Re: [fedora-india] Re: Re: Need your help in organizing a Fedora Women Day event at Pune
On 29 June 2016 at 15:05, Priyanka Nag priynag@gmail.com wrote:
[1] Apologies that this part wasn't well explained previously but the list of talks that you see on the pirate pad, mainly under the 'Getting Started with your Fedora contribution' section are going to be flash talks for 5 mins each. Since we couldn't find existing female contributors in all of these different contribution pathways, to share their experience with us; a group of volunteers decided to try finding out details about these different contribution pathways, how to get started, the related IRC channels and mailing lists for each and finally give a 5 min presentation about their findings. This can save the rest of the audience's effort to do a complete research on the different contribution pathways (which is often the first barrier in contribution) and they should have most of the data at hand to now go back and start contributing. The FWD event was also thought of as a first step to initiating a consistent women contributor community, where each month we could take up one of these contribution pathways and make it as the flavor of the month...doing some actual hands-on contribution together for that chosen project or pathway. This can probably even be clubbed with the monthly Fedora meetups that we have in Pune. That ofcourse can be discussed in more details with the local ambassadors.
While getting local ambassadors in loop is useful from a logistics and/or budget perspective, what's more important here is to reach out to as many *existing* women contributors as possible (and as early as possible) so that you exhaust all of your options of getting qualified speakers (local or remote) before you resort to doing it yourself within Red Hat by reading up the wiki pages.
[2] The new speakers can try and do some actual contributions before the FWD event so that they can also share their experience (and blockers) at the event. They could also join the upcoming Fedora monthly meetup and release party, planned on 9th July, at Pune.
I can't see how that will work in practice. It surely took me more than 2 weeks to get myself into the various groups I am currently in, so actually doing something useful will have to come after that. In any case, that doesn't solve the issue I pointed out.
That said, please don't misunderstand my objection as an objection to anybody participating in the community. My point is that people should be encouraged to participate for the right reasons. That is, join the community to pitch in, learn and grow and not just gain credentials as a speaker, that too on the basis of being employed at the company that is hosting the event.
[3] The organizers are suggested to try reach out to college students (not just via emails or messages, but by physically going down to colleges) since this event can be a good place for new contributors to know how to get started with their contribution as well as meet other existing and experienced community members.
+1. I believe Red Hat has contacts in Cummins College for example. They have been active in the django and/or python community in the past IIRC, so I am sure they will look forward to the event. There are a number of women teachers in MITCOE who I am sure will be interested too. I'm sure there are other colleges we can reach out to.
[4] The organizers are also suggested to do more social media posts about the event, so as to create more awareness around this event.
Sure, but my first point stays: please make a bigger effort to reach out to existing women contributors to share their experiences.
[5] The new contributors and speakers can also join the Fedora telegram group, since not all of us are big IRC fans.
/me grumbles about these younglings not getting it...
Siddhesh
On 06/29/2016 10:44 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
On 29 June 2016 at 15:05, Priyanka Nag priynag@gmail.com wrote:
[1] Apologies that this part wasn't well explained previously but the list of talks that you see on the pirate pad, mainly under the 'Getting Started with your Fedora contribution' section are going to be flash talks for 5 mins each. Since we couldn't find existing female contributors in all of these different contribution pathways, to share their experience with us; a group of volunteers decided to try finding out details about these different contribution pathways, how to get started, the related IRC channels and mailing lists for each and finally give a 5 min presentation about their findings. This can save the rest of the audience's effort to do a complete research on the different contribution pathways (which is often the first barrier in contribution) and they should have most of the data at hand to now go back and start contributing. The FWD event was also thought of as a first step to initiating a consistent women contributor community, where each month we could take up one of these contribution pathways and make it as the flavor of the month...doing some actual hands-on contribution together for that chosen project or pathway. This can probably even be clubbed with the monthly Fedora meetups that we have in Pune. That ofcourse can be discussed in more details with the local ambassadors.
While getting local ambassadors in loop is useful from a logistics and/or budget perspective, what's more important here is to reach out to as many *existing* women contributors as possible (and as early as possible) so that you exhaust all of your options of getting qualified speakers (local or remote) before you resort to doing it yourself within Red Hat by reading up the wiki pages.
Thanks, I have reached out to the global fedora women contributors for the participation. As time zone is the issue to be live, so I have requested them for the recorded videos.
