Event: RPI Center for Open Source talk about Fedora

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi Ambassadors,

I just wanted to shout out that I'll be giving a talk about Fedora at
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) in Troy, NY on February 5. The
abstract for my talk is as follows:

"How to get involved in an open source Linux operating system: Fedora 

"Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in
free and open source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to use,
modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe who work
together as an open community that welcomes anyone to join. Mairin
Duffy, an RPI CS alum from Red Hat, will talk about what makes Fedora
different from other Linux-based operating systems and how you can get
involved in Fedora."

The official talk announcement and description is on the Rensselaer
Center for Open Source website:

http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~moorthy/rcos/talksfall2009

The Rensselaer Center for Open Source (RCOS) funds RPI students for
working on open source projects - and the talk will be taking place
during an RCOS meeting. We already have two RPI students in the Fedora
community, Rob Escriba and Ben Boeckel, but I'm hoping this will be a
good chance to motivate more to join us :) BTW RPI is my alma mater :)

I'm not sure how many will be attending yet; I'm waiting to hear back
from my contact there on how many to expect. I filled out a Fedora
events entry here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q4_.28December_2009_-_February_...

~m

[Adam Miller]

2010/1/5 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Hi Ambassadors,
>
>  I just wanted to shout out that I'll be giving a talk about Fedora at
>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) in Troy, NY on February 5. The
>  abstract for my talk is as follows:
>
>  "How to get involved in an open source Linux operating system: Fedora
>
>  "Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in
>  free and open source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to use,
>  modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe who work
>  together as an open community that welcomes anyone to join. Mairin
>  Duffy, an RPI CS alum from Red Hat, will talk about what makes Fedora
>  different from other Linux-based operating systems and how you can get
>  involved in Fedora."
>
>  The official talk announcement and description is on the Rensselaer
>  Center for Open Source website:
>
>  http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~moorthy/rcos/talksfall2009
>
>  The Rensselaer Center for Open Source (RCOS) funds RPI students for
>  working on open source projects - and the talk will be taking place
>  during an RCOS meeting. We already have two RPI students in the Fedora
>  community, Rob Escriba and Ben Boeckel, but I'm hoping this will be a
>  good chance to motivate more to join us :) BTW RPI is my alma mater :)
>
>  I'm not sure how many will be attending yet; I'm waiting to hear back
>  from my contact there on how many to expect. I filled out a Fedora
>  events entry here:
>
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q4_.28December_2009_-_February_...
>
>  ~m
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Awesome! Sounds like a solid talk, good luck!

-AdamM

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2010/1/5 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Hi Ambassadors,
>
>  I just wanted to shout out that I'll be giving a talk about Fedora at
>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) in Troy, NY on February 5. The
>  abstract for my talk is as follows:
>
>  "How to get involved in an open source Linux operating system: Fedora
>
>  "Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in
>  free and open source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to use,
>  modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe who work
>  together as an open community that welcomes anyone to join. Mairin
>  Duffy, an RPI CS alum from Red Hat, will talk about what makes Fedora
>  different from other Linux-based operating systems and how you can get
>  involved in Fedora."
>
>  The official talk announcement and description is on the Rensselaer
>  Center for Open Source website:
>
>  http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~moorthy/rcos/talksfall2009
>
>  The Rensselaer Center for Open Source (RCOS) funds RPI students for
>  working on open source projects - and the talk will be taking place
>  during an RCOS meeting. We already have two RPI students in the Fedora
>  community, Rob Escriba and Ben Boeckel, but I'm hoping this will be a
>  good chance to motivate more to join us :) BTW RPI is my alma mater :)
>
>  I'm not sure how many will be attending yet; I'm waiting to hear back
>  from my contact there on how many to expect. I filled out a Fedora
>  events entry here:
>
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q4_.28December_2009_-_February_...
>
>  ~m
>
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[Max Spevack]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote:

>  I just wanted to shout out that I'll be giving a talk about
> Fedora at 
>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) in Troy, NY on February 5. The 
>  abstract for my talk is as follows:
>
>  "How to get involved in an open source Linux operating system: Fedora
>
>  "Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in 
>  free and open source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to 
>  use, modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe 
>  who work together as an open community that welcomes anyone to join. 
>  Mairin Duffy, an RPI CS alum from Red Hat, will talk about what makes 
>  Fedora different from other Linux-based operating systems and how you 
>  can get involved in Fedora." 
This is awesome!

