Fedora EMEA Board Elections nominations | February 9th - February 21st

[Francesco Ugolini]

Starting from today to February 21st you can nominate yourselves* for
the Fedora EMEA Boards election that will be held at FOSDEM 2008 on
February 23rd.

For more information and to nominate yourselves visit
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/BoardElections .

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This is the first brick of a global and complex process to create
local organizations that will help ambassadors working better.

This entity born from the European community will after a long and
hard work made by great people who spent the last 3 year thinking
about a home for the ambassadors in Europe.

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Some Important INFOS (please read it):

FAmSCo is here to help each ambassador, everywhere. If you need help
(getting resources, organizing local activities, planning FAD
meetings, creating a local entity etc...) tell us: we are here
everyday, 365 days on 365 (send an email to the M-L, to
famsco(a)fedoraproject.org or contact a FAmSCo member directly).

This is a project based on community effort, if someone need help the
community is here to give its support.

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Regards

Francesco Ugolini

* see the requirements in the nominations wiki page

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>  Starting from today to February 21st you can nominate yourselves*
> for
>  the Fedora EMEA Boards election that will be held at FOSDEM 2008 on
>  February 23rd.
>  
>  For more information and to nominate yourselves visit
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/BoardElections .
>   
I'm up there. Who's next?

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip

[Matthias Kranz]

On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 00:57 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>  Starting from today to February 21st you can nominate yourselves*
> for
>  the Fedora EMEA Boards election that will be held at FOSDEM 2008 on
>  February 23rd.
>  
>  For more information and to nominate yourselves visit
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/BoardElections .
>  
>  ------
>  
>  This is the first brick of a global and complex process to create
>  local organizations that will help ambassadors working better. 
If these organizations are supposed to "help ambassadors working better"
it should be mentioned somewhere in the name. I mean "Fedora EMEA Board"
sounds a little bit "sophisticated". There are hundreds of people
involved in Fedora in EMEA. So, is it a Ambassador-only thing or not?

Matthias
-- 
Matthias Kranz
http://mkr.oerks.de

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Matthias Kranz wrote:
>  If these organizations are supposed to "help ambassadors working
> better"
>  it should be mentioned somewhere in the name. I mean "Fedora EMEA Board"
>  sounds a little bit "sophisticated". There are hundreds of people
>  involved in Fedora in EMEA. So, is it a Ambassador-only thing or not?
>   
Is this an Ambassador initiative? Yes.

Will it, as such, focus on what Ambassadors want/need? Yes.

Is Fedora EMEA limited (by rules, etc?) to aiding Ambassadors only? No.

This is the Ambassadors getting done what they need to get done, get 
some gears in motion, and once it is up and running, it could very well 
end up not being an Ambassador-only thing. FWIW, previously we've talked 
about EventBox and other Ambassador resources being shipped around in 
the EMEA area and other things like that, but while doing so, we also 
thought about the possibility (given enough financial resources of 
course) of reimbursing speakers (from the community), and invite them to 
an event. In this area, we have already thought about what the 
Ambassadors can do both for themselves as well as the rest of the 
community, but we cannot say that we will do so. It is too premature to 
make any statement as to what it is we can or will do, other then the 
things that the takers of the initiative want to get done.

You, as a community member, have a voice I think a board should listen 
to, and should you become a member of the NPO you even have a vote 
-hierarchically the board must listen to that. There's no limitation to 
who will be able to become a member -in that way, it isn't going to be 
an Ambassadors-only thing.

I hope this answers your question although I didn't give you a simple 
"yes" or "no".

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip

[Matthias Kranz]

On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 14:32 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>  Matthias Kranz wrote:
>  > If these organizations are supposed to "help ambassadors working better"
>  > it should be mentioned somewhere in the name. I mean "Fedora EMEA Board"
>  > sounds a little bit "sophisticated". There are hundreds of people
>  > involved in Fedora in EMEA. So, is it a Ambassador-only thing or not?
>  
>  Is this an Ambassador initiative? Yes.
>  
>  Will it, as such, focus on what Ambassadors want/need? Yes.
>  
>  Is Fedora EMEA limited (by rules, etc?) to aiding Ambassadors only? No.
>  
>  This is the Ambassadors getting done what they need to get done, get 
>  some gears in motion, and once it is up and running, it could very well 
>  end up not being an Ambassador-only thing. FWIW, previously we've talked 
>  about EventBox and other Ambassador resources being shipped around in 
>  the EMEA area and other things like that, but while doing so, we also 
>  thought about the possibility (given enough financial resources of 
>  course) of reimbursing speakers (from the community), and invite them to 
>  an event. In this area, we have already thought about what the 
>  Ambassadors can do both for themselves as well as the rest of the 
>  community, but we cannot say that we will do so. It is too premature to 
>  make any statement as to what it is we can or will do, other then the 
>  things that the takers of the initiative want to get done.
>  
>  You, as a community member, have a voice I think a board should listen 
>  to, and should you become a member of the NPO you even have a vote 
>  -hierarchically the board must listen to that. There's no limitation to 
>  who will be able to become a member -in that way, it isn't going to be 
>  an Ambassadors-only thing.
>  
>  I hope this answers your question although I didn't give you a simple 
>  "yes" or "no". 
Absolutely. Thanks for that.

But then I totally disagree with the fact that the instantiation of this
organization happens "in the background". Only people who attend FOSDEM
are allowed to vote and to candidate for the board.

Matthias
-- 
Matthias Kranz
http://mkr.oerks.de

[Sandro "red" Mathys]

Matthias Kranz wrote:
>  But then I totally disagree with the fact that the instantiation of
> this
>  organization happens "in the background". Only people who attend FOSDEM
>  are allowed to vote and to candidate for the board. 
Actually, we can't change anything about this (except we could do it at 
another time/place, but that wouldn't change too much). The law requires 
to have the people on-site when founding an association. If I understand 
the statutes correct, later votings must not necessarily be "offline". 
I'm not sure regarding board elections tho. Normally one needs to be 
physically present to be elected to the board AFAIK.

Someone with more knowledge of the German law should be able to correct me.

Regards
red