[2] The new speakers can try and do some actual contributions before the FWD event so that they can also share their experience (and blockers) at the event. They could also join the upcoming Fedora monthly meetup and release party, planned on 9th July, at Pune.
I can't see how that will work in practice. It surely took me more than 2 weeks to get myself into the various groups I am currently in, so actually doing something useful will have to come after that. In any case, that doesn't solve the issue I pointed out.
That said, please don't misunderstand my objection as an objection to anybody participating in the community.
Not at all, your suggestions are important to us And we are trying to be regular with our meetups so that it should not be just these 2 weeks or this event, but a on going process.
My point is that people should be encouraged to participate for the right reasons. That is, join the community to pitch in, learn and grow and not just gain credentials as a speaker, that too on the basis of being employed at the company that is hosting the event.
+1
[3] The organizers are suggested to try reach out to college students (not just via emails or messages, but by physically going down to colleges) since this event can be a good place for new contributors to know how to get started with their contribution as well as meet other existing and experienced community members.
+1. I believe Red Hat has contacts in Cummins College for example. They have been active in the django and/or python community in the past IIRC, so I am sure they will look forward to the event. There are a number of women teachers in MITCOE who I am sure will be interested too. I'm sure there are other colleges we can reach out to.
We have already reached out to django and/or python communities. I request you to please share the contacts for colleges, I tried getting the contacts multiple times but somehow could not get it.
[4] The organizers are also suggested to do more social media posts about the event, so as to create more awareness around this event.
Sure, but my first point stays: please make a bigger effort to reach out to existing women contributors to share their experiences.
I am sure, it will turn out well in form of the videos, I have requested.
[5] The new contributors and speakers can also join the Fedora telegram group, since not all of us are big IRC fans.
/me grumbles about these younglings not getting it...
Siddhesh
On 30 June 2016 at 10:56, Amita Sharma amsharma@redhat.com wrote:
Thanks, I have reached out to the global fedora women contributors for the participation. As time zone is the issue to be live, so I have requested them for the recorded videos.
If remote sessions are OK then the entire country is your proverbial oyster. That is, reach out to past and existing women FOSS contributors across the country (Runa, Sinny, Suparna to name a few that I personally admire) and ask if they could do a remote session even if it were 10-minutes long. The big reason to prefer local speakers is to provide a role model closer home because that makes the story easier to relate to.
The sequence I would go for in in terms of preference would be:
1. Women Fedora Contributors 2. Women FOSS Contributors 3. Any other fallback you prefer (videos of global Fedora/FOSS contributors, RH employees, etc.)
We have already reached out to django and/or python communities. I request you to please share the contacts for colleges, I tried getting the contacts multiple times but somehow could not get it.
I personally don't have contacts in Cummins College, but I know a couple of professors from MITCOE. I'll try to find their contact information (I know I've noted it somewhere, just can't remember where) and introduce them to you. For Cummins I suggest you talk to Rupali or Soni from the RH Pune office.
Siddhesh
On 06/30/2016 11:20 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
On 30 June 2016 at 10:56, Amita Sharma amsharma@redhat.com wrote:
Thanks, I have reached out to the global fedora women contributors for the participation. As time zone is the issue to be live, so I have requested them for the recorded videos.
If remote sessions are OK then the entire country is your proverbial oyster. That is, reach out to past and existing women FOSS contributors across the country (Runa, Sinny, Suparna to name a few that I personally admire) and ask if they could do a remote session even if it were 10-minutes long. The big reason to prefer local speakers is to provide a role model closer home because that makes the story easier to relate to.
The sequence I would go for in in terms of preference would be:
- Women Fedora Contributors
- Women FOSS Contributors
- Any other fallback you prefer (videos of global Fedora/FOSS
contributors, RH employees, etc.)
Okay, will work on this.
We have already reached out to django and/or python communities. I request you to please share the contacts for colleges, I tried getting the contacts multiple times but somehow could not get it.
I personally don't have contacts in Cummins College, but I know a couple of professors from MITCOE. I'll try to find their contact information (I know I've noted it somewhere, just can't remember where) and introduce them to you. For Cummins I suggest you talk to Rupali or Soni from the RH Pune office.
Sure, thanks Siddhesh.
Regards, Amita
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