thinking about the mentor program

[Ahsan]

Dear fellow ambassadors,

Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
oversee/suggest the interested persons ....

Hoping to get some positive answers :)

--
Md. Ahsanur Rashid,

Undergraduate Student,
Level-4, Term-1,
Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE),
Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET),
Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh.
Tel - ([phone]

Web: http://introspection.me.uk/

[susmit shannigrahi]

2008/7/10 Ahsan :
> Dear fellow ambassadors,
>
> Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
>
> Hoping to get some positive answers :)

We are working exactly on this right now.
Hope to send the first draft by today.
For more info please refer to
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-June/msg00253.h...
and
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme

[Sarbartha Sengupta]

susmit,
I am sarbartha from RCCIIT Beliaghata, Kolkata. My friend Dipanjan is also ambassador of fedora. As you know he and me approached to our college principle about this mentro programme. 
Our principle is quie interested to allow our student for this kind of project. But he wants a offitial mail from any fedora member except us (as we r student of this college) so u please 
send a mail for this project to [e-mail] and pls send a carbon copy of that mail to us at [e-mail] and [e-mail] thus we can approach again after sending your mail.
 
Thanks a lot,
Sarbartha

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, susmit shannigrahi  wrote:

From: susmit shannigrahi 
Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program
To: [e-mail]
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:51 AM

2008/7/10 Ahsan :
> Dear fellow ambassadors,
>
> Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
>
> Hoping to get some positive answers :)

We are working exactly on this right now.
Hope to send the first draft by today.
For more info please refer to
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-June/msg00253.h...
and
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme

[susmit shannigrahi]

2008/7/10 Sarbartha Sengupta :
> susmit,
>
> I am sarbartha from RCCIIT Beliaghata, Kolkata. My friend Dipanjan is also
> ambassador of fedora. As you know he and me approached to our college
> principle about this mentro programme.
>
> Our principle is quie interested to allow our student for this kind of
> project. But he wants a offitial mail from any fedora member except us (as
> we r student of this college) so u please
>
> send a mail for this project to [e-mail] and pls send a
> carbon copy of that mail to us at [e-mail] and
> [e-mail] thus we can approach again after sending your
> mail.

Bro, wait a bit, I am preparing the draft. As soon as it is completed,
I shall mail you.
Thanks.

[Tushar Neupaney]

Dear Ahsan,

Why don't you come to our program in Dharan, Nepal. We are organizing a
workshop on August second week. Maybe you have seen my thread.

This will be a great opportunity for both of us. There is no registration
charge and lodging is something I can manage(But let me know how many are
interested first). You can come by bus (We don't pay any transport charges,
sorry). It does not take you more than 3000 Indian Currency each for both
way travel.

I can provide you itinerary and other details if you and your friend are
interested.

Tushar.

On 10/07/2008, Ahsan  wrote:
> Dear fellow ambassadors,
>
> Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
>
> Hoping to get some positive answers :)
>
> --
> Md. Ahsanur Rashid,
>
> Undergraduate Student,
> Level-4, Term-1,
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE),
> Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET),
> Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh.
> Tel - ([phone]
>
> Web: http://introspection.me.uk/
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[Ahsan]

Dear Tushar,

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I havent noticed your thread.

To be realistic, most of the students here dont have any passport and it
will be a bit difficult for them to go to Nepal in August. (Our term begins
on the 26th instant).

Nevertheless  I will talk with my friends and let you know.

Thanks and have a nice time.

--
Md. Ahsanur Rashid,

Undergraduate Student,
Level-4, Term-1,
Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE),
Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET),
Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh.
Tel - ([phone]

Web: http://introspection.me.uk/

2008/7/10 Tushar Neupaney :
> Dear Ahsan,
>
> Why don't you come to our program in Dharan, Nepal. We are organizing a
> workshop on August second week. Maybe you have seen my thread.
>
> This will be a great opportunity for both of us. There is no registration
> charge and lodging is something I can manage(But let me know how many are
> interested first). You can come by bus (We don't pay any transport charges,
> sorry). It does not take you more than 3000 Indian Currency each for both
> way travel.
>
> I can provide you itinerary and other details if you and your friend are
> interested.
>
> Tushar.
>
> On 10/07/2008, Ahsan  wrote:
> > Dear fellow ambassadors,
> >
> > Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> > volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> > some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> > oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
> >
> > Hoping to get some positive answers :)
> >
> > --
> > Md. Ahsanur Rashid,
> >
> > Undergraduate Student,
> > Level-4, Term-1,
> > Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE),
> > Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET),
> > Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh.
> > Tel - ([phone]
> >
> > Web: http://introspection.me.uk/
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
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[mak]

