[Fedora-marketing-list] XFCE as third official desktop?

[Heiko Adams]

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Hi,
some of my friends and colleges are currently using xubuntu but they
want to move to fedora and so they asked me why Fedora only
provides GNOME and KDE but not XFCE as desktops during the installation.
I told them that XFCE can be installed from fedora-extras repository
after installation.
So now they've moved to Fedora but they are a little bit unhappy
because they had to install GNOME/KDE -> install XFCE from
fedora-extras -> remove GNOME/KDE to get a XFCE Fedora and in their
eyes that's circuitous.
So they asked for asking if there would be a chance to move XFCE to
Fedora Core in Fedora Core 7 or later.

Regards,

Heiko
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[Yoshihiro Totaka]

FC6 supports downloading package from Extras,
so I think from FC6, they can directly install XFCE in FC6.
I haven't tested download support yet, but you can test it
yourself using rescue disk from development tree.

2006/10/8, Heiko Adams <heiko.adams(a)gmx.de&gt;:
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>  Hi,
>  some of my friends and colleges are currently using xubuntu but they
>  want to move to fedora and so they asked me why Fedora only
>  provides GNOME and KDE but not XFCE as desktops during the installation.
>  I told them that XFCE can be installed from fedora-extras repository
>  after installation.
>  So now they've moved to Fedora but they are a little bit unhappy
>  because they had to install GNOME/KDE -> install XFCE from
>  fedora-extras -> remove GNOME/KDE to get a XFCE Fedora and in their
>  eyes that's circuitous.
>  So they asked for asking if there would be a chance to move XFCE to
>  Fedora Core in Fedora Core 7 or later.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Heiko
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[Rahul Sundaram]

Heiko Adams wrote:
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>  Hi,
>  some of my friends and colleges are currently using xubuntu but they
>  want to move to fedora and so they asked me why Fedora only
>  provides GNOME and KDE but not XFCE as desktops during the installation.
>  I told them that XFCE can be installed from fedora-extras repository
>  after installation.
>  So now they've moved to Fedora but they are a little bit unhappy
>  because they had to install GNOME/KDE -> install XFCE from
>  fedora-extras -> remove GNOME/KDE to get a XFCE Fedora and in their
>  eyes that's circuitous.
>  So they asked for asking if there would be a chance to move XFCE to
>  Fedora Core in Fedora Core 7 or later. 
GNOME and KDE are not anymore official in Fedora than XFCE is. Fedora 
Core 6 installer includes the ability to install applications from 
Fedora Extras repository. So the end users would be able to do a network 
based installation and select XFCE as default. This has been made 
relatively easy.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours/FedoraCore6/005_Install_Add_Repository

We are also discussing some changes in the release strategy including 
availability of extras packages in media. So essentially eliminating any 
practical differences between these repositories at the end user level 
potentially as close as the next release. I guess that should satisfy 
your friends and fans of other alternative window managers included in 
Fedora Extras.

Rahul

[Rahul Sundaram]

Heiko Adams wrote:
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>  Hi,
>  some of my friends and colleges are currently using xubuntu but they
>  want to move to fedora and so they asked me why Fedora only
>  provides GNOME and KDE but not XFCE as desktops during the installation.
>  I told them that XFCE can be installed from fedora-extras repository
>  after installation.
>  So now they've moved to Fedora but they are a little bit unhappy
>  because they had to install GNOME/KDE -> install XFCE from
>  fedora-extras -> remove GNOME/KDE to get a XFCE Fedora and in their
>  eyes that's circuitous.
>  So they asked for asking if there would be a chance to move XFCE to
>  Fedora Core in Fedora Core 7 or later. 
GNOME and KDE are not anymore official in Fedora than XFCE is. Fedora 
Core 6 installer includes the ability to install applications from 
Fedora Extras repository. So the end users would be able to do a network 
based installation and select XFCE as default. This has been made 
relatively easy.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours/FedoraCore6/005_Install_Add_Repository

We are also discussing some changes in the release strategy including 
availability of extras packages in media. So essentially eliminating any 
practical differences between these repositories at the end user level 
potentially as close as the next release. I guess that should satisfy 
your friends and fans of other alternative window managers included in 
Fedora Extras.

Rahul

[Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] XFCE as third official desktop?

[Heiko Adams]

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Am Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:11:05 +0530
schrieb Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  GNOME and KDE are not anymore official in Fedora than XFCE is. Fedora
>
>  Core 6 installer includes the ability to install applications from 
>  Fedora Extras repository. So the end users would be able to do a
>  network based installation and select XFCE as default. This has been
>  made relatively easy.
>   
Okay, but "normal" users could get the impress that GNOME and KDE are
more "official" than XFCE. But anyway thanks for the correction.
So as I wrote before my friends have already moved to fedora but they
were a little bit surprised that XFCE wasn't available at Fedora Core 5
installer. So at the moment they've got a fedora core 5 system with
XFCE and (a never used) GNOME. They selected GNOME because it's more
like XFCE then KDE and it's never wrong to have a fallback option ;-)

>  We are also discussing some changes in the release strategy including
>
>  availability of extras packages in media. So essentially eliminating
>  any practical differences between these repositories at the end user
>  level potentially as close as the next release. I guess that should
>  satisfy your friends and fans of other alternative window managers
>  included in Fedora Extras.
>   
I think that many people would be happy about that.

Regards

Heiko
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