Fedora Buzz needs a new name

[Luke Slater]

Hello all,

I've been developing Fedora Buzz but before I go much further we really need 
to come up with a new name for it because of Google having a service of the 
same name; several people have mentioned it recently.

I can't think of anything so if we could get some sort of brainstorming thread 
going here?

If you can't remember or don't know about the project, you can read the wiki 
page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz

Thanks a lot,

-- 
Luke Slater
:O)

[Robert 'Bob' Jensen]

----- "Luke Slater" <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hello all,
>  
>  I've been developing Fedora Buzz but before I go much further we
>  really need 
>  to come up with a new name for it because of Google having a service
>  of the 
>  same name; several people have mentioned it recently.
>  
>  I can't think of anything so if we could get some sort of
>  brainstorming thread 
>  going here?
>  
>  If you can't remember or don't know about the project, you can read
>  the wiki 
>  page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz
>  
>  Thanks a lot,
>   
OMG! Google owns "buzz" now? Good thing we did not know that in the 80's
when we got "buzz"ed, what about the bees? are they going to have to bazz around
now... Good thing we don't live on planets, would hate to infringe on any ones use of
that word like "fedora planet." </sarcasm>

Someone needs to stop this insanity. Buzz is just a word, planet is just a word, Fedora is
just a word.

-- Bob

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[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen
<bob(a)fedoraunity.org&gt; wrote:
>  ----- "Luke Slater" <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've been developing Fedora Buzz but before I go much further we
> > really need
> > to come up with a new name for it because of Google having a service
> > of the
> > same name; several people have mentioned it recently.
> >
> > I can't think of anything so if we could get some sort of
> > brainstorming thread
> > going here?
> >
> > If you can't remember or don't know about the project, you can read
> > the wiki
> > page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
>
>  OMG! Google owns "buzz" now? Good thing we did not know that in the 80's
> when we got "buzz"ed, what about the bees? are they going to have to bazz around
> now... Good thing we don't live on planets, would hate to infringe on any ones use of
> that word like "fedora planet." </sarcasm> 
That wasn't really helpful was it?

>  Someone needs to stop this insanity. Buzz is just a word, planet is
> just a word, Fedora is just a word. 
They are also Brands. When a brand gets established and you go into
something that sounds like that Brand.. you expect it to look like
Brand even if it isn't. If I go get a distribution with Fedora on it..
I expect it to be an RPM based Linux distribution... not a Solaris or
Windows disk. If I go to a 'planet' I expect it to be a gathering of
various RSS feeds.

Now take that back 8 years ago.. I would probably expect very very
different things. Or if I am not into Linux or RSS have any idea why
people are all upset when they come to my Fedora Planet and get
articles on planets being made into hats. However in those fields, the
brand names set certain expectations.

The issue here is.. has Google made their Buzz 'brand' or mental image
synonymous with a facebook lite experience OR is it still in the air?
Personally I think it is still in the air, and we could use Buzz to
mean something completely different and make a strong story for it.


>  -- Bob
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[Robyn Bergeron]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Luke Slater <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hello all,
>
>  I've been developing Fedora Buzz but before I go much further we really need
>  to come up with a new name for it because of Google having a service of the
>  same name; several people have mentioned it recently.
>
>  I can't think of anything so if we could get some sort of brainstorming thread
>  going here?
>
>  If you can't remember or don't know about the project, you can read the wiki
>  page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz 
What about... Fedora Hive? Beekeeper? (I like the buzz theme... we can
sort of keep that notion, but change it a bit.)

>  Thanks a lot,
>
>  --
>  Luke Slater
>  :O)
>
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[Jef van Schendel]

2010/7/12, Robyn Bergeron <robyn.bergeron(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Luke Slater
> <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've been developing Fedora Buzz but before I go much further we really
> > need
> > to come up with a new name for it because of Google having a service of
> > the
> > same name; several people have mentioned it recently.
> >
> > I can't think of anything so if we could get some sort of brainstorming
> > thread
> > going here?
> >
> > If you can't remember or don't know about the project, you can read the
> > wiki
> > page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz
>
>  What about... Fedora Hive? Beekeeper? (I like the buzz theme... we can
>  sort of keep that notion, but change it a bit.) 
I love the sound of "Hive"!

Thinking of planets and all, if you want to measure "impact" and
movement of certain things, something around earthquakes might be fun.
Words like seismic, seismo(graph), epicenter, etc come to mind.

And the weather on a planet can be seen as mood, so maybe something to
do with climate, strato/atmosphere, barometers, etc.

