5:40 a.m.
Ok, I've set up a mailing list and irc channel for Lebanon. Now I'd
like to set up a page in the wiki that directs people looking for
"fedora" and "lebanon" to these places. Is there a namespace that I
should use? Or should I just use my user page?
Jonathan
10:58 a.m.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:40:25PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
Ok, I've set up a mailing list and irc channel for Lebanon. Now
I'd
like to set up a page in the wiki that directs people looking for
"fedora" and "lebanon" to these places. Is there a namespace that I
should use? Or should I just use my user page?
You could do it here for now:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedoracommunity.org
However, you might want to investigate with the Websites team whether
we want to (or can) set up a fedoracommunity.org main page in their
fedora-web repo, using the same organization and standards as the rest
of the Fedora websites. It would be nice if someone typing
'{www.,}fedoracommunity.org' into their web browser saw a listing of
current subdomains.
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1:30 p.m.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:40:25PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> Ok, I've set up a mailing list and irc channel for Lebanon. Now I'd
> like to set up a page in the wiki that directs people looking for
> "fedora" and "lebanon" to these places. Is there a namespace
that I
> should use? Or should I just use my user page?
You could do it here for now:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedoracommunity.org
However, you might want to investigate with the Websites team whether
we want to (or can) set up a fedoracommunity.org main page in their
fedora-web repo, using the same organization and standards as the rest
of the Fedora websites. It would be nice if someone typing
'{www.,}fedoracommunity.org' into their web browser saw a listing of
current subdomains.
--
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http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
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There is a wiki page for international listing:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/International
From the point of view of one user looking to get in touch with the
local fedora team this may be a good starting point. I think is a bit
unknown.
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2:54 p.m.
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 12:30 -0600, Neville A. Cross wrote:
There is a wiki page for international listing:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/International
From the point of view of one user looking to get in touch with the
local fedora team this may be a good starting point. I think is a bit
unknown.
This is nice, but we don't actually have a separate web site for
Lebanon, and, to be honest, I'm not all that pushed. I just want
something other than my Ambassador's page to come up when someone types
"Fedora Lebanon" into Google.
Thanks for the pointer, though. I did some searching in the wiki before
asking my original question on this list, and never came across that
page. It probably should get a bit more advertising.
Jonathan
2:56 p.m.
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 11:58 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:40:25PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> Ok, I've set up a mailing list and irc channel for Lebanon. Now I'd
> like to set up a page in the wiki that directs people looking for
> "fedora" and "lebanon" to these places. Is there a namespace
that I
> should use? Or should I just use my user page?
You could do it here for now:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedoracommunity.org
However, you might want to investigate with the Websites team whether
we want to (or can) set up a fedoracommunity.org main page in their
fedora-web repo, using the same organization and standards as the rest
of the Fedora websites. It would be nice if someone typing
'{www.,}fedoracommunity.org' into their web browser saw a listing of
current subdomains.
I've gone ahead and set up a stub page for Fedoracommunity.org and a
link to the newly setup Lebanon page. I've done very little with the
wiki, so if I screwed anything up, please let me know (or feel free to
fix it if that's your preference).
I would love to have lebanon.fedoracommunity.org point to the Lebanon
wiki page, so I'll see about talking to the website team at some point
in the next few weeks.
Thanks for the help.
Jonathan
10:21 a.m.
Hi Jonathan,
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:56:31PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 11:58 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:40:25PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> > Ok, I've set up a mailing list and irc channel for Lebanon. Now I'd
> > like to set up a page in the wiki that directs people looking for
> > "fedora" and "lebanon" to these places. Is there a
namespace that I
> > should use? Or should I just use my user page?
>
> You could do it here for now:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedoracommunity.org
>
> However, you might want to investigate with the Websites team whether
> we want to (or can) set up a fedoracommunity.org main page in their
> fedora-web repo, using the same organization and standards as the rest
> of the Fedora websites. It would be nice if someone typing
> '{www.,}fedoracommunity.org' into their web browser saw a listing of
> current subdomains.
