the templates, anyway?
This is a good question to ask. I would assume hrishi & dfong:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2005-November/msg001...

Do be sure to file a request for using the Fedora logo though if you 
intend to use the logo as used in the theme.

~m