fedoraproject wiki has problem with Japanese browser

[Yoshihiro Totaka]

Hi,

This mail is just to inform you that fedora project wiki has a problem 
showing front page of the wiki with Japanese localised browsers.

Localized browser shows the below page,
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/%e3%83%95%e3%83%ad%e3%83%b3%e3%83%88%e3%83%...
instead of correct
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrontPage

I submitted on bugzilla. (This is the first time I am submitting a bug, 
so please forgive me of awful title...)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=170892

If possible, could you please fix this bug before abolishing 
fedora.redhat.com, otherwise many Japanese will think Fedora web page is 
hacked or dead. Localized browsers are in IE in Windows and Firefox in 
Fedora with Japanese language as a default.

Thank you in advance!

Regards,
Yoshihiro Totaka

[Patrick W. Barnes]

Yoshihiro Totaka wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  This mail is just to inform you that fedora project wiki has a problem 
>  showing front page of the wiki with Japanese localised browsers.
>
>  Localized browser shows the below page,
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/%e3%83%95%e3%83%ad%e3%83%b3%e3%83%88%e3%83%...
>
>
>  instead of correct
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrontPage
>
>  I submitted on bugzilla. (This is the first time I am submitting a 
>  bug, so please forgive me of awful title...)
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=170892
>
>  If possible, could you please fix this bug before abolishing 
>  fedora.redhat.com, otherwise many Japanese will think Fedora web page 
>  is hacked or dead. Localized browsers are in IE in Windows and Firefox 
>  in Fedora with Japanese language as a default.
>
>  Thank you in advance!
>
>  Regards,
>  Yoshihiro Totaka 
This is a known problem for browsers set to many languages. 
MoinMoin, 
the wiki software that powers fedoraproject.org's wiki, attempts to 
translate 'FrontPage' for browsers set to languages other than English.  
It isn't a bug, just part of the configuration of MoinMoin.  Work is 
already underway to remedy this.

-- 
Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
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[Jef Spaleta]

On 10/15/05, Patrick Barnes <nman64(a)n-man.com&gt; wrote:
>  This is a known problem for browsers set to many languages. 
> MoinMoin,
>  the wiki software that powers fedoraproject.org's wiki, attempts to
>  translate 'FrontPage' for browsers set to languages other than English.
>  It isn't a bug, just part of the configuration of MoinMoin.  Work is
>  already underway to remedy this. 
Deeper question...
Problems with the wiki, both in terms of content and how it
operates... should be reported where?

-jef

[Karsten Wade]

On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 14:52 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
>  On 10/15/05, Patrick Barnes <nman64(a)n-man.com&gt; wrote:
>  > This is a known problem for browsers set to many languages.  MoinMoin,
>  > the wiki software that powers fedoraproject.org's wiki, attempts to
>  > translate 'FrontPage' for browsers set to languages other than English.
>  > It isn't a bug, just part of the configuration of MoinMoin.  Work is
>  > already underway to remedy this.
>  
>  Deeper question...
>  Problems with the wiki, both in terms of content and how it
>  operates... should be reported where? 
There is now[1] a component in bugzilla:

Fedora Documentation > fedora-websites

All bugs for all formal Fedora websites should use this component.

For now, I volunteered Patrick as the initial assigned person ;-D, and
put myself in as QA.  Does this make sense?  Patrick, objections?  

Does anyone want to be on the initial Cc: list for this component?  Or
is there a mailing list or another mechanism that should receive this
bug stream?

- Karsten

[1] (or will be when some cron script runs?)

-- 
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[Jef Spaleta]

On 10/18/05, Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Fedora Documentation > fedora-websites
>
>  All bugs for all formal Fedora websites should use this component. 
Can there be a clear... enumerated listing...as to what counts as a
"formal" site in the definition of that bugzilla component?

I guess the fedoraproject.org mainpage and wiki header/footer should
have a link back to this "formalized" bugzilla component.