I've gone ahead and set up a stub page for Fedoracommunity.org and a
link to the newly setup Lebanon page. I've done very little with the
wiki, so if I screwed anything up, please let me know (or feel free to
fix it if that's your preference).
Would you be interested in talking to the websites team to get a list
of other *.fedoracommunity.org subdomains, and adding them to this
page too?
I would love to have lebanon.fedoracommunity.org point to the
Lebanon
wiki page, so I'll see about talking to the website team at some point
in the next few weeks.
Usually we use the standard country code for this, ergo
lb.fedoracommunity.org. You can find more information on our local
community domain offerings here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains
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http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com
6:36 p.m.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:56:31PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> I would love to have lebanon.fedoracommunity.org point to the Lebanon
> wiki page, so I'll see about talking to the website team at some point
> in the next few weeks.
Usually we use the standard country code for this, ergo
lb.fedoracommunity.org. You can find more information on our local
community domain offerings here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains
The same thing I wanted to register for the Chinese community as
cn.fc.o to have a good starting point, as currently there are too many
places to go to which are all hard to find. Added this to the
communities page and should I place a message in the infra channel?
Gerard
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9:41 a.m.
Hi Gerard,
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 07:36:40AM +0800, Gerard Braad wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Paul W. Frields
<stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:56:31PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
>> I would love to have lebanon.fedoracommunity.org point to the Lebanon
>> wiki page, so I'll see about talking to the website team at some point
>> in the next few weeks.
> Usually we use the standard country code for this, ergo
> lb.fedoracommunity.org. You can find more information on our local
> community domain offerings here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains
The same thing I wanted to register for the Chinese community as
cn.fc.o to have a good starting point, as currently there are too many
places to go to which are all hard to find. Added this to the
communities page and should I place a message in the infra channel?
The procedure you should follow is laid out on that wiki page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains#Pre-purchased_domain
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4:04 p.m.
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 11:21 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:56:31PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> I've gone ahead and set up a stub page for Fedoracommunity.org and a
> link to the newly setup Lebanon page. I've done very little with the
> wiki, so if I screwed anything up, please let me know (or feel free to
> fix it if that's your preference).
Would you be interested in talking to the websites team to get a list
of other *.fedoracommunity.org subdomains, and adding them to this
page too?
I wouldn't mind, but my life is currently pretty busy, so it will
probably be a few weeks before I get to this.
> I would love to have lebanon.fedoracommunity.org point to the
Lebanon
> wiki page, so I'll see about talking to the website team at some point
> in the next few weeks.
Usually we use the standard country code for this, ergo
lb.fedoracommunity.org. You can find more information on our local
community domain offerings here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains
lb.fedoracommunity.org would be just dandy. After reading the above
link, my main concern is that it isn't obvious that we can have
http://lb.fedoracommunity.org point to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedoracommunity.org/Lebanon. I am
assuming this is feasible and not against the "we don't provide hosting"
policy.
Jonathan
12:56 p.m.
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:04:58AM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 11:21 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:56:31PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> > I would love to have lebanon.fedoracommunity.org point to the Lebanon
> > wiki page, so I'll see about talking to the website team at some point
> > in the next few weeks.
>
> Usually we use the standard country code for this, ergo
> lb.fedoracommunity.org. You can find more information on our local
> community domain offerings here:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains
lb.fedoracommunity.org would be just dandy. After reading the above
link, my main concern is that it isn't obvious that we can have
http://lb.fedoracommunity.org point to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedoracommunity.org/Lebanon. I am
assuming this is feasible and not against the "we don't provide hosting"
policy.
Ah, I had misunderstood that the wiki to which you were referring was
somewhere *other than* Fedora. In fact this may well impact on our
policy regarding fedoracommunity.org.
