to throw on the f23 todo list

[Matthew Miller]

<https://getfedora.org/>'s headline "Fedora is now more focused" was
great for F21 (as the first three-edition release) and fine for F22 (as
an "edition polish" release), but for F23, we should have something new
to put there. (Ideally, something that could also stay for a year or
so.)

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Fedora Project Leader

[Joe Brockmeier]

On 05/27/2015 10:37 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  <https://getfedora.org/>'s headline "Fedora is now
> more focused" was
>  great for F21 (as the first three-edition release) and fine for F22 (as
>  an "edition polish" release), but for F23, we should have something new
>  to put there. (Ideally, something that could also stay for a year or
>  so.) 
Fedora: Now less focused.

Hrm. Probably not.

* Fedora is ready from the desktop to the cloud.

(I've been thinking we could start telling a story with F23 that begins
with the Workstation developer story, then deploying to a cloud running
on Server.)

Best,

jzb
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[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:59:18AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  (I've been thinking we could start telling a story with F23 that
> begins
>  with the Workstation developer story, then deploying to a cloud running
>  on Server.) 
That implies an OpenStack role for Server. :)


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[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:13:53AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:59:18AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  > (I've been thinking we could start telling a story with F23 that begins
>  > with the Workstation developer story, then deploying to a cloud running
>  > on Server.)
>  That implies an OpenStack role for Server. :) 
That smiley is short for "Which I don't think is necessarily a bad
idea, but a gigantic amount of work."

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Fedora Project Leader

[Joe Brockmeier]

On 05/27/2015 11:14 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  That smiley is short for "Which I don't think is necessarily
> a bad
>  idea, but a gigantic amount of work." 
Is it? I think OpenShift Origin can be containerized, which might just
mean the OpenShift container running on Server?
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[Scott Dowdle]

Greetings,

----- Original Message -----
>  On 05/27/2015 11:14 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  > That smiley is short for "Which I don't think is necessarily a bad
>  > idea, but a gigantic amount of work."
>  
>  Is it? I think OpenShift Origin can be containerized, which might
>  just mean the OpenShift container running on Server? 
Just so we continue to stay off topic... the RancherVM is a project for Docker-izing KVM
VMs... so sure... you can run anything as a container if you want to.  Yes, even Microsoft
Windows.

TYL,
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[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:15:27AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  > That smiley is short for "Which I don't think is
> necessarily a bad
>  > idea, but a gigantic amount of work."
>  Is it? I think OpenShift Origin can be containerized, which might just
>  mean the OpenShift container running on Server? 
*nod* Yes could be openshift rather than openstack. Maybe less work,
still lotta work.


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Fedora Project Leader

[Robyn Bergeron]

On May 27, 2015 8:15 AM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jzb(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 05/27/2015 11:14 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  > That smiley is short for "Which I don't think is necessarily a bad
>  > idea, but a gigantic amount of work."
>
>  Is it? I think OpenShift Origin can be containerized, which might just
>  mean the OpenShift container running on Server? 
I think he said OpenStack, not OpenShift, but, YAY CLOUD.

You could, however, use the Kolla project from OpenStack to deploy an
OpenStack cloud in containers, which then launch VMs for your
cat-picture-meme-app or whatever.

Which pretty much goes like:

* run a few scripts, currently being made into ansible playbooks (mostly,
"download pre-made containers" and a few other things)
* run playbook to launch said containers, which magically make a working
OpenStack cloud
* YAY, cloud

Not out of reach. Or hard. Probably not production ready either, but.... it
works :)

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[Joe Brockmeier]

On 05/27/2015 11:37 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
>  I think he said OpenStack, not OpenShift, but, YAY CLOUD. 
Yeah... my bad, there's way too much OpenS going on and also when I see
or think Container my brain translates OpenS--- to OpenShift.

>  You could, however, use the Kolla project from OpenStack to deploy
> an
>  OpenStack cloud in containers, which then launch VMs for your
>  cat-picture-meme-app or whatever.
>  
>  Which pretty much goes like:
>  
>  * run a few scripts, currently being made into ansible playbooks
>  (mostly, "download pre-made containers" and a few other things)
>  * run playbook to launch said containers, which magically make a working
>  OpenStack cloud
>  * YAY, cloud
>  
>  Not out of reach. Or hard. Probably not production ready either, but....
>  it works :) 
Yeah, Kolla would be another option. Or both. We can cloudy cloud cloud
multiple ways!

Best,

jzb
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[Robyn Bergeron]

On May 27, 2015 7:59 AM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jzb(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 05/27/2015 10:37 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  > <https://getfedora.org/>'s headline "Fedora is now more focused"
> was
>  > great for F21 (as the first three-edition release) and fine for F22 (as
>  > an "edition polish" release), but for F23, we should have something new
>  > to put there. (Ideally, something that could also stay for a year or
>  > so.)
>
>  Fedora: Now less focused.
>
>  Hrm. Probably not.
>
>  * Fedora is ready from the desktop to the cloud.
>
>  (I've been thinking we could start telling a story with F23 that begins
>  with the Workstation developer story, then deploying to a cloud running
>  on Server.) 
Fedora 23: Develop, Deploy, Deliver.

Fedora 23: OMG CONTAINERS ON ALL THE THINGS

Yep, I think that covers my suggestions :)

- robyn

>  Best,
>
>  jzb
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[Joe Brockmeier]

On 05/27/2015 11:26 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
>  Fedora 23: Develop, Deploy, Deliver.
>  
>  Fedora 23: OMG CONTAINERS ON ALL THE THINGS 
I like both of those.
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[Máirín Duffy]

On 05/27/2015 11:31 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  On 05/27/2015 11:26 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> > Fedora 23: Develop, Deploy, Deliver.
> >
> > Fedora 23: OMG CONTAINERS ON ALL THE THINGS
>
>  I like both of those. 
+++++++

~m

[Robyn Bergeron]

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On 05/27/2015 11:31 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> >
> > On 05/27/2015 11:26 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> >>
> >> Fedora 23: Develop, Deploy, Deliver.
> >>
> >> Fedora 23: OMG CONTAINERS ON ALL THE THINGS
> >
> >
> > I like both of those.
>
>
>  +++++++
>
>  ~m 
One American Dollar to the amazing person who makes the latter appear
on April Fools' Day.

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 08:26:06AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
>  Fedora 23: Develop, Deploy, Deliver. 
Nice!

>  Fedora 23: OMG CONTAINERS ON ALL THE THINGS 
Maybe for F24 or F25 :)

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Fedora Project Leader

[Glen Rundblom]

What about:

Fedora 23: Cloud to Ground Development (with some kind of fedora like 
lightning bolt)
Fedora 23: Container containment cloud centralized.


On 5/27/15 10:56 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 08:26:06AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> > Fedora 23: Develop, Deploy, Deliver.
>  Nice!
>
> > Fedora 23: OMG CONTAINERS ON ALL THE THINGS
>  Maybe for F24 or F25 :)
>

[Joe Brockmeier]

On 05/27/2015 01:02 PM, Glen Rundblom wrote:
>  
>  Fedora 23: Cloud to Ground Development (with some kind of fedora like
>  lightning bolt) 
Wouldn't it be more like Ground to Cloud?

/me pictures a "Creation of Adam"-like image with a developer touching
fingers with the cloud and lots of little angelic containers...

>  Fedora 23: Container containment cloud centralized. 

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