Need to do something about Freemedia India.

[susmit shannigrahi]

Hi all,

This is about current condition of Freemedia _India_.
Saying in a line... It is badly messed up.

Counting from Dec 2007 to March 2008 we have *17* fulfilled request
and ~380 pending requests.
That indicates only one thing, its going to shut down in near future.

So lets do something about it.

My suggestions are

1. Let's gather from contributors how many DVDs are available for the
month and accept that many requests only.
For that we can give contributors a week's time to declare and then
open the request form.
For a month if there is no contributor, there will be no requests.
However, thats not going to increase the quantity of media.
But this will ensure all requests are fulfilled.

2. Lets make posting of Blank Media compulsory for requesting Freemedia.
Thats going to cost INR 20-25 at max.
Well, that will create a negative impression no doubt, but the current
situation is not bright either.
For those who genuinely want to use Fedora but don't have that much
bandwidth, it may be helpful.


Any other suggestions?




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[subhodip biswas]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM, susmit shannigrahi
<thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>   This is about current condition of Freemedia _India_.
>   Saying in a line... It is badly messed up.
>
>   Counting from Dec 2007 to March 2008 we have *17* fulfilled request
>   and ~380 pending requests.
>   That indicates only one thing, its going to shut down in near future.
>
>   So lets do something about it.
>
>   My suggestions are
>
>   1. Let's gather from contributors how many DVDs are available for the
>   month and accept that many requests only. 
+1 for that . Loads of pending request discourage users

>   For that we can give contributors a week's time to declare and
> then
>   open the request form.
>   For a month if there is no contributor, there will be no requests.
>   However, thats not going to increase the quantity of media.
>   But this will ensure all requests are fulfilled.
>
>   2. Lets make posting of Blank Media compulsory for requesting Freemedia.
>   Thats going to cost INR 20-25 at max.
>   Well, that will create a negative impression no doubt, but the current
>   situation is not bright either. 
A suggestion may be is to have regional requests as as to break up
requests into modules .this actually lowers the load on free media
team .
Existing fedora ambassadors may help in this .

>   For those who genuinely want to use Fedora but don't have that
> much
>   bandwidth, it may be helpful.
>
>
>   Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>   --
>   Regards,
>   Susmit.
>
>   =============================================
>   ssh
>   0x86DD170A
>   http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>   =============================================
>  



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[Siddharth Upmanyu]

On 3/16/08, subhodip biswas <subhodip(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM, susmit shannigrahi
>   <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>   > Hi all,
>   >
>   >  This is about current condition of Freemedia _India_.
>   >  Saying in a line... It is badly messed up.
>   >
>   >  Counting from Dec 2007 to March 2008 we have *17* fulfilled request
>   >  and ~380 pending requests.
>   >  That indicates only one thing, its going to shut down in near future.
>   >
>   >  So lets do something about it.
>   >
>   >  My suggestions are
>   >
>   >  1. Let's gather from contributors how many DVDs are available for the
>   >  month and accept that many requests only.
>
>
>  +1 for that . Loads of pending request discourage users
>
>
>   >  For that we can give contributors a week's time to declare and then
>   >  open the request form.
>   >  For a month if there is no contributor, there will be no requests.
>   >  However, thats not going to increase the quantity of media.
>   >  But this will ensure all requests are fulfilled.
>   >
>   >  2. Lets make posting of Blank Media compulsory for requesting Freemedia.
>   >  Thats going to cost INR 20-25 at max.
>   >  Well, that will create a negative impression no doubt, but the current
>   >  situation is not bright either.
>
>
>  A suggestion may be is to have regional requests as as to break up
>   requests into modules .this actually lowers the load on free media
>   team .
>   Existing fedora ambassadors may help in this .
>
>
>   >  For those who genuinely want to use Fedora but don't have that much
>   >  bandwidth, it may be helpful.
>   >
>   >
>   >  Any other suggestions?
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >  --
>   >  Regards,
>   >  Susmit.
>   >
>   >  =============================================
>   >  ssh
>   >  0x86DD170A
>   >  http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>   >  =============================================
>   >
>
>
>
>
>   --
>
>  Regards
>   Subhodip Biswas
>
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>   Server : pgp.mit.edu
>   http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com
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The Most obvious problem is contribution... we have very less active
India Ambassadors and there appears no real solution in near future...
as it is initiated.. to send a blank media  .. should be an option not
a requirement (my view) ..

