Fedora 9 name

[Satyajit Ranjeev]

Juan Camilo Prada wrote
>  > being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a
>  ridiculous name! 
+1 
I totally agree with Juan. Why don't they decide a name which wouldn't
repel people away from the distribution. Is Fedora a disease that soon
we would have to eradicate. It is said that the a person becomes the
name and I think the same goes with any thing. 

Satyajit

[Affix]

i agree on this although i think chupakabra is a great name. Its
fierce and powerful. Just like fedora

On 1/22/08, Satyajit Ranjeev <satyajit(a)nerdshack.com&gt; wrote:
>  Juan Camilo Prada wrote
>  > > being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a
>  > ridiculous name!
>
>  +1
>  I totally agree with Juan. Why don't they decide a name which wouldn't
>  repel people away from the distribution. Is Fedora a disease that soon
>  we would have to eradicate. It is said that the a person becomes the
>  name and I think the same goes with any thing.
>
>  Satyajit
>

[Nicu Buculei]

affix(a)ihack.co.uk wrote:
>  i agree on this although i think chupakabra is a great name.  
And you proved the opposite by misspelling the name :D

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[Rahul Sundaram]

affix(a)ihack.co.uk wrote:
>  i agree on this although i think chupakabra is a great name. Its
>  fierce and powerful. Just like fedora 
This explains why moaning about any one of the choice of codenames is 
energy that is better devoted to doing useful marketing tasks which this 
list is meant to coordinate. How about anybody volunteering to do some 
of that?

Everybody had their chance to provide feedback and suggest codenames. 
People who missed it this time can participate the next release.

Rahul

[Elio Tondo]

Satyajit Ranjeev wrote:

>  Juan Camilo Prada wrote
> > being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a
> > ridiculous name!
>  
>  +1 
>  I totally agree with Juan. Why don't they decide a name which wouldn't
>  repel people away from the distribution. Is Fedora a disease that soon
>  we would have to eradicate. It is said that the a person becomes the
>  name and I think the same goes with any thing.  
Just for my curiosity: what's the meaning of having included three 
disease names among the choices? ;-)

Elio

[Rahul Sundaram]

Elio Tondo wrote:
>  Satyajit Ranjeev wrote:
>  
> > Juan Camilo Prada wrote
> >> being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a
> >> ridiculous name!
> >
> > +1 I totally agree with Juan. Why don't they decide a name which wouldn't
> > repel people away from the distribution. Is Fedora a disease that soon
> > we would have to eradicate. It is said that the a person becomes the
> > name and I think the same goes with any thing. 
>  
>  Just for my curiosity: what's the meaning of having included three 
>  disease names among the choices? ;-) 
All of the codenames are those suggested in the fedora-devel thread. 
Read it if you want the details.

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg01000....

Rahul

[Gain Paolo Mureddu]

Rahul Sundaram escribió:
>  All of the codenames are those suggested in the fedora-devel thread.
>
>  Read it if you want the details.
>
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg01000.... 
>
>
>  Rahul
>  

Ok, so since pretty much this time around there was a total 
dis-coordination between -devel and -marketing, how about, in the 
future, have an IRC meeting or two simultaneous threads in -devel and 
-marketing to propose codenames, and then the usual process could 
continue? I mean I know the names have to cleared by legal and all, but 
in the end, the codename is ultimately also a marketing "jingle", so I 
don't see why -devel and -marketing lists should antagonize on it.

[Marc Wiriadisastra]

On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 18:23 -0600, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
>  Rahul Sundaram escribió:
>  > All of the codenames are those suggested in the fedora-devel thread. 
>  > Read it if you want the details.
>  >
>  > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg01000.... 
>  >
>  >
>  > Rahul
>  >
>  
>  
>  Ok, so since pretty much this time around there was a total 
>  dis-coordination between -devel and -marketing, how about, in the 
>  future, have an IRC meeting or two simultaneous threads in -devel and 
>  -marketing to propose codenames, and then the usual process could 
>  continue? I mean I know the names have to cleared by legal and all, but 
>  in the end, the codename is ultimately also a marketing "jingle", so I 
>  don't see why -devel and -marketing lists should antagonize on it.
>   
Last time something came to marketing such as the slogan there was mass
communication from a significant number of people and yet nothing
happened.  We are still without a slogan as of now. I would prefer it if
devel put up names at least from recent history devel get things done
while marketing seems to be at a stand still.

