Red Hat Establishes Fedora Mirror Site in China

[David Barzilay]

http://www.apac.redhat.com/news/article/346.html

Best,

[Nicu Buculei]

David Barzilay wrote:
> http://www.apac.redhat.com/news/article/346.html

Is there any reason why http://www.fedoraproject.org.cn/ look like the 
old and ugly http://www.fedoraproject.org/, instead of the current layout?

[Colin Charles]

On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 08:51 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> David Barzilay wrote:
> > http://www.apac.redhat.com/news/article/346.html
>
> Is there any reason why http://www.fedoraproject.org.cn/ look like
> the 
> old and ugly http://www.fedoraproject.org/, instead of the current
> layout?
> From what I can see, it just links back to the fp.o site.

Now, I have a few questions:

1. was RH ever going to ask/consult/tell us about
fedoraproject.org.cn /before/ its inception?

I find this lack of communication not positive

2. Is the content there going to be localised? Last I checked, RH
Beijing was hiring ~80 staff (earlier this year), so how important is
RHEL/Fedora there?

3. Competition from Sun Wah Linux and Red Flag linux (I think they're
now a fedora/chinese spinoff) is rife. Thoughts?

Regards

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi
> Now, I have a few questions:
> was RH ever going to ask/consult/tell us about
>
> fedoraproject.org.cn /before/ its inception?
>
> I find this lack of communication not positive

Agreed.
> Is the content there going to be localised? Last I checked, RH
>
> Beijing was hiring ~80 staff (earlier this year), so how important is
> RHEL/Fedora there?
> Competition from Sun Wah Linux and Red Flag linux (I think they're
> now a fedora/chinese spinoff) is rife. Thoughts?

Not many ideas but I will share some information. Miracle Corporation 
(Japan) , Red Flag (China) and Haansoft (Korea) have formed 
http://asianux.com. Its a  Red Hat Enterprise Linux spinoff with a 
heavily themed Anaconda and a general Windows like look and feel. These 
along with Turbolinux seem to be popular in this region.  SCIM input 
method ( in rawhide) with a strong native language support should put 
Fedora on par

Download

http://www.asianux.com/download.php

Some articles and screenshots

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050929#1
http://distroreviews.com/index.php?view=140
http://lwn.net/Articles/149978/
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=428&slide=22

regards
Rahul

[Karsten Wade]

On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 12:24 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> Is the content there going to be localised? Last I checked, RH
>
> Beijing was hiring ~80 staff (earlier this year), so how important is
> RHEL/Fedora there?

They could start by having the press release localized into English.  It
reads as if it was in Chinese first and had an incomplete translation to
English. :)

http://www.apac.redhat.com/news/article/346.html

- Karsten, who gets snarky when people don't get stuff QA'd by the
editors

[Greg DeKoenigsberg]

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Colin Charles wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 08:51 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > David Barzilay wrote:
> > > http://www.apac.redhat.com/news/article/346.html
> >
> > Is there any reason why http://www.fedoraproject.org.cn/ look like the
> > old and ugly http://www.fedoraproject.org/, instead of the current
> > layout?
> > From what I can see, it just links back to the fp.o site.
>
> Now, I have a few questions:
> was RH ever going to ask/consult/tell us about
>
> fedoraproject.org.cn /before/ its inception?
>
> I find this lack of communication not positive.

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

The fact is that the Chinese organization runs, as near as I can tell, 
completely autonomously.  They wanted to have a local mirror, so they 
created one.  It's not the prettiest thing in the world, to be sure, but 
it does the job -- by (a) putting up a local mirror, and (b) linking back 
to the authoritative content at fp.o with *every other link*.
> Is the content there going to be localised? Last I checked, RH
>
> Beijing was hiring ~80 staff (earlier this year), so how important is
> RHEL/Fedora there?

We're trying to get in touch with the Chinese folks to understand what 
their plans are.
> Competition from Sun Wah Linux and Red Flag linux (I think they're
>
> now a fedora/chinese spinoff) is rife. Thoughts?

My first thought is that we need a Chinese CMC.

--g

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 Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent.  the
             Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the 
                     ] [ dumb.  --mcluhan

[Colin Charles]

On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 09:43 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> > I find this lack of communication not positive.
>
> I've said this before and I'll say it again:
>
> Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Heh. Yeah, on a another list ;-)

Sorry! Tired brain and headaches getting the better of me
> We're trying to get in touch with the Chinese folks to understand what 
> their plans are.

Cool
> > Competition from Sun Wah Linux and Red Flag linux (I think they're
> >
> > now a fedora/chinese spinoff) is rife. Thoughts?
>
> My first thought is that we need a Chinese CMC.

Speaking of which, while offline (Internet costs $15 for about an hr
here at a cafe!), I came up with:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/CommunityMarketingContacts

Flame on :)