Hello everyone,
On the Monday's meeting[1] we discussed about creating a new category and adding it in the main menu of the Fedora Magazine. In this new category we can choose every week an article from Fedora Planet, and publish it in the magazine as well. Roshi stepped forward on this, and said he can choose articles from the planet
Thoughts/flames?
Zacharias
[1] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-10-28/fedora_marketing....
Hi,
I think it's a good idea, and also would like to add few more items-ideas:
- Package-app selections from repository - introductions, descriptions (search in google plus for #dailypackage hash) - Packagers/QA/Translations wishlist - Testing days
Thoughts?
Zoltan
2013/10/29 Zacharias Mitzelos zacharias.mitzelos@gmail.com
Hello everyone,
On the Monday's meeting[1] we discussed about creating a new category and adding it in the main menu of the Fedora Magazine. In this new category we can choose every week an article from Fedora Planet, and publish it in the magazine as well. Roshi stepped forward on this, and said he can choose articles from the planet
Thoughts/flames?
Zacharias
[1] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-10-28/fedora_marketing....
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Hi,
I think it's a good idea, and also would like to add few more items-ideas:
- Package-app selections from repository - introductions, descriptions (search in google plus for #dailypackage hash)
- Packagers/QA/Translations wishlist
- Testing days
+1
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:01:57PM +0200, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:
Hello everyone,
On the Monday's meeting[1] we discussed about creating a new category and adding it in the main menu of the Fedora Magazine. In this new category we can choose every week an article from Fedora Planet, and publish it in the magazine as well. Roshi stepped forward on this, and said he can choose articles from the planet
Thoughts/flames?
Don't forget comments. ;-)
Quick thought: Do we have permission to republish material that appears on the Planet to the magazine? Skimming the Planet Howto I don't see that we grant permission for forklifting materials from our blog to another publication. It may seem like a triviality/formality, but it's possible that we'd annoy a contributor if we post something on the magazine without asking first.
So, we plan to ask first, right?
Best,
jzb
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:45:01 -0500 Joe Brockmeier jzb@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:01:57PM +0200, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:
Hello everyone,
On the Monday's meeting[1] we discussed about creating a new category and adding it in the main menu of the Fedora Magazine. In this new category we can choose every week an article from Fedora Planet, and publish it in the magazine as well. Roshi stepped forward on this, and said he can choose articles from the planet
Thoughts/flames?
Don't forget comments. ;-)
Quick thought: Do we have permission to republish material that appears on the Planet to the magazine? Skimming the Planet Howto I don't see that we grant permission for forklifting materials from our blog to another publication. It may seem like a triviality/formality, but it's possible that we'd annoy a contributor if we post something on the magazine without asking first.
So, we plan to ask first, right?
Best,
jzb
My thoughts initially (not sure if I actually *said* anything about it though) were to find some posts we liked, vote which we wanted to publish for the week then contact the person who wrote it and see if they minded. This might help out with people wanting to be part of marketing and the magazine. Was also thinking we could get a badge made for it :)
In response to Zoltan, I think the package selection is a great idea. I was actually pondering something similar. I've learned a great deal from the Python Module of the Week [1] and thought it might be fun (though time consuming) to do something with Fedora packages or tools - like deltaisos. Those are awesome.
Test days I'm working to get more coverage of for sure. Good thoughts all around I think.
// Roshi
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 08:44:47PM -0600, Mike Ruckman wrote:
My thoughts initially (not sure if I actually *said* anything about it though) were to find some posts we liked, vote which we wanted to publish for the week then contact the person who wrote it and see if they minded. This might help out with people wanting to be part of marketing and the magazine. Was also thinking we could get a badge made for it :)
A badge for the editing, or people who had their post chosen? "Gold Star Blog Post" or something might be cool.
Not sure voting is necessary - if someone is taking point on this, we should empower them to run with it, IMHO. (And if there's 2+ excellent posts, why limit things? Re-running all of Planet would be excessive, but if we find N+1 great posts in a week and the authors are OK with reposts, then cool by me.)
