Re: FWN: Facebook page

[Pascal Calarco]

Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:47:26AM -0400, Pascal Calarco wrote:
>    
> > I thought I would try to raise the visibility of FWN a bit by creating a  
> > Facebook page for FWN, as a 'communications product' type of Fan page.   
> > Not high impact, but another vector that advances the publication, the  
> > project, and the brand. 
> >
> > Suggestions and revisions most welcome!
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Weekly-News/33564906746
> >     
>
>  The splintering of pages on Facebook continues to be an issue with a
>  lot of FB users.  Have you considered getting added to the existing
>  Fedora groups somehow, and submitting stories to those pages instead?
>
>  http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=11454680248&ref=ts 
>  http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=2205138518&ref=ts
>
>  I don't know that much about Facebook groups and how they operate, so
>  maybe there's a way to "subscribe" your group to the others, in which
>  case it wouldn't matter whether it's separate or not.  Good luck!
>     
Agreed.  Search for 'Fedora' in Facebook and you get many pages with a 
wide variety of utility and authority.  Perhaps a few of us in the 
marketing list could work on what Paul suggests here?  Anyone up for 
this?  There is also a semi-official Fedora Ambassadors page on FB that 
would be good if it could be made official.

  - pascal

FWN: Facebook page

[Larry Cafiero]

Hi, Pascal --

I got onto Facebook by accident several months ago -- a friend wanted
me to see something, so I signed on not thinking I was signing into FB
-- but find it to be somewhat helpful in getting the word out to
like-minded communities.

I am in some of the Fedora groups on FB -- even bestowed administrator
status on one -- but I haven't seen the Fedora Ambassador one. Care to
point it out?

Thanks for starting a FWN fan group -- I'm in.

Larry Cafiero

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Pascal Calarco <pcalarco(a)nd.edu&gt; wrote:
>  Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:47:26AM -0400, Pascal Calarco wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I thought I would try to raise the visibility of FWN a bit by creating a
> >>  Facebook page for FWN, as a 'communications product' type of Fan page.
> >> Not high impact, but another vector that advances the publication, the
> >>  project, and the brand.
> >> Suggestions and revisions most welcome!
> >>
> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Weekly-News/33564906746
> >>
> >
> > The splintering of pages on Facebook continues to be an issue with a
> > lot of FB users.  Have you considered getting added to the existing
> > Fedora groups somehow, and submitting stories to those pages instead?
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=11454680248&ref=ts
> > http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=2205138518&ref=ts
> >
> > I don't know that much about Facebook groups and how they operate, so
> > maybe there's a way to "subscribe" your group to the others, in which
> > case it wouldn't matter whether it's separate or not.  Good luck!
> >
>
>  Agreed.  Search for 'Fedora' in Facebook and you get many pages with a wide
>  variety of utility and authority.  Perhaps a few of us in the marketing list
>  could work on what Paul suggests here?  Anyone up for this?  There is also a
>  semi-official Fedora Ambassadors page on FB that would be good if it could
>  be made official.
>
>   - pascal
>
>  --
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>

FWN: Facebook page

[Pascal Calarco]

Hi Larry --

Larry Cafiero wrote:
>  Hi, Pascal --
>
>  I got onto Facebook by accident several months ago -- a friend wanted
>  me to see something, so I signed on not thinking I was signing into FB
>  -- but find it to be somewhat helpful in getting the word out to
>  like-minded communities.
>
>  I am in some of the Fedora groups on FB -- even bestowed administrator
>  status on one -- but I haven't seen the Fedora Ambassador one. Care to
>  point it out?
>    
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=686647657&ref=profile#/group.p...

Thanks!

  - pascal

FWN: Facebook page

[Pascal Calarco]

One further suggestion on aggregating Fedora Facebook pages:

One successful approach I have seen used is to create a central resource 
page that points to the endorsed related and subpages/groups.  We could 
provide links to the pages the official project endorses to give them 
more authority, and work with owners of those groups to provide 
backlinks back to the central page.

The Fedora Linux groups on Facebook that I can find are:

Fedora Core Rocks!
http://www.facebook.com/groups/edit.php?members&gid=2205138518
1030 members
Admin/owner: Steve Hurley (Salem State)

Fedora Core Users
http://www.facebook.com/groups/edit.php?members&gid=2216011142
446 members
Admin/owner: Omar Saleem 
<http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=505520612> (Herndon High) 
/ Camilo Mesias <http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=656174051> 
(Leicester)

Fedora Bangaldesh
http://www.facebook.com/groups/edit.php?members&gid=15219484140
95 members
Admin/owner: Mahay Alam Khan 
<http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=680514318> (BdOSN) / 
Imtiaz Rahi <http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=596281806> 
(Bangladesh)
links to fedorabd(a)yahoo.com

Fedora - Linux
http://www.facebook.com/groups/edit.php?members&gid=11454680248
291 members
Admins/owners include Paul Frields & Larry Cafiero
*This should likely be the official page*

Fedora-fr (France)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/edit.php?members&gid=20097201496
55 users
Admins/owners: Guillaume Kulakowski 
<http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=574091357> (France) / 
Johan Cwiklinski 
<http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=753358560> (France)
links to http://www.fedora-fr.org/