as i see it we first need a saparate freemedia request form where we
can put proper information and restrictions.. i can work like this :
1. in the last week of every month we (India Ambassadors) decide on
freemedia capacity
2. when the form open the decided number of requests are allowed .
3. when the limit is reached .. the users are given option to send a
blank media with return envelop to get the Fedora Media

Regards
Siddharth

[gopal das]

Thank you Susmith, thank you Siddharth. "Blank media and return envelop"
idea is good. We can make a decision if we make us available for a meeting
in near future at fedora-india irc. A long gap  when we do not arrange a
meeting. And I also have some topic to discuss regarding some fedora
training program at schools. I have already started some initiative
regarding this but I like to discuss the matter with other Indian
ambassadors. So please fix up a date for a meeting so that we can made it
more prominent.

Cheers
Gopal Das

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Siddharth Upmanyu <siddharth(a)techbugs.org&gt;
wrote:

>  On 3/16/08, subhodip biswas <subhodip(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
> wrote:
>  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM, susmit shannigrahi
>  >  <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >  > Hi all,
>  >  >
>  >  >  This is about current condition of Freemedia _India_.
>  >  >  Saying in a line... It is badly messed up.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Counting from Dec 2007 to March 2008 we have *17* fulfilled request
>  >  >  and ~380 pending requests.
>  >  >  That indicates only one thing, its going to shut down in near
>  future.
>  >  >
>  >  >  So lets do something about it.
>  >  >
>  >  >  My suggestions are
>  >  >
>  >  >  1. Let's gather from contributors how many DVDs are available for
>  the
>  >  >  month and accept that many requests only.
>  >
>  >
>  > +1 for that . Loads of pending request discourage users
>  >
>  >
>  >  >  For that we can give contributors a week's time to declare and then
>  >  >  open the request form.
>  >  >  For a month if there is no contributor, there will be no requests.
>  >  >  However, thats not going to increase the quantity of media.
>  >  >  But this will ensure all requests are fulfilled.
>  >  >
>  >  >  2. Lets make posting of Blank Media compulsory for requesting
>  Freemedia.
>  >  >  Thats going to cost INR 20-25 at max.
>  >  >  Well, that will create a negative impression no doubt, but the
>  current
>  >  >  situation is not bright either.
>  >
>  >
>  > A suggestion may be is to have regional requests as as to break up
>  >  requests into modules .this actually lowers the load on free media
>  >  team .
>  >  Existing fedora ambassadors may help in this .
>  >
>  >
>  >  >  For those who genuinely want to use Fedora but don't have that much
>  >  >  bandwidth, it may be helpful.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  Any other suggestions?
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  --
>  >  >  Regards,
>  >  >  Susmit.
>  >  >
>  >  >  =============================================
>  >  >  ssh
>  >  >  0x86DD170A
>  >  >  http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>  >  >  =============================================
>  >  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >
>  > Regards
>  >  Subhodip Biswas
>  >
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>  >  Server : pgp.mit.edu
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>  >
>
>  The Most obvious problem is contribution... we have very less active
>  India Ambassadors and there appears no real solution in near future...
>  as it is initiated.. to send a blank media  .. should be an option not
>  a requirement (my view) ..
>
>  as i see it we first need a saparate freemedia request form where we
>  can put proper information and restrictions.. i can work like this :
>  1. in the last week of every month we (India Ambassadors) decide on
>  freemedia capacity
>  2. when the form open the decided number of requests are allowed .
>  3. when the limit is reached .. the users are given option to send a
>  blank media with return envelop to get the Fedora Media
>
>  Regards
>  Siddharth
>
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[Eugene Teo]

<quote sender="gopal das">
>  Thank you Susmith, thank you Siddharth. "Blank media and return
> envelop"
>  idea is good. We can make a decision if we make us available for a meeting
>  in near future at fedora-india irc. A long gap  when we do not arrange a
>  meeting. And I also have some topic to discuss regarding some fedora
>  training program at schools. I have already started some initiative
>  regarding this but I like to discuss the matter with other Indian
>  ambassadors. So please fix up a date for a meeting so that we can made it
>  more prominent. 
Is it possible to work with the local Linux magazine publishers like
LinuxForU to see if they can bundle the Fedora DVD with their magazine?
I believe the magazine is affordable to most, and this can help lighten
the media request load.