In response to Zoltan, I think the package selection is a great idea. I was actually pondering something similar. I've learned a great deal from the Python Module of the Week [1] and thought it might be fun (though time consuming) to do something with Fedora packages or tools - like deltaisos. Those are awesome.
+1
Test days I'm working to get more coverage of for sure. Good thoughts all around I think.
Yes please.
Best,
jzb
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 01:31:23AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Not sure voting is necessary - if someone is taking point on this, we should empower them to run with it, IMHO. (And if there's 2+ excellent posts, why limit things? Re-running all of Planet would be excessive, but if we find N+1 great posts in a week and the authors are OK with reposts, then cool by me.)
Honestly, I don't think it'd hurt to rerun all of the directly-Fedora-relevant content from the planet. Possibly this could even be done automatically for people who agree to it and who agree to follow certain rules? I stopped following it regularly because of the amount of non-Fedora content, which is kind of a shame because there _is_ a lot of great Fedora activity that I'm missing.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 08:49:37AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 01:31:23AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Not sure voting is necessary - if someone is taking point on this, we should empower them to run with it, IMHO. (And if there's 2+ excellent posts, why limit things? Re-running all of Planet would be excessive, but if we find N+1 great posts in a week and the authors are OK with reposts, then cool by me.)
Honestly, I don't think it'd hurt to rerun all of the directly-Fedora-relevant content from the planet. Possibly this could even be done automatically for people who agree to it and who agree to follow certain rules? I stopped following it regularly because of the amount of non-Fedora content, which is kind of a shame because there _is_ a lot of great Fedora activity that I'm missing.
Might wind up with quite a lot of content hitting the site that way. Might, not sure.
But I think we're all agreed: Running some posts from Planet with assent from the authors is a good thing. (Yes?)
We can start small and work our way up, I think. Is someone prepped to run with that?
Best,
jzb
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 10:22:52 -0500 Joe Brockmeier jzb@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 08:49:37AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 01:31:23AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Not sure voting is necessary - if someone is taking point on this, we should empower them to run with it, IMHO. (And if there's 2+ excellent posts, why limit things? Re-running all of Planet would be excessive, but if we find N+1 great posts in a week and the authors are OK with reposts, then cool by me.)
Honestly, I don't think it'd hurt to rerun all of the directly-Fedora-relevant content from the planet. Possibly this could even be done automatically for people who agree to it and who agree to follow certain rules? I stopped following it regularly because of the amount of non-Fedora content, which is kind of a shame because there _is_ a lot of great Fedora activity that I'm missing.
Might wind up with quite a lot of content hitting the site that way. Might, not sure.
But I think we're all agreed: Running some posts from Planet with assent from the authors is a good thing. (Yes?)
We can start small and work our way up, I think. Is someone prepped to run with that?
Best,
jzb
Well, I don't know how "prepped" I am, but it was already on my ToDo list. I'll find some articles and send them here to the list for preview - just so we're all on the same page and everyone knows what kinds of things I was looking at when selecting articles.
That work for starters?
// Roshi
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 03:02:18PM -0600, Mike Ruckman wrote:
Well, I don't know how "prepped" I am, but it was already on my ToDo list. I'll find some articles and send them here to the list for preview - just so we're all on the same page and everyone knows what kinds of things I was looking at when selecting articles.
That work for starters?
Works for me!
Best,
jzb
Looking forward to them Roshi :)
- Chris
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From: "Joe Brockmeier" jzb@redhat.com To: "Fedora Marketing team" marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:02:25 PM Subject: Re: Posts from the Planet to the Magazine
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 03:02:18PM -0600, Mike Ruckman wrote:
Well, I don't know how "prepped" I am, but it was already on my ToDo list. I'll find some articles and send them here to the list for preview - just so we're all on the same page and everyone knows what kinds of things I was looking at when selecting articles.