Fedora 8 Warewolf ES
http://www.facebook.com/groups/edit.php?members&gid=5916177534
36 users
Admins/owners: Alejandro Moncada (Universidad Nacional de Colombia) / Z. 
Alejandro Rincon Linares 
<http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=590701965> (Colombia)

Fedora & linux
http://www.facebook.com/groups/edit.php?members&gid=10370701652
36 members
Admins/owners: Oshan Channaka Rubesinghe 
<http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=1099665384> (Trinity College)

Fedora Weekly News
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Weekly-News/33564906746
3 members
Admin/owner: Pascal Calarco (Notre Dame)

So this isn't a huge job to aggregate some of these.  The regional 
groups (France and Bangadesh) are nice to encourage, IMO.  Some of the 
smaller groups could be encouraged to disband if they aren't active, if 
we wanted to be a bit more hands-on with this.  We could actively post 
on the other groups, encouraging folks to join the official page as well.

  - pascal

Larry Cafiero wrote:
>  Hi, Pascal --
>
>  I got onto Facebook by accident several months ago -- a friend wanted
>  me to see something, so I signed on not thinking I was signing into FB
>  -- but find it to be somewhat helpful in getting the word out to
>  like-minded communities.
>
>  I am in some of the Fedora groups on FB -- even bestowed administrator
>  status on one -- but I haven't seen the Fedora Ambassador one. Care to
>  point it out?
>
>  Thanks for starting a FWN fan group -- I'm in.
>
>  Larry Cafiero
>
>  On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Pascal Calarco <pcalarco(a)nd.edu&gt; wrote:
>    
> > Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >     
> >> On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:47:26AM -0400, Pascal Calarco wrote:
> >>
> >>       
> >>> I thought I would try to raise the visibility of FWN a bit by creating a
> >>>  Facebook page for FWN, as a 'communications product' type of Fan
> page.
> >>> Not high impact, but another vector that advances the publication, the
> >>>  project, and the brand.
> >>> Suggestions and revisions most welcome!
> >>>
> >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Weekly-News/33564906746
> >>>
> >>>         
> >> The splintering of pages on Facebook continues to be an issue with a
> >> lot of FB users.  Have you considered getting added to the existing
> >> Fedora groups somehow, and submitting stories to those pages instead?
> >>
> >> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=11454680248&ref=ts
> >> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=2205138518&ref=ts
> >>
> >> I don't know that much about Facebook groups and how they operate, so
> >> maybe there's a way to "subscribe" your group to the others, in
> which
> >> case it wouldn't matter whether it's separate or not.  Good luck!
> >>
> >>       
> > Agreed.  Search for 'Fedora' in Facebook and you get many pages with a wide
> > variety of utility and authority.  Perhaps a few of us in the marketing list
> > could work on what Paul suggests here?  Anyone up for this?  There is also a
> > semi-official Fedora Ambassadors page on FB that would be good if it could
> > be made official.
> >
> >  - pascal
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list
> > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
> >
> >     
>
>

FWN: Facebook page

[Benjamin Lewis]

Pascal Calarco wrote:
>  Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:47:26AM -0400, Pascal Calarco wrote:
> >  
> >> I thought I would try to raise the visibility of FWN a bit by
> >> creating a  Facebook page for FWN, as a 'communications product' type
> >> of Fan page.   Not high impact, but another vector that advances the
> >> publication, the  project, and the brand.
> >> Suggestions and revisions most welcome!
> >>
> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Weekly-News/33564906746
> >>     
> >
> > The splintering of pages on Facebook continues to be an issue with a
> > lot of FB users.  Have you considered getting added to the existing
> > Fedora groups somehow, and submitting stories to those pages instead?
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=11454680248&ref=ts
> > http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=2205138518&ref=ts
> >
> > I don't know that much about Facebook groups and how they operate, so
> > maybe there's a way to "subscribe" your group to the others, in which
> > case it wouldn't matter whether it's separate or not.  Good luck!
> >   
>  Agreed.  Search for 'Fedora' in Facebook and you get many pages with a
>  wide variety of utility and authority.  Perhaps a few of us in the
>  marketing list could work on what Paul suggests here?  Anyone up for
>  this?  There is also a semi-official Fedora Ambassadors page on FB that
>  would be good if it could be made official.
>  
>   - pascal
>   
The Ambassadors Group was set up by me and does need some TLC tbh. Maybe
we could have a "Social Networking" SIG or something similar to
co-ordinate this and other forms - e.g. Twitter-like services?

-- 

Benjamin Lewis
ben.lewis(a)benl.co.uk

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social marketing (Re: FWN: Facebook page)

[Karsten Wade]

On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:46 +0100, Benjamin Lewis wrote:

>  Maybe
>  we could have a "Social Networking" SIG or something similar to
>  co-ordinate this and other forms - e.g. Twitter-like services? 
Hey, you just described the Marketing group!

Seriously, let's get something about coordinating and how-tos around all
the social networks, from Digg to Twitter.  Add it to the
Marketing/Tasks.  Maybe set some goals around exposure and connection
for Fedora 10.  For example, our focus on Digg'ing really improved in
the Fedora 9 release.