How much of your content do you have together?  Do you have a particular 
angle that you're going to pursue for your talk?  Is there anything that 
we can do to assist you?

Also, do you need any sort of swag?  If so, you should coordinate w/ the 
NA Ambassadors to get your hands on some.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA#Get_SWAG

I have a bunch of Fedora buttons, some of which I can mail you, separate 
from anything else.

--Max

[inode0]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Max Spevack <mspevack(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> > I just wanted to shout out that I'll be giving a talk about Fedora at
> > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) in Troy, NY on February 5. The
> > abstract for my talk is as follows:
> >
> > "How to get involved in an open source Linux operating system: Fedora
> >
> > "Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in
> > free and open source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to use,
> > modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe who work
> > together as an open community that welcomes anyone to join. Mairin Duffy, an
> > RPI CS alum from Red Hat, will talk about what makes Fedora different from
> > other Linux-based operating systems and how you can get involved in Fedora."
>
>  This is awesome!
>
>  How much of your content do you have together?  Do you have a particular
>  angle that you're going to pursue for your talk?  Is there anything that we
>  can do to assist you?
>
>  Also, do you need any sort of swag?  If so, you should coordinate w/ the NA
>  Ambassadors to get your hands on some.
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA#Get_SWAG
>
>  I have a bunch of Fedora buttons, some of which I can mail you, separate
>  from anything else. 
I'll be sending along some media and will include a couple of t-shirts
and some other swag.

John

PS Leave a chalk Fedora logo on the way out :)

FYI, on an effective & useful two page article review of Fedora 12, "Constantine" and interview with Paul Frields done by The Register. :)

[David Ramsey]

Hello Everyone,

Greetings. :)
 
During my review of the FedoraForum.org, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/
 
I came across an effective & useful two page article review of Fedora 12,
"Constantine" and interview with Paul Frields done by The Register -
 
================================
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/19/fedora_12_review/
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/19/fedora_12_review/page2.html
 
================================
 
The article was a good read and has useful content which I have put into my Fedora 12
presentations.  :)
 
Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)

Thank You
Sincerely
=-=-=-=-=
- David -
=-=-=-=-=
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vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE
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[threethirty]

Howdy all:

I had this crazy idea of taking the idea of a 'zine and making it a
useful tool for Ambassadors [and anyone else for that matter but I'm an
Ambassador and short sighted :)].  These could be implemented at no cost
to RHT/Fedora and could be done for fairly cheap (I think).  

Ok Idea #1 is a booklet that I have hacked up a [terrible] alpha quality
version of http://dl.dropbox.com/u/194299/Fedora%20Booklet.tar.bz2 The
idea is we make a quick intro guide to Free Software and the fedora
project.  I was thinking 8-12 pages printed on US Legal sized paper
[8.5x14 (to allow for a nice full page to read from)] that was basically
a subset of the wikipedia article on Free Software (so that it was
neutral sounding) and most of the Overview wiki page.

Yes I know its on-line so why print it, well because people are lazy.
Wiki's are great because they have a lot of information.  Wiki's are
also a PITA because they have a lot of information :)

Another thing that could be done with this is as you are stapling it you
could take a paper cd/dvd sleeve and add it to the mix, that way there
was one thing to hand people. 

Idea #2 is an "Ambassadors Field Guide" basically the same idea but
would have a list of FAQ's and answers, a near total list of contacts
for every sub project (I know this isn't totally feasible but I can
dream can't I), the talking points for $currentRealease and
$nextRealease, and anything else we can come up with that would be
helpful to have in hand when we are talking to people.

I think Idea #2 is absolutely suited to the DIY 'zine format because if
you destroy it carting it around in your back pocket you can just print
another one.

I know that anyone person could make both of these happen but I was
hoping to pool the knowledge of others and hopefully get the art team
involved so these could be a nice looking as possible.