That work for starters?
Works for me!
Best,
jzb
On Oct 29, 2013 8:45 PM, "Mike Ruckman" roshi@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:45:01 -0500 Joe Brockmeier jzb@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:01:57PM +0200, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:
Hello everyone,
On the Monday's meeting[1] we discussed about creating a new category and adding it in the main menu of the Fedora Magazine. In this new category we can choose every week an article from Fedora Planet, and publish it in the magazine as well. Roshi stepped forward on this, and said he can choose articles from the planet
Thoughts/flames?
Don't forget comments. ;-)
Quick thought: Do we have permission to republish material that appears on the Planet to the magazine? Skimming the Planet Howto I don't see that we grant permission for forklifting materials from our blog to another publication. It may seem like a triviality/formality, but it's possible that we'd annoy a contributor if we post something on the magazine without asking first.
So, we plan to ask first, right?
Best,
jzb
My thoughts initially (not sure if I actually *said* anything about it though) were to find some posts we liked, vote which we wanted to publish for the week then contact the person who wrote it and see if they minded. This might help out with people wanting to be part of marketing and the magazine. Was also thinking we could get a badge made for it :)
I like it. At first I thought "$EXPLETIVE, I hope this isn't suggesting we pipe the planet feed into the Magazine just to have more content!". Weekly features is ideal. It wouldn't be a good idea to lean too heavily on a small group of bloggers though, even if their posts are consistently more suited to the venue.
In response to Zoltan, I think the package selection is a great idea. I was actually pondering something similar. I've learned a great deal from the Python Module of the Week [1] and thought it might be fun (though time consuming) to do something with Fedora packages or tools - like deltaisos. Those are awesome.
Something like "*New* Package of the Week" would be interesting too. It would have the side benefit of being more likely to include and involve newly sponsored packagers.
--Pete
Hi,
We have been done similar in ancient times, it was callled dailypackages what name has been taken over by myself, because the original Chris Tyler's blog series content is dead since 2008. But still can be found some remaining fragments at source. [1] If you check it, you see that every post is goes around an specific theme (Artsy Tuesday, Productive Monday, etc) , so with that if we copy the method - we can cover every group activity, and everyone can select one "candy" within his interest. Also if possible, I would like to add not only news about new codes (Fedora Hosted projects), else QA testing news, how-to's and perhaps requests too as a developers/engineers "corner" page. Under requests I would like to see callings for tasks - Like we are looking for xy workgroup testing, or set or write documentation, or whaterver. Also if you add some contests, and rare stuff (1 fedora keyboard, mice, keychain, etc) as a contest if the task is done, we can have our own Fedora Summer of Code slowly, and more better code.
With these touches, we can achieve more active community, more feedback, and the marketing team can be the backup for ambassadors, feedback of the teams, and the contact with the PR.
HTH with my ideas.
Zoltan
2013/10/30 Pete Travis lists@petetravis.com
On Oct 29, 2013 8:45 PM, "Mike Ruckman" roshi@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:45:01 -0500 Joe Brockmeier jzb@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:01:57PM +0200, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:
Hello everyone,
On the Monday's meeting[1] we discussed about creating a new category and adding it in the main menu of the Fedora Magazine. In this new category we can choose every week an article from Fedora Planet, and publish it in the magazine as well. Roshi stepped forward on this, and said he can choose articles from the planet
Thoughts/flames?
Don't forget comments. ;-)
Quick thought: Do we have permission to republish material that appears on the Planet to the magazine? Skimming the Planet Howto I don't see that we grant permission for forklifting materials from our blog to another publication. It may seem like a triviality/formality, but it's possible that we'd annoy a contributor if we post something on the magazine without asking first.
So, we plan to ask first, right?