2008/7/10 Ahsan :
> Dear fellow ambassadors,
>
> Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
>
> Hoping to get some positive answers :)

I'm extremely sorry, I missed this thread. We do have plenty of traffic in
Fedora-Ambassador list. That's why I use to check mails under
Fedora-Ambassador label (in my Gmail) once in a day or two.

As being a Fedora Ambassador in Bangladesh, it would've been me to answer
first for Ahsanur Rashid. My apologies.

Hello Mr. Ahsanur Rashid,
I'm very much excited to hear that you (and your friends) want to volunteer
for FEDORA (let's say Fedoraproject). I'll love to help you in this regard,
I can arrange an event for this at your Canteen or at my office (can be
convert into a mid-size gathering facility for 10 person).

We have had arranged "Fedora 9 Release Party at FREPD Auditorium near
Pallasy Crossing" withing walking distnce from your University. You might
haven't notice various Bangladeshi Mailing List.

Anyway, please let us know if we can arrange something for you after your
term finals.

[Ahsan]

Dear MAK,

Thanks for your mail.

I meant the class of our next term start from 26th instant

Yes, I didnt miss the news of your party..but due to exams i couldnt be
there.

Since we are cse students, the best thing that can be done is  arranging
some workshop or the like on getting started on the fedora project. Say,
things like how to code for fedora...and other technical know-hows..

Please let me know if anything can be done!

Thanks and have a nice time.

--
Md. Ahsanur Rashid,

Undergraduate Student,
Level-4, Term-1,
Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE),
Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET),
Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh.
Tel - ([phone]

Web: http://introspection.me.uk/

2008/7/11 mak :
> 2008/7/10 Ahsan :
> > Dear fellow ambassadors,
> >
> > Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> > volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> > some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> > oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
> >
> > Hoping to get some positive answers :)
>
> I'm extremely sorry, I missed this thread. We do have plenty of traffic in
> Fedora-Ambassador list. That's why I use to check mails under
> Fedora-Ambassador label (in my Gmail) once in a day or two.
>
> As being a Fedora Ambassador in Bangladesh, it would've been me to answer
> first for Ahsanur Rashid. My apologies.
>
> Hello Mr. Ahsanur Rashid,
> I'm very much excited to hear that you (and your friends) want to volunteer
> for FEDORA (let's say Fedoraproject). I'll love to help you in this regard,
> I can arrange an event for this at your Canteen or at my office (can be
> convert into a mid-size gathering facility for 10 person).
>
> We have had arranged "Fedora 9 Release Party at FREPD Auditorium near
> Pallasy Crossing" withing walking distnce from your University. You might
> haven't notice various Bangladeshi Mailing List.
>
> Anyway, please let us know if we can arrange something for you after your
> term finals.
>
> --
> Regards
> mak
>
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[mak]

2008/7/10 Ahsan :
> Dear fellow ambassadors,
>
> Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
>
> Hoping to get some positive answers :)

I'm extremely sorry, I missed this thread. We do have plenty of traffic in
Fedora-Ambassador list. That's why I use to check mails under
Fedora-Ambassador label (in my Gmail) once in a day or two.

As being a Fedora Ambassador in Bangladesh, it would've been me to answer
first for Ahsanur Rashid. My apologies.

Hello Mr. Ahsanur Rashid,
I'm very much excited to hear that you (and your friends) want to volunteer
for FEDORA (let's say Fedoraproject). I'll love to help you in this regard,
I can arrange an event for this at your Canteen or at my office (can be
convert into a mid-size gathering facility for 10 person).

We have had arranged "Fedora 9 Release Party at FREPD Auditorium near
Pallasy Crossing" withing walking distnce from your University. You might
haven't notice various Bangladeshi Mailing List.

Anyway, please let us know if we can arrange something for you after your
term finals.

[Francesco Ugolini]

2008/7/10 Ahsan :
> Dear fellow ambassadors,
>
> Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
> Hoping to get some positive answers :)
>
> Md. Ahsanur Rashid,
>
> Undergraduate Student,
> Level-4, Term-1,
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE),
> Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET),
> Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh.
> Tel - ([phone]
>
> Web: http://introspection.me.uk/
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

Thank you for this mail.