-- 
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Fedora Ambassador
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Phone: [phone]

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[Eric Lake]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Justin O'Brien <three(a)threethirty.us&gt; wrote:

>  Howdy all:
>
>  I had this crazy idea of taking the idea of a 'zine and making it a
>  useful tool for Ambassadors [and anyone else for that matter but I'm an
>  Ambassador and short sighted :)].  These could be implemented at no cost
>  to RHT/Fedora and could be done for fairly cheap (I think).
>
>  Ok Idea #1 is a booklet that I have hacked up a [terrible] alpha quality
>  version of http://dl.dropbox.com/u/194299/Fedora%20Booklet.tar.bz2 The
>  idea is we make a quick intro guide to Free Software and the fedora
>  project.  I was thinking 8-12 pages printed on US Legal sized paper
>  [8.5x14 (to allow for a nice full page to read from)] that was basically
>  a subset of the wikipedia article on Free Software (so that it was
>  neutral sounding) and most of the Overview wiki page.
>
>  Yes I know its on-line so why print it, well because people are lazy.
>  Wiki's are great because they have a lot of information.  Wiki's are
>  also a PITA because they have a lot of information :)
>
>  Another thing that could be done with this is as you are stapling it you
>  could take a paper cd/dvd sleeve and add it to the mix, that way there
>  was one thing to hand people.
>
>  Idea #2 is an "Ambassadors Field Guide" basically the same idea but
>  would have a list of FAQ's and answers, a near total list of contacts
>  for every sub project (I know this isn't totally feasible but I can
>  dream can't I), the talking points for $currentRealease and
>  $nextRealease, and anything else we can come up with that would be
>  helpful to have in hand when we are talking to people.
>
>  I think Idea #2 is absolutely suited to the DIY 'zine format because if
>  you destroy it carting it around in your back pocket you can just print
>  another one.
>
>  I know that anyone person could make both of these happen but I was
>  hoping to pool the knowledge of others and hopefully get the art team
>  involved so these could be a nice looking as possible.
>
>  --
>  Justin "threethirty" O'Brien
>  Fedora Ambassador
>  threethirty(a)fedoraproject.org
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Threethirty
>  threethirty on freenode.net
>  @threethirty - twitter/identi.ca/jaiku
>  Phone: [phone]
>
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>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>  

I love the idea of the "Ambassadors Field Guide". I know I could sure use it
at this point.

-- 
Thanks,

Eric Lake

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[William Morris]

This is a great idea. However I am having some issues unzipping the file.
When I run tar -xjf Fedora Booklet.tar.bz2 I get these errors:

tar: Fedora: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Booklet.tar.bz2: Not found in archive
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors

Thanks,

Will

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[Ryan Rix]

On Thu 7 January 2010 12:25:02 pm William Morris wrote:
>  This is a great idea. However I am having some issues unzipping the
> file.
>  When I run tar -xjf Fedora Booklet.tar.bz2 I get these errors:
>  
>  tar: Fedora: Cannot open: No such file or directory
>  tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>  tar: Child returned status 2
>  tar: Booklet.tar.bz2: Not found in archive
>  tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
>  
>  Thanks,
>  
>  Will
>   
Spaces in File name...

tar -xjf "Fedora Booklet.tar.bz2"
or 
tar -xjf Fedora\ Booklet.tar.bz2
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[Gregory M. Zysk]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Justin O'Brien <three(a)threethirty.us&gt; wrote:

>  Howdy all:
>
>  I had this crazy idea of taking the idea of a 'zine and making it a
>  useful tool for Ambassadors [and anyone else for that matter but I'm an
>  Ambassador and short sighted :)].  These could be implemented at no cost
>  to RHT/Fedora and could be done for fairly cheap (I think).
>
>  Ok Idea #1 is a booklet that I have hacked up a [terrible] alpha quality
>  version of http://dl.dropbox.com/u/194299/Fedora%20Booklet.tar.bz2 The
>  idea is we make a quick intro guide to Free Software and the fedora
>  project.  I was thinking 8-12 pages printed on US Legal sized paper
>  [8.5x14 (to allow for a nice full page to read from)] that was basically
>  a subset of the wikipedia article on Free Software (so that it was
>  neutral sounding) and most of the Overview wiki page.
>
>  Yes I know its on-line so why print it, well because people are lazy.
>  Wiki's are great because they have a lot of information.  Wiki's are
>  also a PITA because they have a lot of information :)
>  
I agree this would be a good way.

>  Another thing that could be done with this is as you are stapling it you
>  could take a paper cd/dvd sleeve and add it to the mix, that way there
>  was one thing to hand people.
>  
We would want to differentiate from users and contributers here. Especially
ambassadors :-)

>  Idea #2 is an "Ambassadors Field Guide" basically the same idea but
>  would have a list of FAQ's and answers, a near total list of contacts
>  for every sub project (I know this isn't totally feasible but I can
>  dream can't I), the talking points for $currentRealease and
>  $nextRealease, and anything else we can come up with that would be
>  helpful to have in hand when we are talking to people.
>  
This is great since the wiki is not optimal for quick referencing and
finding information for new ambassadors. It is starting to shape up, but
lot's of things need to be more easily accessible.