Best,
jzb
My thoughts initially (not sure if I actually *said* anything about it though) were to find some posts we liked, vote which we wanted to publish for the week then contact the person who wrote it and see if they minded. This might help out with people wanting to be part of marketing and the magazine. Was also thinking we could get a badge made for it :)
I like it. At first I thought "$EXPLETIVE, I hope this isn't suggesting we pipe the planet feed into the Magazine just to have more content!". Weekly features is ideal. It wouldn't be a good idea to lean too heavily on a small group of bloggers though, even if their posts are consistently more suited to the venue.
In response to Zoltan, I think the package selection is a great idea. I was actually pondering something similar. I've learned a great deal from the Python Module of the Week [1] and thought it might be fun (though time consuming) to do something with Fedora packages or tools - like deltaisos. Those are awesome.
Something like "*New* Package of the Week" would be interesting too. It would have the side benefit of being more likely to include and involve newly sponsored packagers.
--Pete
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Hi,
Sorry the link has been left out from my post. Check it out.
http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/
Zoltan
2013/10/30 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com
Hi,
We have been done similar in ancient times, it was callled dailypackages what name has been taken over by myself, because the original Chris Tyler's blog series content is dead since 2008. But still can be found some remaining fragments at source. [1] If you check it, you see that every post is goes around an specific theme (Artsy Tuesday, Productive Monday, etc) , so with that if we copy the method - we can cover every group activity, and everyone can select one "candy" within his interest. Also if possible, I would like to add not only news about new codes (Fedora Hosted projects), else QA testing news, how-to's and perhaps requests too as a developers/engineers "corner" page. Under requests I would like to see callings for tasks - Like we are looking for xy workgroup testing, or set or write documentation, or whaterver. Also if you add some contests, and rare stuff (1 fedora keyboard, mice, keychain, etc) as a contest if the task is done, we can have our own Fedora Summer of Code slowly, and more better code.
With these touches, we can achieve more active community, more feedback, and the marketing team can be the backup for ambassadors, feedback of the teams, and the contact with the PR.
HTH with my ideas.
Zoltan
2013/10/30 Pete Travis lists@petetravis.com
On Oct 29, 2013 8:45 PM, "Mike Ruckman" roshi@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:45:01 -0500 Joe Brockmeier jzb@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:01:57PM +0200, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:
Hello everyone,
On the Monday's meeting[1] we discussed about creating a new category and adding it in the main menu of the Fedora Magazine. In this new category we can choose every week an article from Fedora Planet, and publish it in the magazine as well. Roshi stepped forward on this, and said he can choose articles from the planet
Thoughts/flames?
Don't forget comments. ;-)
Quick thought: Do we have permission to republish material that appears on the Planet to the magazine? Skimming the Planet Howto I don't see that we grant permission for forklifting materials from our blog to another publication. It may seem like a triviality/formality, but it's possible that we'd annoy a contributor if we post something on the magazine without asking first.
So, we plan to ask first, right?
Best,
jzb
My thoughts initially (not sure if I actually *said* anything about it though) were to find some posts we liked, vote which we wanted to publish for the week then contact the person who wrote it and see if they minded. This might help out with people wanting to be part of marketing and the magazine. Was also thinking we could get a badge made for it :)
I like it. At first I thought "$EXPLETIVE, I hope this isn't suggesting we pipe the planet feed into the Magazine just to have more content!". Weekly features is ideal. It wouldn't be a good idea to lean too heavily on a small group of bloggers though, even if their posts are consistently more suited to the venue.
In response to Zoltan, I think the package selection is a great idea. I was actually pondering something similar. I've learned a great deal from the Python Module of the Week [1] and thought it might be fun (though time consuming) to do something with Fedora packages or tools - like deltaisos. Those are awesome.
Something like "*New* Package of the Week" would be interesting too. It would have the side benefit of being more likely to include and involve newly sponsored packagers.
--Pete
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:44:55AM +0100, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Sorry the link has been left out from my post. Check it out.
Nice!
Best,
jzb
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