In the past we tried with a global mentor program but it didn't have
the success we wanted.

What you ask, and all the replies I read in this thread, underline the
importance of a local Mentor system.

FAmSCo, in this way, is listening all the opinion that comes around
the world and it's available to be a point of reference in the process
of the creation of a Local mentor program.

What Susmit (the links he gave are the right ones) said are good news,
and in the past months he and the APAC community started a
constructive discussion around localization.

FAmSCo is here to hear you request and give a helpfull hand. If you
have specific requests/questions/proposal about this issue, fell free
to write here (in this list) or contact FAmSCo, it's important your
opinion and your actions to help it working concretely for you.

Regards

Francesco Ugolini

[Ahsan]

hi..thanks for the mail...

i think you should also consider an academic program as well

Students will be able to work on FEDORA project as pert of their term
project !

also, internship  maybe iontroduced with certificates given, studetns
appreciate certificates.

a effective region based mentoring system might be started ...and then we
can move on to a local mentoring system.

the important thing is, the mentoring system needs to be implemented anew
asap. this way more students can take part.

thanks and have a nice time.
--
Md. Ahsanur Rashid,

Undergraduate Student,
Level-4, Term-1,
Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE),
Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET),
Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh.
Tel - ([phone]

Web: http://introspection.me.uk/

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Francesco Ugolini <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> 2008/7/10 Ahsan :
> > Dear fellow ambassadors,
> >
> > Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will
> > volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there...
> > some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to
> > oversee/suggest the interested persons ....
> > Hoping to get some positive answers :)
> >
> > Md. Ahsanur Rashid,
> >
> > Undergraduate Student,
> > Level-4, Term-1,
> > Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE),
> > Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET),
> > Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh.
> > Tel - ([phone]
> >
> > Web: http://introspection.me.uk/
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> Thank you for this mail.
>
> In the past we tried with a global mentor program but it didn't have
> the success we wanted.
>
> What you ask, and all the replies I read in this thread, underline the
> importance of a local Mentor system.
>
> FAmSCo, in this way, is listening all the opinion that comes around
> the world and it's available to be a point of reference in the process
> of the creation of a Local mentor program.
>
> What Susmit (the links he gave are the right ones) said are good news,
> and in the past months he and the APAC community started a
> constructive discussion around localization.
>
> FAmSCo is here to hear you request and give a helpfull hand. If you
> have specific requests/questions/proposal about this issue, fell free
> to write here (in this list) or contact FAmSCo, it's important your
> opinion and your actions to help it working concretely for you.
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[Dipanjan Chakraborty]

The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to approach
them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he will come up
with a solution soon.
No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough projects
for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point.

Dipanjan Chakraborty
> Thank you for this mail.
>
> In the past we tried with a global mentor program but it didn't have
> the success we wanted.
>
> What you ask, and all the replies I read in this thread, underline the
> importance of a local Mentor system.
>
> FAmSCo, in this way, is listening all the opinion that comes around
> the world and it's available to be a point of reference in the process
> of the creation of a Local mentor program.
>
> What Susmit (the links he gave are the right ones) said are good news,
> and in the past months he and the APAC community started a
> constructive discussion around localization.
>
> FAmSCo is here to hear you request and give a helpfull hand. If you
> have specific requests/questions/proposal about this issue, fell free
> to write here (in this list) or contact FAmSCo, it's important your
> opinion and your actions to help it working concretely for you.
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[ankit govil]

hi friends,
I would suggest that in think fedora is never short of project its just how
we begin.If we mentor a student a student in college for 2 years and ask him
to mentor his mates for later years this way a long lasting chain can be
developed.
Moreover, certificates is something which every students appreciate as it
improves students resume.I think this way it will work in India where
students wants to shift to Linux but don't have right guidance to help them
out. Moreover ambassdors can conduct some training session in their region
to promote fedora.
Regards,
Ankit Govil

