On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Sijis Aviles sijis@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I looked at staged website[1], and each region page has a "Region-wide Resources" section and that points to the region's wiki page, for example EMEA[2]. Maybe from that region's wiki page it could go into further details as you described.
Right. But that is way harder to find out which other regional resources are available apart for the single one listed in the main page.
Let's compare the experience about finding my Fedora Regional Team resources with our friends at Ubuntu.com.
Ubuntu: 1. go to ubuntu.com 2. click on "Community" 3. scroll and click on "Local Ubuntu Teams" (goes to wiki) 4. Find Italy and follow the links to site, mailing list, wiki, forum, etc...
Fedora (now) 1. go to fedoraproject.org 2. not sure how obvious is this, I click Communicate 3. click "Community Websites" (goes to a section", the again on "Community Websites" link 4. click on "International" 5. Find Italy, 4 sites listed only one actually a community site, no mention or links to other kind of resources.
Fedora (redesigned) 1. go to fedoraproject.org 2. click on "Community" I guess this will link to fedoracommunity.org) 3. Select the region 4. find Italy, only one website listed 5. figure you need to click on the EMEA link (goes to wiki) 6. find Italy and follow the links to site, mailing list, wiki, forum, etc.
I still think making a shortcut from 4 to 6 in this last list is a better solution, easier to figure out.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Gianluca Sforna giallu@gmail.com wrote:
I still think making a shortcut from 4 to 6 in this last list is a better solution, easier to figure out.
And not the least, easier to maintain, since the majority of changes in content will happen in the wiki
Hi Gianluca!
Thanks for this discussion :)
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 11:32 +0200, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
Fedora (redesigned)
- go to fedoraproject.org
- click on "Community" I guess this will link to fedoracommunity.org)
It will, but not directly. There will probably be a banner ad or something like that on the www.fpo/community page to drive traffic to fedoracommunity.org.
- Select the region
- find Italy, only one website listed
Are there more Italian websites we should be linking to? I used the following wiki page to populate the site:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/International
I tested every website on that page. You'll note two of the four websites there are not functional as clearly noted. Since I went through that wiki page it looks like this site has been added, should I added it to Fedoracommunity.org?
http://www.adamantio.net/modules.php?name=News&file=topics&topic=47
I've already posted a couple of calls for help on the ambassadors list - for folks to go over the site and let us know if we were missing anything - and of course we are still open to more suggestions!!
- figure you need to click on the EMEA link (goes to wiki)
- find Italy and follow the links to site, mailing list, wiki, forum, etc.
I don't understand your steps 5 & 6 above. There are general region-wide resources at the top of the EMEA page. As far as I know there is NO mailing list / wiki / forum for Italy. If there is, can you please let me know? I'll be more than happy to add them.
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2010/8/27 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org:
Thanks for this discussion :)
And thank you for picking it up :)
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 11:32 +0200, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
Fedora (redesigned)
- go to fedoraproject.org
- click on "Community" I guess this will link to fedoracommunity.org)
It will, but not directly. There will probably be a banner ad or something like that on the www.fpo/community page to drive traffic to fedoracommunity.org.
OK. then it's one more click to find regional resources
- Select the region
- find Italy, only one website listed
Are there more Italian websites we should be linking to? I used the following wiki page to populate the site:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/International
I tested every website on that page. You'll note two of the four websites there are not functional as clearly noted.
Yeah I noted that work and I wondered if it was you... Then please take into account the additional data (not just for Italy) from:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicating_and_getting_help#Regional_Resou...
we have several regional specific IRC channels and mailing lists.
I'm not sure if there are more, if you think this is useful I can check IRC channel listing and mailman pages to see if there are more.
Since I went through that wiki page it looks like this site has been added, should I added it to Fedoracommunity.org?
http://www.adamantio.net/modules.php?name=News&file=topics&topic=47
Content does not look very current there, for now I'd leave it out.
I've already posted a couple of calls for help on the ambassadors list - for folks to go over the site and let us know if we were missing anything - and of course we are still open to more suggestions!!
Yeah, sorry for lurking for so long... In return for your kindness, I'll volunteer to help building the regional wiki pages hierarchy in case we agree that's an useful thing to have.
- figure you need to click on the EMEA link (goes to wiki)
- find Italy and follow the links to site, mailing list, wiki, forum, etc.
I don't understand your steps 5 & 6 above. There are general region-wide resources at the top of the EMEA page.
Point 5 refers to clicking on the general, region wide link Sijis suggested as well. Point 6 assumes we already added to that landing wiki page the data related to each regional team.
As far as I know there is NO mailing list / wiki / forum for Italy. If there is, can you please let me know? I'll be more than happy to add them.
In the page linked above we have references to IRC and mailing list.
The team had a lengthy discussion about building a wiki and a forum (we have secured fedoraproject.it). About the first one I'm pushing to keep using fpo one, for the second the fedoraonline guys are already doing a good job, but I'm interested in attempting to build the mailing list -> forum like interface based on drupal you blogged about some time ago in a effort to bridge the more experienced audience with new users.
Since nothing of this is online, I think we can just talk about it later.
Thank you very much for your great work
G.
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