Anyone passionate about social networking/marketing and wants to work on
that?

- Karsten
-- 
Karsten Wade, Community Gardener
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Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
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social marketing (Re: FWN: Facebook page)

[Benjamin Lewis]

Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>  On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:46 +0100, Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>  
> > Maybe
> > we could have a "Social Networking" SIG or something similar to
> > co-ordinate this and other forms - e.g. Twitter-like services?
>  
>  Hey, you just described the Marketing group!
>  
>  Seriously, let's get something about coordinating and how-tos around all
>  the social networks, from Digg to Twitter.  Add it to the
>  Marketing/Tasks.  Maybe set some goals around exposure and connection
>  for Fedora 10.  For example, our focus on Digg'ing really improved in
>  the Fedora 9 release.
>  
>  Anyone passionate about social networking/marketing and wants to work on
>  that? 
I would be willing to work on this. A cursory glance at the wiki turns
up a list of Social Networks[1]. I believe it would be worth starting
with fleshing this out (a 'complete' list of Facebook groups etc.) and
assigning managers and the like.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SocialNetworks

Oh and I'll add a task too :)

-- 

Benjamin Lewis
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social marketing (Re: FWN: Facebook page)

[Pascal Calarco]

Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote
>  Seriously, let's get something about coordinating and how-tos
> around all
>  the social networks, from Digg to Twitter.  Add it to the
>  Marketing/Tasks.  Maybe set some goals around exposure and connection
>  for Fedora 10.  For example, our focus on Digg'ing really improved in
>  the Fedora 9 release.
>
>  Anyone passionate about social networking/marketing and wants to work on
>  that?
>     
I'd love to work on this as well -- count me in.

  - pascal

social marketing (Re: FWN: Facebook page)

[Alejandro Acosta]

+1

Only 1 thing to add:  I've been using FB for a while and actually joined
some Fedora groups; Ambassadors was the latest.

I think we could also create a network -not only a group- of Fedora fans, to
enforce our presence. Just like there are networks for RedHat, IBM or Sun
Microsystems or countries, just to mention some of them, we could create our
own network and "engross" our membership.

I don't know if I transmitted the right message but I guess that what I
finally wanted to express is that networks highlight the feeling of
"belonging"

Just a thought

- Alejandro Acosta


2008/10/5 Karsten 'quaid' Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;

>  On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:46 +0100, Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>
>  > Maybe
>  > we could have a "Social Networking" SIG or something similar to
>  > co-ordinate this and other forms - e.g. Twitter-like services?
>
>  Hey, you just described the Marketing group!
>
>  Seriously, let's get something about coordinating and how-tos around all
>  the social networks, from Digg to Twitter.  Add it to the
>  Marketing/Tasks.  Maybe set some goals around exposure and connection
>  for Fedora 10.  For example, our focus on Digg'ing really improved in
>  the Fedora 9 release.
>
>  Anyone passionate about social networking/marketing and wants to work on
>  that?
>
>  - Karsten
>  --
>  Karsten Wade, Community Gardener
>  Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com
>  Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
>  gpg key : AD0E0C41
>
>  --
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>  Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com
>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
>

social marketing (Re: FWN: Facebook page)

[Max Spevack]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:

>  Seriously, let's get something about coordinating and how-tos
> around 
>  all the social networks, from Digg to Twitter.  Add it to the 
>  Marketing/Tasks.  Maybe set some goals around exposure and connection 
>  for Fedora 10.  For example, our focus on Digg'ing really improved in 
>  the Fedora 9 release.
>
>  Anyone passionate about social networking/marketing and wants to work 
>  on that? 
+1 on doing this in the Fedora Marketing group and *not* creating Yet 
Another SIG.

--Max

social marketing (Re: FWN: Facebook page)

[Benjamin Lewis]

Max Spevack wrote:
>  On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>  
> > Seriously, let's get something about coordinating and how-tos around
> > all the social networks, from Digg to Twitter.  Add it to the
> > Marketing/Tasks.  Maybe set some goals around exposure and connection
> > for Fedora 10.  For example, our focus on Digg'ing really improved in
> > the Fedora 9 release.
> >
> > Anyone passionate about social networking/marketing and wants to work
> > on that?
>  
>  +1 on doing this in the Fedora Marketing group and *not* creating Yet
>  Another SIG.
>  
>  --Max
>   
Fair enough. Would it be better to create a todo list or something
similar as part of Marketing/SocialNetworks or as a new page
Marketing/SocialNetworks/Todo?

-- 

Benjamin Lewis
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social marketing (Re: FWN: Facebook page)

[Max Spevack]

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Benjamin Lewis wrote:

>  Fair enough. Would it be better to create a todo list or something 
>  similar as part of Marketing/SocialNetworks or as a new page 
>  Marketing/SocialNetworks/Todo? 
I just think it would be wise to have this an an agenda item in our 
larger Fedora Marketing meetings, to keep as many people in the loop as 
possible.  Why not make it part of the master Fedora Marketing to do 
list?

Ultimately, whatever you think makes the most sense is fine.

--Max