Just throwing ideas out there. :)

Jef

[Neville A. Cross]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Jef van Schendel
<jefvanschendel(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  I love the sound of "Hive"!
>
>  Thinking of planets and all, if you want to measure "impact" and
>  movement of certain things, something around earthquakes might be fun.
>  Words like seismic, seismo(graph), epicenter, etc come to mind.
>
>  And the weather on a planet can be seen as mood, so maybe something to
>  do with climate, strato/atmosphere, barometers, etc.
>
>  Just throwing ideas out there. :)
>  
I like the sound of "hive"

I can associate this idea of social media with "echo" like hearing
what sounds bounce back. I also think about "waves" (Google is taking
all the words) as when you tap into the waters and you see the circles
grow larger and larger. "Ether" was a first approach to explain
electromagnetic waves carrying news.

And finally something dumb/funny ... "echosphere" as where the echos move.


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[Luke Slater]

On Monday 12 July 2010 23:40:14 Neville A. Cross wrote:
>  On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Jef van Schendel
>  
>  <jefvanschendel(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > I love the sound of "Hive"!
>  > 
>  > Thinking of planets and all, if you want to measure "impact" and
>  > movement of certain things, something around earthquakes might be fun.
>  > Words like seismic, seismo(graph), epicenter, etc come to mind.
>  > 
>  > And the weather on a planet can be seen as mood, so maybe something to
>  > do with climate, strato/atmosphere, barometers, etc.
>  > 
>  > Just throwing ideas out there. :)
>  
>  I like the sound of "hive"
>  
>  I can associate this idea of social media with "echo" like hearing
>  what sounds bounce back. I also think about "waves" (Google is taking
>  all the words) as when you tap into the waters and you see the circles
>  grow larger and larger. "Ether" was a first approach to explain
>  electromagnetic waves carrying news.
>  
>  And finally something dumb/funny ... "echosphere" as where the echos move.
I also agree, Hive is a really great name.  

In terms of Bob's accusation of 'total stupidity:' I don't think that you

understand the reason for changing the name. I'm not afraid of any recourse  
Google may have to throw but am merely concerned with creating a distinctive 
identity for the project. 

So the question is, as posed by Stephen, whether Google Buzz is well enough 
established that people will confuse the projects. I agree that it is rather 
up in the air at the moment, so perhaps Buzz is a name we can stick with.

Thanks,

-- 
Luke Slater
:O)

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Luke Slater <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hello all,
>
>  I've been developing Fedora Buzz but before I go much further we really need
>  to come up with a new name for it because of Google having a service of the
>  same name; several people have mentioned it recently.
>
>  I can't think of anything so if we could get some sort of brainstorming thread
>  going here?
>
>  If you can't remember or don't know about the project, you can read the wiki
>  page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz 
Where does one go to get the rumours in a company... the
coffeemaker/water cooler. Where does one go to get stuff going on in
an area.. the coffee house. What gives you a buzz in the morning,
coffee. What allows me insight into the world every day? Coffee. My
last tie-in was that my grandfather always drank his coffee with honey
which comes from bees that buzz.

Java X is pretty much out

Coffeehouse Software did not come up with anything but coffeehouse
might be rather long.

Camp coffee is a food product from Scotland.. but I didn't see a
tie-in with software though it is rather imperialistic.

Percolator is probably too nostalgic as its how coffee was made every
morning when I was a kid.

>  Thanks a lot,
>
>  --
>  Luke Slater
>  :O)
>
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-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
“The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.”
Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University.
"We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things.""
— Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines

[Beth Lynn Eicher]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Luke Slater
> <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've been developing Fedora Buzz but before I go much further we really need
> > to come up with a new name for it because of Google having a service of the
> > same name; several people have mentioned it recently.
> >
> > I can't think of anything so if we could get some sort of brainstorming thread
> > going here?
> >
> > If you can't remember or don't know about the project, you can read the wiki
> > page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz 
Submitted for consideration: The Feathered Fedora

any time anyone mentions us, it's another one in our cap.

Thanks,

Beth Lynn Eicher

[Beth Lynn Eicher]

Ideas thus far have been collected on the wiki...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz#Overview


Thanks,

Beth Lynn Eicher

[Pam Chestek]

Beth Lynn Eicher wrote on 07/12/2010 10:09 PM:
>  Ideas thus far have been collected on the wiki...
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Buzz#Overview
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Beth Lynn Eicher
>     
Once we've collected/whittled, we'll need to do legal clearance like we

do with the project names.

Pam

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