>  I think Idea #2 is absolutely suited to the DIY 'zine format because if
>  you destroy it carting it around in your back pocket you can just print
>  another one.
>
>  I know that anyone person could make both of these happen but I was
>  hoping to pool the knowledge of others and hopefully get the art team
>  involved so these could be a nice looking as possible.
>  
One person you might want to contact regarding this is Joerg Simon, our
ambassador lead. I remember him mentioning something about training
materials for ambassadors a little while back. I am sure he would be happy
to help and put you in contact with those who could help you in marketing
and the design team.

I will take a look at it a bit further in depth and come back to comment.

Nonethess, I feel this is a necessary thing and a great idea!!

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[Fabio Olive Leite]

Olá!

On 2010-01-07 Justin O'Brien wrote:
>  
>  Ok Idea #1 is a booklet that I have hacked up a [terrible] alpha
>  quality version of [url]. The idea is we make a quick intro guide to
>  Free Software and the fedora project. 
How about a really small booklet, the size of a passport? Then we can
hand it out to people and say "Here's your passport to Free Software!".

Passport size makes it impossible to include a CD (unless we include
a tiny 3" CD or DVD? hmmm) but it would look *damn* *cool*. A Fedora
Passport! :)

The information inside it could be written a bit more generically, so as
to not be "limited" to a specific release. Like you said, a bit about
Free Software, a bit about Fedora, and why people should care and join.

Cheers!
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[Leonardo Menezes Vaz]

>  The information inside it could be written a bit more generically, so
> as
>  to not be "limited" to a specific release. Like you said, a bit about
>  Free Software, a bit about Fedora, and why people should care and join. 
Excellent idea Fabio! Extending it a little bit: what about creating a
kind of reference card providing some useful information (installation
instructions, command line, useful link, whatever) in a double sided
A3. Folding this reference card the right way, we can ship LiveCD or
DVDs inside. ;)

Leo

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[Mathieu Bridon]

Hi,

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:54, Leonardo Menezes Vaz
<leonardo.vaz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > The information inside it could be written a bit more
> generically, so as
> > to not be "limited" to a specific release. Like you said, a bit about
> > Free Software, a bit about Fedora, and why people should care and join.
>
>  Excellent idea Fabio! Extending it a little bit: what about creating a
>  kind of reference card providing some useful information (installation
>  instructions, command line, useful link, whatever) in a double sided
>  A3. Folding this reference card the right way, we can ship LiveCD or
>  DVDs inside. ;) 
Steven (in CC, I'm not sure he reads the ambassadors list) had done
that some time ago.

Any news on this, Steven ?


----------
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[Frankie Mangoa]

I think the idea of a passport is awesome. Infact i think if we can
get something with dimensions of the cd sleeve and then have a few
pages and then ending up with your cd or dvd at the end it would be
great.!!!!

This is something that should be looked into more seriously!!!

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Mathieu Bridon
<bochecha(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:54, Leonardo Menezes Vaz
>  <leonardo.vaz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >> The information inside it could be written a bit more generically, so as
> >> to not be "limited" to a specific release. Like you said, a bit about
> >> Free Software, a bit about Fedora, and why people should care and join.
> >
> > Excellent idea Fabio! Extending it a little bit: what about creating a
> > kind of reference card providing some useful information (installation
> > instructions, command line, useful link, whatever) in a double sided
> > A3. Folding this reference card the right way, we can ship LiveCD or
> > DVDs inside. ;)
>
>  Steven (in CC, I'm not sure he reads the ambassadors list) had done
>  that some time ago.
>
>  Any news on this, Steven ?
>
>
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[Zoltan Hoppar]

I'm also interested, and I say we could style it as in real passports.
Dedicating one part of the page for the ambassador who has helped to get it,
or have it a place to insert an complimentary card, or business card. With
this, I think could be a really hit, and an new weapon for our
merchandising.