I'm a member of both devel and marketing I didn't propose any names. I
would prefer it if it was a marketing effort but in the current form
marketing is just a news list without any direction sadly.  I'm hoping
this will change now with the new influx of people who know about
marketing (RH Folks) and some direction from our current and past
fearless leaders.

Cheers,

Marc

[Rahul Sundaram]

Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:

>  
>  I'm a member of both devel and marketing I didn't propose any names. I
>  would prefer it if it was a marketing effort but in the current form
>  marketing is just a news list without any direction sadly.  I'm hoping
>  this will change now with the new influx of people who know about
>  marketing (RH Folks) and some direction from our current and past
>  fearless leaders. 
There are lot of work to do that is waiting on more volunteers. How 
about participating in those activities? A few examples,

* Do interviews based on 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList and help Jonathan 
Roberts

* Help me with the release notes for Fedora 9 releases. I am currently 
working on

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Alpha/ReleaseNotes

* Help with 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-January/msg000...

I would appreciate if you people stop complaining about this being a 
news list or rant on codenames or whatever and do something useful. Thanks.

Rahul

[Karsten Wade]

On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 06:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>  Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:
>  
>  > 
>  > I'm a member of both devel and marketing I didn't propose any names. I
>  > would prefer it if it was a marketing effort but in the current form
>  > marketing is just a news list without any direction sadly.  I'm hoping
>  > this will change now with the new influx of people who know about
>  > marketing (RH Folks) and some direction from our current and past
>  > fearless leaders.
>  
>  There are lot of work to do that is waiting on more volunteers. How 
>  about participating in those activities? A few examples, 
<snip>
>  I would appreciate if you people stop complaining about this being a
>
>  news list or rant on codenames or whatever and do something useful. Thanks. 
Your flame is misplaced on Marc, he's definitely busy elsewhere getting
stuff done.

Regardless, I'll support the concept that we don't need to continue
worrying about the name for Fedora 9.  The list was generated according
to the usual process, and we need to trust the voters to not choose
something totally stupid.

As for the general concern over marketing, etc., let's take this one
step at a time from here.  If we are in the position to add anything
from marketing to the codename process for F10, let's do that then.

- Karsten
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[Rodrigo Menezes]

Rahul,

I'm working with Eric Sandee to produce an interview about Ext4 
implementation. Do I need to get approval for all the questions? Or just 
finish the document and send to someone to approval?

Cheers,

Rodrigo Menezes


Rahul Sundaram escreveu:
>  There are lot of work to do that is waiting on more volunteers. How 
>  about participating in those activities? A few examples,
>
>  * Do interviews based on 
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList and help Jonathan 
>  Roberts
>
>  * Help me with the release notes for Fedora 9 releases. I am currently 
>  working on
>
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Alpha/ReleaseNotes
>
>  * Help with 
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-January/msg000... 
>
>
>  I would appreciate if you people stop complaining about this being a 
>  news list or rant on codenames or whatever and do something useful. 
>  Thanks.
>
>  Rahul
>  

		
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[Rahul Sundaram]

Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
>  Rahul,
>  
>  I'm working with Eric Sandee to produce an interview about Ext4 
>  implementation. Do I need to get approval for all the questions? Or just 
>  finish the document and send to someone to approval? 
You don't necessarily have to get approval for anything but it would 
quite useful if you post the questions you intend to ask. Others on the 
list might have good ideas on what questions would make sense for any 
given feature. I think we can work on these as a team. Thanks.

Rahul

[Rodrigo Menezes]

Check above.

He'll answer some and as to the devel team to help me out.

