F9 Beta blog for press.redhat.com?

[Kerrin Catallozzi]

Hi All- I know that the beta release for Fedora 9 is upcoming -- still 
on 3/20, right?  We announced the F9 Alpha release on press.redhat.com 
(http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/02/05/help-shape-fedora-9-alpha-release-...),

so I was thinking we should do the same for the beta release.  I'm happy 
to take a stab at a draft working from the beta release notes, but if 
anyone else wants to give it a try, that works too.  We'd be posting 
under the "Fedora Team" name.  Let me know what you think.

thanks,
Kerri

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[Jonathan Roberts]

On 12/03/2008, Kerrin Catallozzi <kcatallo(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi All- I know that the beta release for Fedora 9 is upcoming --
> still
>   on 3/20, right?  We announced the F9 Alpha release on press.redhat.com
>  
> (http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/02/05/help-shape-fedora-9-alpha-release-...),
>   so I was thinking we should do the same for the beta release.  I'm happy
>   to take a stab at a draft working from the beta release notes, but if
>   anyone else wants to give it a try, that works too.  We'd be posting
>   under the "Fedora Team" name.  Let me know what you think. 
Go for it :)

Jon

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 09:17 -0400, Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
>  Hi All- I know that the beta release for Fedora 9 is upcoming --
> still 
>  on 3/20, right?  We announced the F9 Alpha release on press.redhat.com 
>
> (http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/02/05/help-shape-fedora-9-alpha-release-...),
>
>  so I was thinking we should do the same for the beta release.  I'm happy 
>  to take a stab at a draft working from the beta release notes, but if 
>  anyone else wants to give it a try, that works too.  We'd be posting 
>  under the "Fedora Team" name.  Let me know what you think. 
Kerrin,

I'd be happy to help -- want to post a skeleton or something on the wiki
for me to help with?  We have other cooler ways to collaborate, like
Gobby, but I doubt you want to worry about those tools right now.

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[Kerrin Catallozzi]

Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 09:17 -0400, Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
>    
> > Hi All- I know that the beta release for Fedora 9 is upcoming -- still 
> > on 3/20, right?  We announced the F9 Alpha release on press.redhat.com 
> >
> (http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/02/05/help-shape-fedora-9-alpha-release-...),
>
> > so I was thinking we should do the same for the beta release.  I'm happy 
> > to take a stab at a draft working from the beta release notes, but if 
> > anyone else wants to give it a try, that works too.  We'd be posting 
> > under the "Fedora Team" name.  Let me know what you think.
> >     
>
>  Kerrin,
>
>  I'd be happy to help -- want to post a skeleton or something on the wiki
>  for me to help with?  We have other cooler ways to collaborate, like
>  Gobby, but I doubt you want to worry about those tools right now.
>
>     
Hi Paul & All- Here's a draft of the F9 Beta blog. I tried to include 
some of the enhancement highlights, but let me know your feedback on 
what additional information should be included.

---
Curious About Fedora 9?
by: Fedora Team

If you’re curious about what might be included in the next version of 
Fedora -- Fedora 9 Sulpher, due out in late April 2008 -- today’s Beta 
release gives a good glimpse into what’s ahead. The Beta release signals 
the feature freeze for the next release, meaning that all major features 
that we plan to include have to either be complete or in a testable 
state. It’s aimed at our developers and early adopters, but everyone in 
the community is given the opportunity to give feedback to improve our 
latest and greatest cycles. Testing of the Fedora 9 Beta release is 
really simple because with live media images, you don’t need to install 
anything.