2010/1/15 Frankie Mangoa <frankiemangoa(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  I think the idea of a passport is awesome. Infact i think if we can
>  get something with dimensions of the cd sleeve and then have a few
>  pages and then ending up with your cd or dvd at the end it would be
>  great.!!!!
>
>  This is something that should be looked into more seriously!!!
>
>  On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Mathieu Bridon
>  <bochecha(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:54, Leonardo Menezes Vaz
>  > <leonardo.vaz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >>> The information inside it could be written a bit more generically, so
>  as
>  >>> to not be "limited" to a specific release. Like you said, a bit
> about
>  >>> Free Software, a bit about Fedora, and why people should care and join.
>  >>
>  >> Excellent idea Fabio! Extending it a little bit: what about creating a
>  >> kind of reference card providing some useful information (installation
>  >> instructions, command line, useful link, whatever) in a double sided
>  >> A3. Folding this reference card the right way, we can ship LiveCD or
>  >> DVDs inside. ;)
>  >
>  > Steven (in CC, I'm not sure he reads the ambassadors list) had done
>  > that some time ago.
>  >
>  > Any news on this, Steven ?
>  >
>  >
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[threethirty]

The only problem I see with some of these other ideas is that it could
be really hard for individual ambassadors to create them at home.  My
original idea was to make this a $0 project, and to make it as easy as
possible.  They are all great ideas but I don't know how we can (if we
should) get these into the budget.

-- 
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On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 01:03 +0100, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
>  I'm also interested, and I say we could style it as in real
> passports.
>  Dedicating one part of the page for the ambassador who has helped to
>  get it, or have it a place to insert an complimentary card, or
>  business card. With this, I think could be a really hit, and an new
>  weapon for our merchandising. 
>  
>  2010/1/15 Frankie Mangoa <frankiemangoa(a)gmail.com&gt;
>          I think the idea of a passport is awesome. Infact i think if
>          we can
>          get something with dimensions of the cd sleeve and then have a
>          few
>          pages and then ending up with your cd or dvd at the end it
>          would be
>          great.!!!!
>          
>          This is something that should be looked into more seriously!!!
>          
>          
>          On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Mathieu Bridon
>          <bochecha(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>          > Hi,
>          >
>          > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:54, Leonardo Menezes Vaz
>          > <leonardo.vaz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>          >>> The information inside it could be written a bit more
>          generically, so as
>          >>> to not be "limited" to a specific release. Like you said,
>          a bit about
>          >>> Free Software, a bit about Fedora, and why people should
>          care and join.
>          >>
>          >> Excellent idea Fabio! Extending it a little bit: what about
>          creating a
>          >> kind of reference card providing some useful information
>          (installation
>          >> instructions, command line, useful link, whatever) in a
>          double sided
>          >> A3. Folding this reference card the right way, we can ship
>          LiveCD or
>          >> DVDs inside. ;)
>          >
>          > Steven (in CC, I'm not sure he reads the ambassadors list)
>          had done
>          > that some time ago.
>          >
>          > Any news on this, Steven ?
>          >
>          >
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DIY booklets for better info delivery

[shaun mallette]

Justin O'Brien wrote:
>  The only problem I see with some of these other ideas is that it
> could
>  be really hard for individual ambassadors to create them at home.  My
>  original idea was to make this a $0 project, and to make it as easy as
>  possible.  They are all great ideas but I don't know how we can (if we
>  should) get these into the budget.
>
>     
I actually agree with threethirty. This is a wonderful idea but will be 
hard for some or most
people to do on their own.

DIY booklets for better info delivery

[Frankie Mangoa]

Why cant the booklets just come from HQ then after that the only part
the ambassador has is maybe just printing a card and slotting it in
somewhere..sort if like the peal of stickers.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 6:17 AM, shaun mallette
<linuxinprojects(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Justin O'Brien wrote:
> > The only problem I see with some of these other ideas is that it could
> > be really hard for individual ambassadors to create them at home.  My
> > original idea was to make this a $0 project, and to make it as easy as
> > possible.  They are all great ideas but I don't know how we can (if we
> > should) get these into the budget.
> >
> >
>  I actually agree with threethirty. This is a wonderful idea but will be
>  hard for some or most
>  people to do on their own.
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>

DIY booklets for better info delivery

[Mathieu Bridon]

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 06:53, Frankie Mangoa <frankiemangoa(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Why cant the booklets just come from HQ 
Because before that can happen (or anything at all actually), someone
has to actually *do* something and create those.

This thread already has more than 15 emails in it, and all I see for
now is talk and what ifs. The only concrete realisation is the one
Steven made for F11.

