On 04/05/12 10:37, gabriele trombini wrote:
In data venerdì 4 maggio 2012 17:36:45, Prima Yogi Loviniltra ha scritto:
after all of these exist (portal, forum, irc, mailing list) then
; come back to earth, and we
(contributor in id.fc.org
>) have an idea to unite us
under Fedora Indonesia but fedora.or.id <http://fedora.or.id>
it and fedora.or.id <http://fedora.or.id>
; also banned us (id.fc.org
>) from facebook page and forum..
from me and other friends just want the best for fedora Indonesia with
our union that is highly desirable, but if there are still those who
persist with the ego didn't want to unite, we can do anything, and
this is the end of that is by our own way...
The regional communities should be under the same flag but sometimes
this is not possible due to a different background or a war between
users or contributors.
Fedora can only lose, so I think that is important reaching an
agreement after a discussion for clarification.
Only understanding each other you can solve the problem, and each
contender has to lose something.
So, in your country, Fedora can be supported as well.
ambassadors mailing list
First of all, you guys
are supposed to serve the community, that
includes people you might not agree with! You do not ban people or act
otherwise against those people, unless they are spammers and keep
inserting spam links into your pages. if you do not like somebodies
opinion, try and persuade others with good arguments, that your way is
the right way (without shouting or fighting).
The person that raises his/her voice is usually wrong.
If you folks in Indonesia cannot act like adults, and work for the
interest of Fedora as a whole, then there is a very simple solution to
the childish bickering.
And that simple solution is, to just gain control of the fedora.xxx.id
domains of any kind and slip it into Fedora's own control.
But that is not why the Fedora community sites for local areas was
drawn up. it was to give you all greater control to promote Fedora in
I suggest you guys either set up a Steering Committee, which votes on
different arguments and proposals. If that does not work, or you are too
Childish to set something like that up, because of in-fighting, then I
am sure that FAMSco and the Fedora Board, can happily make that decision
Quite honestly, if you are not mature enough to handle this yourselves,
then you should all ask yourselves, if you should be Fedora ambassadors
at all! It is not about you! It is about Free and Opensource Software
and in our case, Fedora and the general public, who want to learn and
better themselves. Think about what the general public think about your
bickering and in-fighting!
I hope I gave you guys the impetus to have a good serious thought about
what this should be really about!
Tristan Santore BSc MBCS
Network and Infrastructure Operations
Former Thawte Notary
(Please note: Thawte has closed its WoT programme down,
and I am therefore no longer able to accredit trust)
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