Some highlights included in the Beta release:
o GNOME application enhancements including the ability share files via 
bluetooth, DVD and DVB support and a new default CD player.
o Firefox 3 Beta 3 Browser
o Improvements for managing network devices
o A software flash browser plugin
o Consolidated dictionary support
o Anaconda installer improvements
o Live image improvements
o FreeIPA, to help make managing auditing, identity and policy easier
o Virtualization
For more information on enhancements, see the Beta release notes. 
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Beta/ReleaseNotes)

Where does it go from here? Next, we take all of the feedback reported 
from the Beta and make enhancements and tweaks in time for the upcoming 
development and translation freezes and the planned April 22 Release 
Candidate 1. The final Fedora 9 release is scheduled for April 29.
---

thanks,
Kerri

[Jonathan Roberts]

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Hey Kerrin :) 

Just a couple of comments:

>  Curious About Fedora 9?
>  by: Fedora Team
>  
>  If you’re curious about what might be included in the next version of
>  Fedora -- Fedora 9 Sulpher, due out in late April 2008 -- today’s Beta
>  release gives a good glimpse into what’s ahead. The Beta release 
signals
>  the feature freeze for the next release, meaning that all major
> features
>  that we plan to include have to either be complete or in a testable
>  state. It’s aimed at our developers and early adopters, but everyone in
>  the community is given the opportunity to give feedback to improve our
>  latest and greatest cycles. Testing of the Fedora 9 Beta release is
>  really simple because with live media images, you don’t need to install
>  anything.
>  
>  Some highlights included in the Beta release:
>  o GNOME application enhancements including the ability share files via
>  bluetooth, DVD and DVB support and a new default CD player.
>  o Firefox 3 Beta 3 Browser 
I think it's beta 4 now ? I've updated the Release Notes to say this but
actually I'm not certain!

>  o Improvements for managing network devices
>  o A software flash browser plugin 
Should probably try and highlight that it's a *free software* flash plugin,
that's enabled by *default*

>  o Consolidated dictionary support
>  o Anaconda installer improvements 
encrypted partitions might be worth mentioning here explicitly

>  o Live image improvements
>  o FreeIPA, to help make managing auditing, identity and policy easier
>  o Virtualization
>  For more information on enhancements, see the Beta release notes.
>  (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Beta/ReleaseNotes)
>  
>  Where does it go from here? Next, we take all of the feedback reported
>  from the Beta and make enhancements and tweaks in time for the upcoming
>  development and translation freezes and the planned April 22 Release
>  Candidate 1. The final Fedora 9 release is scheduled for April 29. 
Thanks!

Jon

[Kerrin Catallozzi]

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>
>  Hey Kerrin :) 
>
>  Just a couple of comments:
>
>    
> > Curious About Fedora 9?
> > by: Fedora Team
> >
> > If you’re curious about what might be included in the next version of
> > Fedora -- Fedora 9 Sulpher, due out in late April 2008 -- today’s Beta
> > release gives a good glimpse into what’s ahead. The Beta release
> >     
>  signals
>    
> > the feature freeze for the next release, meaning that all major features
> > that we plan to include have to either be complete or in a testable
> > state. It’s aimed at our developers and early adopters, but everyone in
> > the community is given the opportunity to give feedback to improve our
> > latest and greatest cycles. Testing of the Fedora 9 Beta release is
> > really simple because with live media images, you don’t need to install
> > anything.
> >
> > Some highlights included in the Beta release:
> > o GNOME application enhancements including the ability share files via
> > bluetooth, DVD and DVB support and a new default CD player.
> > o Firefox 3 Beta 3 Browser
> >     
>
>  I think it's beta 4 now ? I've updated the Release Notes to say this but
>  actually I'm not certain!
>
>    
> > o Improvements for managing network devices
> > o A software flash browser plugin
> >     
>
>  Should probably try and highlight that it's a *free software* flash plugin,
>  that's enabled by *default*
>
>    
> > o Consolidated dictionary support
> > o Anaconda installer improvements
> >     
>
>  encrypted partitions might be worth mentioning here explicitly
>
>    
> > o Live image improvements
> > o FreeIPA, to help make managing auditing, identity and policy easier
> > o Virtualization
> > For more information on enhancements, see the Beta release notes.
> > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Beta/ReleaseNotes)
> >
> > Where does it go from here? Next, we take all of the feedback reported
> > from the Beta and make enhancements and tweaks in time for the upcoming
> > development and translation freezes and the planned April 22 Release
> > Candidate 1. The final Fedora 9 release is scheduled for April 29.
> >     
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Jon
>     
Jon- Thanks for the input. Does anyone else have any edits? Would be 
great if we could finalize the content by tomorrow (Wed.) so we have it 
ready for posting on Thurs. morning ET.