Design by comitee doesn't work. All it will achieve is a /very/ long
talk on this list, and nothing concrete in the end. If you care about
this idea, just start doing it and report on your progress here, so
that others can give a hand (and by « give a hand » I mean « do
something to help », not just « give opinions »).

Once it's finished, we'll see how it can be used on the field and
answer some questions like « should it be made by EMEA/NA/APAC/LATAM
and sent to the ambassadors in this particular region ? ».

Like we say in development « talk is cheap, show me the code ». The
same applies here, show us something concrete. :)

Best regards,


----------
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[SPAM] Re: DIY booklets for better info delivery

[threethirty]

does anyone know of a good app for building templates like these I tried
doing it in OO.o but I am just don't have the right kung-fu to get it
done :(

On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 12:13 +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
>  On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 06:53, Frankie Mangoa
> <frankiemangoa(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > Why cant the booklets just come from HQ
>  
>  Because before that can happen (or anything at all actually), someone
>  has to actually *do* something and create those.
>  
>  This thread already has more than 15 emails in it, and all I see for
>  now is talk and what ifs. The only concrete realisation is the one
>  Steven made for F11.
>  
>  Design by comitee doesn't work. All it will achieve is a /very/ long
>  talk on this list, and nothing concrete in the end. If you care about
>  this idea, just start doing it and report on your progress here, so
>  that others can give a hand (and by « give a hand » I mean « do
>  something to help », not just « give opinions »).
>  
>  Once it's finished, we'll see how it can be used on the field and
>  answer some questions like « should it be made by EMEA/NA/APAC/LATAM
>  and sent to the ambassadors in this particular region ? ».
>  
>  Like we say in development « talk is cheap, show me the code ». The
>  same applies here, show us something concrete. :)
>  
>  Best regards,
>  
>  
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[SPAM] Re: DIY booklets for better info delivery

[Mel Chua]

On 01/16/2010 11:38 AM, Justin O'Brien wrote:
>  does anyone know of a good app for building templates like these I
> tried
>  doing it in OO.o but I am just don't have the right kung-fu to get it
>  done :( 
My first instinct is to take a look at Inkscape, hang out in 
#fedora-design and ask questions, and post sketches to 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team as you whip 
up prototypes. (If there's a better tool than Inkscape, the design folks 
will know. ;)

Threads like 
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-January/001639...., 
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-January/001660...., 
and 
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-January/001681.... 
are examples of how back-and-forth conversation happens while refining 
design ideas.

$0.02,

--Mel

DIY booklets for better info delivery

[David Ramsey]

Hello Everyone,

Greetings. :)

Thank you all for your posts.  :)


>  On 01/16/2010 11:38 AM, Justin O'Brien wrote:
> > does anyone know of a good app for building templates like these I tried
> > doing it in OO.o but I am just don't have the right kung-fu to get it
> > done :(
>  
Once, we have a prototype and/or strawman in the works, would be good to see how this
looks online as well as a couple sample prints.  Food for thought.  :)

>  My first instinct is to take a look at Inkscape, hang out in
>  #fedora-design and ask questions, and post sketches to
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team as you whip
>  up prototypes. (If there's a better tool than Inkscape, the design folks
>  will know. ;)
>  
Inkscape, great idea!  I did not know about Inkscape.  :)

>  Threads like
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-January/001639....,
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-January/001660....,
>  and
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-January/001681....
>  are examples of how back-and-forth conversation happens while refining
>  design ideas.
>  
Ah yes, the Artwork and Design, I like that!  :)

I also was so impressed by the Artwork's team, "HackergotchiService" -

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/HackergotchiService

I appreciate their support immensely.  :v)




Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~)



Thank You

Sincerely

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- David -

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David Ramsey

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[SPAM] Re: DIY booklets for better info delivery

[threethirty]

On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 22:48 -0200, Fabio Olive Leite wrote:
>  Olá!
>  
>  On 2010-01-07 Justin O'Brien wrote:
>  > 
>  > Ok Idea #1 is a booklet that I have hacked up a [terrible] alpha
>  > quality version of [url]. The idea is we make a quick intro guide to
>  > Free Software and the fedora project.
>  
>  How about a really small booklet, the size of a passport? Then we can
>  hand it out to people and say "Here's your passport to Free Software!".
>  
>  Passport size makes it impossible to include a CD (unless we include
>  a tiny 3" CD or DVD? hmmm) but it would look *damn* *cool*. A Fedora
>  Passport! :)
>  
>  The information inside it could be written a bit more generically, so as
>  to not be "limited" to a specific release. Like you said, a bit about
>  Free Software, a bit about Fedora, and why people should care and join.
>  
>  Cheers!
>  Fábio Olivé
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Lol that is awesome, but we may get mistaken for Gideon's
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_%28Bible%29) handing out Bibles :) 