- What motivated you work on Ext4 integration for Fedora 9?
- Could you explain more about new features in Ext4?
- What'll be the first impression for users?
- How does it differ to the existing solutions?
- The Ext4 is compatible with Ext3, is this correct? In a future 
migration, users doesn't need to format the particion, is that it?
- We never heard about Defragmentation in a Linux solution, How do you 
think this could help the system?
- What work still needs to be done to reach a state where you feel its 
achieved its initial goals?
- How's the work going on getting this ready to be easily available for 
Fedora 9?
- Do you fell safety implement Ext4 in an existent Fedora 8 system?
- What about standards, will Ext4 be the new standard for Fedora 9 systems?
- Do you see other distributions working to implement Ext4?
- And to finish, you could tell us a little bit about yourselves? What 
got you interested in free software originally? What do you like to do 
with your spare time when you're not working with computers?

Cheers,

Rodrigo Menezes


Rahul Sundaram escreveu:
>  Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
> > Rahul,
> >
> > I'm working with Eric Sandee to produce an interview about Ext4 
> > implementation. Do I need to get approval for all the questions? Or 
> > just finish the document and send to someone to approval?
>
>  You don't necessarily have to get approval for anything but it would 
>  quite useful if you post the questions you intend to ask. Others on 
>  the list might have good ideas on what questions would make sense for 
>  any given feature. I think we can work on these as a team. Thanks.
>
>  Rahul
>  

	

	
		
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[Rahul Sundaram]

Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
>  Check above. 
Some suggestions:

>  
>  He'll answer some and as to the devel team to help me out. 
>  - What motivated you work on Ext4 integration for Fedora 9? 
How much upstream development does Fedora drive on Ext4?

>  - Could you explain more about new features in Ext4?
>  - What'll be the first impression for users?
>  - How does it differ to the existing solutions? 
The last three can be combined to a single question.

How does Ext4 compare to other recent filesystems like btrfs?

>  - The Ext4 is compatible with Ext3, is this correct? In a future 
>  migration, users doesn't need to format the particion, is that it?
>  - We never heard about Defragmentation in a Linux solution, How do you 
>  think this could help the system? 
>  - What work still needs to be done to reach a state where you feel its 
>  achieved its initial goals?
>  - How's the work going on getting this ready to be easily available for 
>  Fedora 9?
>  - Do you fell safety implement Ext4 in an existent Fedora 8 system?
>  - What about standards, will Ext4 be the new standard for Fedora 9 systems? 
You probably mean default, here.

>  - Do you see other distributions working to implement Ext4?
>  - And to finish, you could tell us a little bit about yourselves? What 
>  got you interested in free software originally? What do you like to do 
>  with your spare time when you're not working with computers? 
Rahul

[Rahul Sundaram]

Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:

>  Ok, so since pretty much this time around there was a total 
>  dis-coordination between -devel and -marketing, how about, in the 
>  future, have an IRC meeting or two simultaneous threads in -devel and 
>  -marketing to propose codenames, and then the usual process could 
>  continue?  
Too much overhead for a mere codename which is meant for developers and 
we don't have a marketing team to coordinate such activities. I don't 
view it as lack of coordination just because a few people disagree with 
some of the choices in a long list of possible codenames for a release. 
Again, I think the energy spend here can be directed towards doing 
actual marketing instead.

Rahul

[Juan Camilo Prada]

On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 06:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>  Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
>  
>  > Ok, so since pretty much this time around there was a total 
>  > dis-coordination between -devel and -marketing, how about, in the 
>  > future, have an IRC meeting or two simultaneous threads in -devel and 
>  > -marketing to propose codenames, and then the usual process could 
>  > continue? 
>  
>  Too much overhead for a mere codename which is meant for developers and 
>  we don't have a marketing team to coordinate such activities. I don't 
>  view it as lack of coordination just because a few people disagree with 
>  some of the choices in a long list of possible codenames for a release. 
>  Again, I think the energy spend here can be directed towards doing 
>  actual marketing instead.
>  
>  Rahul 

Im not specialized in marketing, but ive been using linux and fedora for
enough time to see that codenames are actually a flag that identify the
release of a distribution. Maybe not in fedora as we usually call the
release by its number (6 ,7 ,8 ...) but some other people rather call it
by its codename, for example ubuntu users (now please dont start flaming
about this comment... keep reading). 

If the marketing team try to make a good name out of fedora, and reach
to the most people out there that could be a potential user (also
including those ubuntu users... we cant ignore that market) showing the
benefits of fedora, i think we are screwing things up with this
codenames slection... People always judge the book by its cover, so we
need something appealing


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