thanks,
Kerri

[Kerrin Catallozzi]

Hi All- The blog is now published: 
http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/03/20/curious-about-fedora-9/.

thanks,
Kerri

[Jonathan Roberts]

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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:27:55 -0400, Kerrin Catallozzi <kcatallo(a)redhat.com&gt;
wrote:
>  Hi All- The blog is now published:
>  http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/03/20/curious-about-fedora-9/.
>  
>  thanks, 
Ah, thank you! You're becoming one of my favourite people at the various
releases :)

Jon

[Nicu Buculei]

Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
>  Hi All- The blog is now published: 
>  http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/03/20/curious-about-fedora-9/. 
Isn't it a bit (a couple of hours) early?

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[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 15:42 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>  Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
>  > Hi All- The blog is now published: 
>  > http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/03/20/curious-about-fedora-9/.
>  
>  Isn't it a bit (a couple of hours) early? 
Actually, now it's a few *days* early -- our release engineering has
decided to slip the Beta until Tuesday, 25 March, to get some additional
problems fixed.  I'm trying to reach Kerrin so we can retract the
release until then.

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[Kerrin Catallozzi]

Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 15:42 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>    
> > Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
> >     
> >> Hi All- The blog is now published: 
> >> http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/03/20/curious-about-fedora-9/.
> >>       
> > Isn't it a bit (a couple of hours) early?
> >     
>
>  Actually, now it's a few *days* early -- our release engineering has
>  decided to slip the Beta until Tuesday, 25 March, to get some additional
>  problems fixed.  I'm trying to reach Kerrin so we can retract the
>  release until then.
>
>     
Hi Paul- Got your note and the blog is now down.  Please let us know as 
soon as we know there's a slip in date so we can change our annmts.

thanks,
Kerri

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 10:24 -0400, Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
>  Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  > On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 15:42 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>  >   
>  >> Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
>  >>     
>  >>> Hi All- The blog is now published: 
>  >>> http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/03/20/curious-about-fedora-9/.
>  >>>       
>  >> Isn't it a bit (a couple of hours) early?
>  >>     
>  >
>  > Actually, now it's a few *days* early -- our release engineering has
>  > decided to slip the Beta until Tuesday, 25 March, to get some additional
>  > problems fixed.  I'm trying to reach Kerrin so we can retract the
>  > release until then.
>  >
>  >   
>  Hi Paul- Got your note and the blog is now down.  Please let us know as 
>  soon as we know there's a slip in date so we can change our annmts. 
Will do Kerri.  Although this was a late-breaking development, we don't
want to scare you guys off getting involved so early and
effectively! ;-)

Sorry about the mixup, and I'll make sure that you have *plenty* of
notice for any other schedule changes.

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[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 10:50 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 10:24 -0400, Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
>  > Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  > > On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 15:42 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>  > >   
>  > >> Kerrin Catallozzi wrote:
>  > >>     
>  > >>> Hi All- The blog is now published: 
>  > >>> http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/03/20/curious-about-fedora-9/.
>  > >>>       
>  > >> Isn't it a bit (a couple of hours) early?
>  > >>     
>  > >
>  > > Actually, now it's a few *days* early -- our release engineering has
>  > > decided to slip the Beta until Tuesday, 25 March, to get some additional
>  > > problems fixed.  I'm trying to reach Kerrin so we can retract the
>  > > release until then.
>  > >
>  > >   
>  > Hi Paul- Got your note and the blog is now down.  Please let us know as 
>  > soon as we know there's a slip in date so we can change our annmts.
>  
>  Will do Kerri.  Although this was a late-breaking development, we don't
>  want to scare you guys off getting involved so early and
>  effectively! ;-)
>  
>  Sorry about the mixup, and I'll make sure that you have *plenty* of
>  notice for any other schedule changes. 
Since I make a habit of replying to myself on threads -- 

