We're going to use the Fedora Project wiki for uploading photos. This
ensures that people who are submitting photos have indeed signed the
CLA. I discussed the alternatives with Mo and it seemed like the wiki
was a good solution, and Infrastructure stated that the amount of
storage space shouldn't be a problem.
(I'd like if people did not submit photos until after the FUDCon ones go
up, but I can't really stop people from that.)
Procedures are available at
Let me know if you think they should be changed. I've got a watch on the
page. Media in a category automatically shows up in a gallery format --
after they enter the "to be approved" category, we can move them to
different categories as necessary to sort out the incoming images. I'm
thinking different levels of usability, a rating from 1 to 3, one being
the most usable.
The nice thing about the wiki is that people who can make the photo of
higher quality can do so just by reuploading a photo for that filename.
We also need to appoint who is able to "approve" and sort the photos
into the rating categories. Something akin to the Fedora package review
process would be good -- a list of requirements, a list of people who
can review, and the process goes from there.
Questions, comments, flames?
(And, as a final comment -- let's hold off on the production-related
discussions until probably a week or two from now when we're done
sorting the FUDCon photos.)
Ian Weller <ianweller(a)gmail.com> http://ianweller.org
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Concerning the Fedora Picture Book....
I have heard from several dozen printers and
publishers over the last several weeks. There
are several things I would like to comment on:
1. Using a printer or print-run publisher
would be unfeasible because we would have to
store and ship books ourselves, to say nothing
of mailing costs.
2. Using a POD Publisher, such a Lulu or
iUniverse is probably the most readily available
option, but it would be the most expensive. For
instance, for a 130 page full color book, Lulu
would charge $30.50 per book. Anything we make
would be added on to that base cost. Most of the
other top POD Publishers charge a set fee, such
as BookSurge a $499.00 color book package.
3. Using the same POD publishers, if we went with
a color cover but black and white interior, the
price would drop substantially: Lulu - $8.75 per
book after their setup fee.
4. The most economical option would be to go to
the POD publishing source itself, which is Lightning
Source. They are the printer/distributor for
most of the POD Publishers, including Lulu. The
drawback here is that we would have to commit to
publishing more than one book. If we use Lightning
Source the base cost for the full color book would
be $6.80 per book. We could sell it for $14.00, not
an unreasonable price and make over $7.00 a book. Our
costs would be $144.00 up front for their set-up costs.
As you can see, we would only have to sell a couple
dozen books to recoup that cost.
5. Perhaps, if we used Lightning Source we could do
a Picture Book for each Fedora Release. "The people
of Fedora 11," then use the same event photos, but
add pictures and bios of core developers, Red Hat
people, other Project members, etc.
I have created a breakdown of the whole process, with
cost comparisons. Plus some ideas I had about adding
new writers and perhaps artists if we go with some
sort of publishing project. I will add links to these
documents on the Picture Book wiki, asap.
Here are the links if anyone is interested:
What does anybody think?
-- w Douglas Berry --
--- On Mon, 1/5/09, Max Spevack <mspevack(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> At this dollar figure, is it better to just produce them
> and hand them out as gifts to the community? We're not
> talking about huge amounts of money here (comparatively).
Exactly. Maybe the first bound book as a community give-a-way.
We'd have to eat the cost of that. Then after that we wouldn't
have to do only bound books -- we could create a 40 page picture
magazine; say one for NA; one for EMEA. When you get into
bound matter the cost goes up pretty quick. A zine would
be easier because you don't have as much to deal with like
the gullies and tight margins of a bound book. Just a thought....
-- w Douglas Berry --
To end 2008 with a cherry on top, the Fedora Project is glad to announce the
release of the 4th issue of Fedora Brazil Magazine. This issue brings a
editorial written by Augusto Campos, who draws a retrospective review of
Fedora's 5 years and he presents a picture of how it changed the Linux
Distributions ecosystem after Fedora's first release announcement.
Furthermore, the magazine displays a special approach to the brand new
Fedora 10, presenting it in a clearly and simply way all new features and
changes of this new release. Enjoy yourself and take part of Fedora Brazil
Magazine's promotion and compete for a copy of the book "*Java –
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Shell script classes continues. There is also a stroll through SELinux
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Happy new year and do not forget to download the magazine in the link below:
P.S.: Scribus source in the beginning of January.
Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior
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