[RFC] Newslater template for Fedoranews.

[susmit shannigrahi]

Hi,

I was just thinking about it.
Currently, It is sent as a plaintext mail.
A nice template and sending it as a newslater can make it more
professional looking.
I think we can work on it...

What do you think?

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[Oisin Feeley]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:57 AM, susmit shannigrahi
<thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  I was just thinking about it.
>  Currently, It is sent as a plaintext mail.
>  A nice template and sending it as a newslater can make it more
>  professional looking.
>  I think we can work on it...
>
>  What do you think? 
CC'ing this to @fedora-news.

Thanks for the suggestion Susmit.  Any help with FWN is welcome.  I'm
not sure exactly what you are proposing though.

If you mean a table-based HTML email then I'd welcome such as an
_additional_ option for subscribers.  A large number of people are
going to prefer a plaintext email however as such is readable in e.g.
mutt, alpine.

But, there's no doubt that some people crave HTML email.  So, if
someone wants to work on this then that would be awesome.  Sitepoint
has some good information[1] for anyone interested in doing this.

A more pressing priority for any design-inclined people would be to
improve our wiki layout somehow.  Recently we did a little
brainstorming on IRC following suggestions from Thorsten Leemhuis and
reformatted a little but there's obviously more to be done and we have
not yet worked up a proposal to put to the art team. If anyone is
interested in improving our layout[2] with a nice MediaWiki template
then that would also be of great interest to us.

Discussion on @fedora-news of the topic would be welcome.

[1] http://www.sitepoint.com/article/code-html-email-newsletters/

[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/LatestIssue

Best wishes,
Oisín Feeley

[susmit shannigrahi]

>  CC'ing this to @fedora-news.
>
>  Thanks for the suggestion Susmit.  Any help with FWN is welcome.  I'm
>  not sure exactly what you are proposing though. 
I was suggesting that putting the content of FWN into a openoffice
newslatter template,
converting that into suitable format (pdf/jpg) and mail it.



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[Oisin Feeley]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:40 AM, susmit shannigrahi
<thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> > CC'ing this to @fedora-news.
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion Susmit.  Any help with FWN is welcome.  I'm
> > not sure exactly what you are proposing though.
>
>  I was suggesting that putting the content of FWN into a openoffice
>  newslatter template,
>  converting that into suitable format (pdf/jpg) and mail it. 
Would you be interested in taking charge of this?

Best wishes,

Oisín

[susmit shannigrahi]

>  Would you be interested in taking charge of this? 
Initially for getting it going, yes.


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[susmit shannigrahi]

Hi,

I was talking about something like this:
http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/FedoraNews/FedoraNews.pdf

The template is also available at the same directory.
Thanks.


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[Rangeen Basu]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM, susmit shannigrahi <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com
>  wrote: 
>  Hi,
>
>  I was talking about something like this:
>  http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/FedoraNews/FedoraNews.pdf
>
>  The template is also available at the same directory.
>  Thanks.
>
>  That is catchy and more exciting to read than plain text. 
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[Vincent Van der Kussen]

On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 22:25 +0530, Rangeen Basu wrote:
>  
>  
>  On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM, susmit shannigrahi
>  <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>          Hi,
>          
>          I was talking about something like this:
>          http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/FedoraNews/FedoraNews.pdf
>          
>          The template is also available at the same directory.
>          Thanks.
>          
>          
>          
>  That is catchy and more exciting to read than plain text. 
>  
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>  
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>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list 
I would leave the newsletter as it exists today. One text based mail
that's readable for everyone, and one on the fedoraproject website in
html format which is "easier" to read.

Distributing a Fedora Magazine in PDF is something i'm more a fan of.

This is of course, just my opinion.

Vincent.

[sankarshan]

[should this move to Fedora Marketing really ?]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:27 PM, susmit shannigrahi
<thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  I was just thinking about it.
>  Currently, It is sent as a plaintext mail. 
The plain text is a good thing because, it could also be automated to
be sent out to all Ambassadors (and, those who choose to receive it
via a subscribe_to_newsletter link on the site) and, a whole lot of
folks like plain text. I know I do ;)

>  A nice template and sending it as a newslater can make it more
>  professional looking.
>  I think we can work on it...
>
>  What do you think? 
That makes it an easy document to print out and put up at the various
LUGs that are at Universities etc. So, it is a win as well. Brilliant
idea though.

Do you also want to ask the beat writers about their opinion ?


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[Andrew Jamison]

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susmit shannigrahi wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  I was just thinking about it.
>  Currently, It is sent as a plaintext mail.
>  A nice template and sending it as a newslater can make it more
>  professional looking.
>  I think we can work on it...
>  
>  What do you think?
>   
I for one am against HTML email as it slows things down. Now if you sent
it  plain text and maybe had a link to a HTML version hosted on the web
somewhere i would be cool with it but this is just my opinion.

thanks,
Andrew
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[susmit shannigrahi]

> >
>  I for one am against HTML email as it slows things down. Now if you sent
>  it  plain text and maybe had a link to a HTML version 
I was thinking of a pdf :)

> hosted on the web
>  somewhere i would be cool with it but this is just my opinion. 



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[Frank Murphy]

susmit shannigrahi wrote:
> > I for one am against HTML email as it slows things down. Now if
> you sent
> > it  plain text and maybe had a link to a HTML version
>  
>  I was thinking of a pdf :) 
Is not pdf patented?

Frank

[Andrew Jamison]

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susmit shannigrahi wrote:
> > I for one am against HTML email as it slows things down. Now if
> you sent
> > it  plain text and maybe had a link to a HTML version
>  
>  I was thinking of a pdf :)
>   
See to me that would work better. Some people on slow connections can do
not want to sit and wait for the images to download and some clients
block images anyway. So yeah linking to a PDF make alot more sense to me

thanks,
Andrew
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[Oisin Feeley]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Andrew Jamison <linux(a)blogmethat.net&gt; wrote:

>  I for one am against HTML email as it slows things down. Now if you
> sent
>  it  plain text and maybe had a link to a HTML version hosted on the web
>  somewhere i would be cool with it but this is just my opinion. 
Currently we do exactly that: we send out a plaintext mail and
provided the same information formatted in a slightly nicer way on the
wiki. I agree with your general point.

As an aside any attempt to provide a different format needs to be
either completely automatic or else to have somebody to commit to
doing any munging which needs to be done.

Best,
Oisín Feeley

[Horst H. von Brand]

Andrew Jamison <linux(a)blogmethat.net&gt; wrote:
>  susmit shannigrahi wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  > 
>  > I was just thinking about it.
>  > Currently, It is sent as a plaintext mail.
>  > A nice template and sending it as a newslater can make it more
>  > professional looking.
>  > I think we can work on it...
>  > 
>  > What do you think?
>  > 
>  I for one am against HTML email as it slows things down. Now if you sent
>  it  plain text and maybe had a link to a HTML version hosted on the web
>  somewhere i would be cool with it but this is just my opinion. 
Reading HTML mail here (emacs or xemacs and MH-E) is very unconfortable.
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[Ashok Gautham]

I like the idea. But please make the pdf complete with clickable links. If
not, it just becomes beautiful plain text!

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