2008/7/15 Dipanjan Chakraborty :
> The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to approach
> them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he will come up
> with a solution soon.
> No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough projects
> for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point.
>
> Dipanjan Chakraborty
> > Thank you for this mail.
> >
> > In the past we tried with a global mentor program but it didn't have
> > the success we wanted.
> >
> > What you ask, and all the replies I read in this thread, underline the
> > importance of a local Mentor system.
> >
> > FAmSCo, in this way, is listening all the opinion that comes around
> > the world and it's available to be a point of reference in the process
> > of the creation of a Local mentor program.
> >
> > What Susmit (the links he gave are the right ones) said are good news,
> > and in the past months he and the APAC community started a
> > constructive discussion around localization.
> >
> > FAmSCo is here to hear you request and give a helpfull hand. If you
> > have specific requests/questions/proposal about this issue, fell free
> > to write here (in this list) or contact FAmSCo, it's important your
> > opinion and your actions to help it working concretely for you.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[Rahul Sundaram]

Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote:
> The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to 
> approach them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he 
> will come up with a solution soon.
> No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough 
> projects for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point.

There are tons of projects to do. One instance would be

http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/116-Red-Hat,-Seneca-Colleg...

List of projects suggested:

http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Potential_Projects

Rahul

[Dipanjan Chakraborty]

I think there has been a misunderstanding. What I meant was: are all
projects of the level of undergraduate students?

Dipanjan Chakraborty

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram 
wrote:
> Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote:
> > The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to
> > approach them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he will
> > come up with a solution soon.
> > No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough
> > projects for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point.
>
> There are tons of projects to do. One instance would be
>
> http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/116-Red-Hat,-Seneca-Colleg...
>
> List of projects suggested:
>
> http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Potential_Projects
>
> Rahul
>
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[Rahul Sundaram]

Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote:
> I think there has been a misunderstanding. What I meant was: are all 
> projects of the level of undergraduate students?

That depends on the skill set and interest of the students involved and 
cannot be generalized. There are projects at various levels and I am 
sure they can find a few they would be interested in.

Rahul

[sankarshan]

Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote:
> The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to 
> approach them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he 
> will come up with a solution soon.

By 'officially' if you mean in the same fashion as any software 
development company in your local area approaches the college, then it 
might be sometime before we arrive at a process for that. Susmit is 
still at the initial stages of a discussion around the issue.
> No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough 
> projects for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point.

We can't work on 'this' point till we arrive at some sort of conclusion 
as to how much pre-loaded with knowledge the target students are. Have 
they been doing a variety of thing around OS or applications ? If yes, 
then they are easily pointed to various projects (rather, I'd argue that 
in this case they would be the ones coming up with various projects). 
 From whatever my limited comprehension of the education system and 
colleges is, this isn't the case (in India) in a majority of the 
colleges in India. On the fedora-india list there is an ongoing 
discussion about how best to ramp up the skillsets of the potential 
candidates participating in this program. A large part of that is being 
inspired by what is happening on #dgplug and its IRC classes. Perhaps 
you'd like to latch on to that thread.

As we stand now, we are trying to roll a program for an audience about 
whom we don't know much, and barring the 'we'd like official contact' 
nothing much is known about the authorities who would accept this program.

[Dipanjan Chakraborty]

Its not that 'official'. They would like somebody not related to the college
to approach them.

Dipanjan Chakraborty

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:49 AM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote:
> > The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to
> > approach them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he will
> > come up with a solution soon.
>
> By 'officially' if you mean in the same fashion as any software development
> company in your local area approaches the college, then it might be sometime
> before we arrive at a process for that. Susmit is still at the initial
> stages of a discussion around the issue.
>
> No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough
> > projects for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point.
>
> We can't work on 'this' point till we arrive at some sort of conclusion as
> to how much pre-loaded with knowledge the target students are. Have they
> been doing a variety of thing around OS or applications ? If yes, then they
> are easily pointed to various projects (rather, I'd argue that in this case
> they would be the ones coming up with various projects). From whatever my
> limited comprehension of the education system and colleges is, this isn't
> the case (in India) in a majority of the colleges in India. On the
> fedora-india list there is an ongoing discussion about how best to ramp up
> the skillsets of the potential candidates participating in this program. A
> large part of that is being inspired by what is happening on #dgplug and its
> IRC classes. Perhaps you'd like to latch on to that thread.
>
> As we stand now, we are trying to roll a program for an audience about whom
> we don't know much, and barring the 'we'd like official contact' nothing
> much is known about the authorities who would accept this program.
>
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