Eugene

>  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Siddharth Upmanyu
> <siddharth(a)techbugs.org&gt;
>  wrote:
>  
>  > On 3/16/08, subhodip biswas <subhodip(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM, susmit shannigrahi
>  > >  <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > >  > Hi all,
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  This is about current condition of Freemedia _India_.
>  > >  >  Saying in a line... It is badly messed up.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Counting from Dec 2007 to March 2008 we have *17* fulfilled request
>  > >  >  and ~380 pending requests.
>  > >  >  That indicates only one thing, its going to shut down in near
>  > future.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  So lets do something about it.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  My suggestions are
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  1. Let's gather from contributors how many DVDs are available for
>  > the
>  > >  >  month and accept that many requests only.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > +1 for that . Loads of pending request discourage users
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  >  For that we can give contributors a week's time to declare and then
>  > >  >  open the request form.
>  > >  >  For a month if there is no contributor, there will be no requests.
>  > >  >  However, thats not going to increase the quantity of media.
>  > >  >  But this will ensure all requests are fulfilled.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  2. Lets make posting of Blank Media compulsory for requesting
>  > Freemedia.
>  > >  >  Thats going to cost INR 20-25 at max.
>  > >  >  Well, that will create a negative impression no doubt, but the
>  > current
>  > >  >  situation is not bright either.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > A suggestion may be is to have regional requests as as to break up
>  > >  requests into modules .this actually lowers the load on free media
>  > >  team .
>  > >  Existing fedora ambassadors may help in this .
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  >  For those who genuinely want to use Fedora but don't have that much
>  > >  >  bandwidth, it may be helpful.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Any other suggestions?
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  --
>  > >  >  Regards,
>  > >  >  Susmit.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  =============================================
>  > >  >  ssh
>  > >  >  0x86DD170A
>  > >  >  http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>  > >  >  =============================================
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  --
>  > >
>  > > Regards
>  > >  Subhodip Biswas
>  > >
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>  > >  Server : pgp.mit.edu
>  > >  http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com
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>  >
>  > The Most obvious problem is contribution... we have very less active
>  > India Ambassadors and there appears no real solution in near future...
>  > as it is initiated.. to send a blank media  .. should be an option not
>  > a requirement (my view) ..
>  >
>  > as i see it we first need a saparate freemedia request form where we
>  > can put proper information and restrictions.. i can work like this :
>  > 1. in the last week of every month we (India Ambassadors) decide on
>  > freemedia capacity
>  > 2. when the form open the decided number of requests are allowed .
>  > 3. when the limit is reached .. the users are given option to send a
>  > blank media with return envelop to get the Fedora Media
>  >
>  > Regards
>  > Siddharth
>  >
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[Rahul Sundaram]

Eugene Teo wrote:
>  <quote sender="gopal das">
> > Thank you Susmith, thank you Siddharth. "Blank media and return envelop"
> > idea is good. We can make a decision if we make us available for a meeting
> > in near future at fedora-india irc. A long gap  when we do not arrange a
> > meeting. And I also have some topic to discuss regarding some fedora
> > training program at schools. I have already started some initiative
> > regarding this but I like to discuss the matter with other Indian
> > ambassadors. So please fix up a date for a meeting so that we can made it
> > more prominent.
>  
>  Is it possible to work with the local Linux magazine publishers like
>  LinuxForU to see if they can bundle the Fedora DVD with their magazine?
>  I believe the magazine is affordable to most, and this can help lighten
>  the media request load. 
Linux For You already includes every release of Fedora the month after 
it has been released IIRC. Fedora is pretty popular in India but LFY 
doesn't reach everywhere and people are not aware of the magazine of 
that it includes Fedora for that particular month. Pointing more people 
to magazines like this is a pretty good idea and one I have done so 
personally on a few occasions.

Rahul