-jef"if only we had a servicable trademark that could be used
exclusively on formal sites to help distinguish which sites are
tracked in the central bugzilla...."spaleta

-jef

[Karsten Wade]

On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 09:18 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
>  On 10/18/05, Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > Fedora Documentation > fedora-websites
>  >
>  > All bugs for all formal Fedora websites should use this component.
>  
>  Can there be a clear... enumerated listing...as to what counts as a
>  "formal" site in the definition of that bugzilla component? 
Argh!  You caught me ... curses!  Foiled again.

I was trying to avoid the loaded term "official", so I have started
calling things "formal".  

Consensus decisions that become "the-way-it's-done" == "formal".

For us, it really can only mean sites we control the domain, hosting,
etc. of.  I'll see if there is a way to get that into the bugzilla
description, but I 

The bugzilla description now[1] reads:

"Problems and requests for all formal Fedora Project websites.  This
list is currently: fedoraproject.org and fedora.redhat.com."

[1] Now is relative to when some magic-fu happens.

>  I guess the fedoraproject.org mainpage and wiki header/footer should
>  have a link back to this "formalized" bugzilla component. 
Yeah, that would be cool.

>  -jef"if only we had a servicable trademark that could be used
>  exclusively on formal sites to help distinguish which sites are
>  tracked in the central bugzilla...."spaleta 
Yeah, and a link to a pre-filled bugzilla request.

- Karsten

>  -jef
>  
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[Patrick W. Barnes]

Karsten Wade wrote:
>  On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 14:52 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
>    
> > On 10/15/05, Patrick Barnes <nman64(a)n-man.com&gt; wrote:
> >     
> >> This is a known problem for browsers set to many languages.  MoinMoin,
> >> the wiki software that powers fedoraproject.org's wiki, attempts to
> >> translate 'FrontPage' for browsers set to languages other than English.
> >> It isn't a bug, just part of the configuration of MoinMoin.  Work is
> >> already underway to remedy this.
> >>       
> > Deeper question...
> > Problems with the wiki, both in terms of content and how it
> > operates... should be reported where?
> >     
>
>  There is now[1] a component in bugzilla:
>
>  Fedora Documentation > fedora-websites
>
>  All bugs for all formal Fedora websites should use this component.
>
>  For now, I volunteered Patrick as the initial assigned person ;-D, and
>  put myself in as QA.  Does this make sense?  Patrick, objections?  
>     
No objections.
>  Does anyone want to be on the initial Cc: list for this component? 
> Or
>  is there a mailing list or another mechanism that should receive this
>  bug stream?
>     
No mechanisms that I can think of.  Do we need one?
>  - Karsten
>
>  [1] (or will be when some cron script runs?)
>     
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Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
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[Yoshihiro Totaka]

Dear Patrick,

Thanks for working on this issue. It would be great if this problem is 
fixed before shutting down of fedora.redhat.com.

Thank you and Best Regard,
Yoshihiro Totaka


Patrick Barnes wrote:
>  Yoshihiro Totaka wrote:
>  
> > Hi,
> >
> > This mail is just to inform you that fedora project wiki has a problem 
> > showing front page of the wiki with Japanese localised browsers.
> >
> > Localized browser shows the below page,
> >
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/%e3%83%95%e3%83%ad%e3%83%b3%e3%83%88%e3%83%...
>
> >
> > instead of correct
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrontPage
> >
> > I submitted on bugzilla. (This is the first time I am submitting a 
> > bug, so please forgive me of awful title...)
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=170892
> >
> > If possible, could you please fix this bug before abolishing 
> > fedora.redhat.com, otherwise many Japanese will think Fedora web page 
> > is hacked or dead. Localized browsers are in IE in Windows and Firefox 
> > in Fedora with Japanese language as a default.
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yoshihiro Totaka
>  
>  This is a known problem for browsers set to many languages.  MoinMoin, 
>  the wiki software that powers fedoraproject.org's wiki, attempts to 
>  translate 'FrontPage' for browsers set to languages other than English.  
>  It isn't a bug, just part of the configuration of MoinMoin.  Work is 
>  already underway to remedy this.
>