-- 
Justin "threethirty" O'Brien
Fedora Ambassador
threethirty(a)fedoraproject.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Threethirty
threethirty on freenode.net
@threethirty - twitter/identi.ca/jaiku
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DIY booklets for better info delivery

[David Ramsey]

Hello Everyone,
 
Greetings. :)
 
Justin, your work looks good.  :)
 
>  I had this crazy idea of taking the idea of a 'zine and making it
> a useful tool for Ambassadors [and anyone else for that matter but I'm an Ambassador
> and short sighted :)]. These could be implemented at no cost to RHT/Fedora and could be
> done for fairly cheap (I think). 
 
For me, I have a quick Hewlett-Packard color printer which I may use.  :)
 
>  Ok Idea #1 is a booklet that I have hacked up a [terrible] alpha
> quality version of http://dl.dropbox.com/u/194299/Fedora%20Booklet.tar.bz2 The idea is we
> make a quick intro guide to Free Software and the fedora project. I was thinking 8-12
> pages printed on US Legal sized paper [8.5x14 (to allow for a nice full page to read
> from)] that was basically a subset of the wikipedia article on Free Software (so that it
> was neutral sounding) and most of the Overview wiki page. 
 
I have downloaded and untarred the content.  +1 for your work.  :)

>  Yes I know its on-line so why print it, well because people are lazy.
> Wiki's are great because they have a lot of information. Wiki's are also a PITA
> because they have a lot of information :) 
 
It is a good start.  :)

>  Another thing that could be done with this is as you are stapling it
> you could take a paper cd/dvd sleeve and add it to the mix, that way there was one thing
> to hand people. 
Based upon this template as well as whatever else gets update, I am able to print for my
location.  :)

>  Idea #2 is an "Ambassadors Field Guide" basically the same
> idea but would have a list of FAQ's and answers, a near total list of contacts for
> every sub project (I know this isn't totally feasible but I can dream can't I),
> the talking points for $currentRealease and $nextRealease, and anything else we can come
> up with that would be helpful to have in hand when we are talking to people. 
 
I usually try to route people to effective and useful Fedora information sources, too. 
:)

>  I think Idea #2 is absolutely suited to the DIY 'zine format
> because if you destroy it carting it around in your back pocket you can just print another
> one. 
 
For my people, I like to provide printed handouts.  :)

>  I know that anyone person could make both of these happen but I was
> hoping to pool the knowledge of others and hopefully get the art team involved so these
> could be a nice looking as possible. 
 
Very true on getting the art team involved.  I think that others concurred your thoughts. 
:)

I like the foldable cover as well as the five pages of content.  :)

I believe that your Fedora Booklet has great potential indeed.  :v)
 
Please have a great day! :~)
 
Thank You
Sincerely
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=-=-=-=-=
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[Máirín Duffy]

On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 15:33 -0600, inode0 wrote:
>  I'll be sending along some media and will include a couple of
> t-shirts
>  and some other swag. 
That will be great - maybe I can have an interactive part at the end
where people can 'win' the cooler swag like t-shirts :)

>  
>  PS Leave a chalk Fedora logo on the way out :) 
LOL absolutely :)

~m

[Máirín Duffy]

On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 16:21 -0500, Max Spevack wrote:
>  How much of your content do you have together?  Do you have a
> particular 
>  angle that you're going to pursue for your talk?  Is there anything that 
>  we can do to assist you? 
Not much yet, just a rough outline. I'm definitely going to angle it
very heavily towards getting started as a contributor - how to find
projects to work on and get involved.

When I have my slides ready, I would very much appreciate any
comments/feedback on them. I'll send them to the list!

>  Also, do you need any sort of swag?  If so, you should coordinate w/
> the 
>  NA Ambassadors to get your hands on some.
>  
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA#Get_SWAG
>  
>  I have a bunch of Fedora buttons, some of which I can mail you, separate 
>  from anything else. 
Oh that would be sweet! John Rose is going to get me F12 media to hand
out. There will be ~40 attending.

~m