One of the major objectives of the fedoracommunity.org domain
structure is to allow communities to build their own content, and not
have that content restricted unnecessarily by official Fedora Project
policies. The use of "fedoracommunity.org" as the domain name helps
to clarify that the subdomains are managed independently and entirely
by Fedora community members.
To redirect a fedoracommunity.org domain to an official
fedoraproject.org site is technically feasible. But to do that, the
site content would be restricted to only material that can normally be
included on fedoraproject.org sites. This issue is probably something
the Board should discuss: Should we permit a fedoracommunity.org
subdomain to resolve to any official Fedora Project site/page?
My immediate thoughts are that the fedoracommunity.org subdomain works
best when we get out of a community member's way to provide useful,
localized information for Fedora. The more restrictions we put on its
use, the less useful it becomes. Muddling up the fedoracommunity.org
subdomain concept with the official purposes and policies of the
fedoraproject.org sites is likely to make life more difficult for a
local community that wants to grow its own content.
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2:08 p.m.
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 13:56 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:04:58AM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> lb.fedoracommunity.org would be just dandy. After reading the above
> link, my main concern is that it isn't obvious that we can have
> http://lb.fedoracommunity.org point to
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedoracommunity.org/Lebanon. I am
> assuming this is feasible and not against the "we don't provide
hosting"
> policy.
Ah, I had misunderstood that the wiki to which you were referring was
somewhere *other than* Fedora. In fact this may well impact on our
policy regarding fedoracommunity.org.
One of the major objectives of the fedoracommunity.org domain
structure is to allow communities to build their own content, and not
have that content restricted unnecessarily by official Fedora Project
policies. The use of "fedoracommunity.org" as the domain name helps
to clarify that the subdomains are managed independently and entirely
by Fedora community members.
To redirect a fedoracommunity.org domain to an official
fedoraproject.org site is technically feasible. But to do that, the
site content would be restricted to only material that can normally be
included on fedoraproject.org sites. This issue is probably something
the Board should discuss: Should we permit a fedoracommunity.org
subdomain to resolve to any official Fedora Project site/page?
My immediate thoughts are that the fedoracommunity.org subdomain works
best when we get out of a community member's way to provide useful,
localized information for Fedora. The more restrictions we put on its
use, the less useful it becomes. Muddling up the fedoracommunity.org
subdomain concept with the official purposes and policies of the
fedoraproject.org sites is likely to make life more difficult for a
local community that wants to grow its own content.
I totally see where you're coming from, and I have no problem not using
lb.fc.o until we get our own web site up and running. I just don't have
time to set up a web site right now, and I wanted to get the information
out there so it's easily accessible.
All that to say, I'm ok with whatever way the decision comes down.
Jonathan
8:19 p.m.
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
To redirect a fedoracommunity.org domain to an official
fedoraproject.org site is technically feasible. But to do that, the
site content would be restricted to only material that can normally be
included on fedoraproject.org sites. This issue is probably something
the Board should discuss: Should we permit a fedoracommunity.org
subdomain to resolve to any official Fedora Project site/page?
I guess the question that this brings up is twofold:
1) If the local community leaders want to redirect to an official fp,o
page, who are we to tell them what they can or cannot do (given the
constraints of appropriate use of the Fedora marks, for instance).
However, this leads to:
2) If what the local community wants to do falls entirely within the
Fedora Project content guidelines, what's the point of the
fedoracommunity.org subdomain?
So I guess I'm leaning -1 to redirects for now. Of course, on the
externally hosted site, if the local community wants to link to
official Fedora content, I'd say that's welcomed and encouraged :)
As an aside, I clicked on the fedoracommunity.org link accidentally in
the previous mail, and it went to a DNS error :(. I'm not sure if the
websites team would be interested in providing a landing page for
fedoracommunity.org leading to what subdomains currently exist, with
appropriate disclaimers that the content is not controlled by the
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