We had an introductory "release day planning" conference yesterday, and
amidst other topics, a mini-slip until Tuesday was discussed.  I
honestly don't recall whether there was a decision to do it at that
point, but there may well have been.  In any case, if there's a blame to
be found here, I'm sure it's on me, since I didn't think to raise the
alert flag for this group at that time.  I'll be more vigilant about
this going forward -- apologies to everyone.

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[Paul W. Frields]

Kerri --

I thought I had sent this out but see that during one of my Evolution
crashes, the draft got filed where I didn't see it.  There are a couple
minor changes below:


On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 15:44 -0400, Kerrin Catallozzi wrote: 
>  Jonathan Roberts wrote:
>  >> Curious About Fedora 9?
>  >> by: Fedora Team
>  >>
>  >> If you’re curious about what might be included in the next version of
>  >> Fedora -- Fedora 9 Sulpher, due out in late April 2008 -- today’s Beta
>  >> release gives a good glimpse into what’s ahead. The Beta release
>  >>     
>  > signals
>  >   
>  >> the feature freeze for the next release, meaning that all major features
>  >> that we plan to include have to either be complete or in a testable
>  >> state. It’s aimed at our developers and early adopters, but everyone in
>  >> the community is given the opportunity to give feedback to improve our
>  >> latest and greatest cycles. Testing of the Fedora 9 Beta release is
>  >> really simple because with live media images, you don’t need to install
>  >> anything.
>  >>
>  >> Some highlights included in the Beta release:
>  >> o GNOME application enhancements including the ability share files via
>  >> bluetooth, DVD and DVB support and a new default CD player. 
Since we can't ship the stuff that makes DVD and DVB work, how about
this:

"o  GNOME application enhancements, including a new global clock, better
file sharing via bluetooth, improved support for using file systems over
a network, Totem improvements, and a new default CD player"

Also:

"o  KDE 4, which includes a brand new desktop and panel with many new
concepts, integrated desktop search, and a brand new visual style called
Oxygen -- all integrated by Fedora's KDE special interest group"


>  >> o Firefox 3 Beta 3 Browser
>  >>     
>  >
>  > I think it's beta 4 now ? I've updated the Release Notes to say this but
>  > actually I'm not certain! 
It's now Firefox 3 Beta 5. 
   
>  >> o Improvements for managing network devices
>  >> o A software flash browser plugin
>  >>     
>  >
>  > Should probably try and highlight that it's a *free software* flash plugin,
>  > that's enabled by *default*
>  >
>  >   
>  >> o Consolidated dictionary support 
"o  Consolidated dictionary support for consistent results and lower
memory usage"

>  >> o Anaconda installer improvements
>  >>     
>  >
>  > encrypted partitions might be worth mentioning here explicitly 
Also:
o  easy resizing support for ext2, ext3, and NTFS partitions in the
installer.

>  >> o Live image improvements
>  >> o FreeIPA, to help make managing auditing, identity and policy easier
>  >> o Virtualization
>  >> For more information on enhancements, see the Beta release notes.
>  >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Beta/ReleaseNotes)
>  >>
>  >> Where does it go from here? Next, we take all of the feedback reported
>  >> from the Beta and make enhancements and tweaks in time for the upcoming
>  >> development and translation freezes and the planned April 22 Release
>  >> Candidate 1. The final Fedora 9 release is scheduled for April 29.
>  >>     
>  >
>  > Thanks!
>  >
>  > Jon
>  >   
>  Jon- Thanks for the input. Does anyone else have any edits? Would be 
>  great if we could finalize the content by tomorrow (Wed.) so we have it 
>  ready for posting on Thurs. morning ET. 

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