2:21 a.m.
Hey, does anybody know if we have a tagline for Fedora 10? For example,
with Fedora 9, we had "Fedora 9. Make waves." This is for the front
page of the website (so that we can get all strings ready to be
translated).
Thanks,
Ricky
2:34 a.m.
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 03:21 -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
Hey, does anybody know if we have a tagline for Fedora 10? For
example,
with Fedora 9, we had "Fedora 9. Make waves." This is for the front
page of the website (so that we can get all strings ready to be
translated).
"Out of this world"?
It could probably be translated as "Unique among the stars".
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6:08 a.m.
I read somewhere "Shines like a star"
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org
wrote:
Ricky Zhou wrote:
> Hey, does anybody know if we have a tagline for Fedora 10? For example,
> with Fedora 9, we had "Fedora 9. Make waves." This is for the front
> page of the website (so that we can get all strings ready to be
> translated).
> Thanks,
> Ricky
>
"One Step Ahead"
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7:06 a.m.
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 03:21 -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
Hey, does anybody know if we have a tagline for Fedora 10? For
example,
with Fedora 9, we had "Fedora 9. Make waves." This is for the front
page of the website (so that we can get all strings ready to be
translated).
We've tried to make these little slogans into verb phrases, i.e.
persuade people to try Fedora out, do something cool with it. The theme
is not to glorify the Fedora distribution itself, but to assure people
they can accomplish their goals using Fedora, and give them the power to
do it. So I thought of:
"Fedora 10 - Fire it up." (The metaphor is fire, power, energy.)
Other slogans I tried out that didn't make my personal, mental cut for
one reason or another:
* "Shine brightly" (too affected, with the adverb)
* "Power up" (not very translatable, or comprehensible to many people)
* "Free. Radical." (not a verb phrase, maybe too politicized a term, and
the wordplay probably doesn't translate)
* "Be a star." (Oh, gag me.)
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Shine your way
2008/11/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 03:21 -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
> Hey, does anybody know if we have a tagline for Fedora 10? For example,
> with Fedora 9, we had "Fedora 9. Make waves." This is for the front
> page of the website (so that we can get all strings ready to be
> translated).
We've tried to make these little slogans into verb phrases, i.e.
persuade people to try Fedora out, do something cool with it. The theme
is not to glorify the Fedora distribution itself, but to assure people
they can accomplish their goals using Fedora, and give them the power to
do it. So I thought of:
"Fedora 10 - Fire it up." (The metaphor is fire, power, energy.)
Other slogans I tried out that didn't make my personal, mental cut for
one reason or another:
* "Shine brightly" (too affected, with the adverb)
* "Power up" (not very translatable, or comprehensible to many people)
* "Free. Radical." (not a verb phrase, maybe too politicized a term, and
the wordplay probably doesn't translate)
* "Be a star." (Oh, gag me.)
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10 a.m.
Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 03:21 -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
> Hey, does anybody know if we have a tagline for Fedora 10? For example,
> with Fedora 9, we had "Fedora 9. Make waves." This is for the front
> page of the website (so that we can get all strings ready to be
> translated).
We've tried to make these little slogans into verb phrases, i.e.
persuade people to try Fedora out, do something cool with it. The theme
is not to glorify the Fedora distribution itself, but to assure people
they can accomplish their goals using Fedora, and give them the power to
do it. So I thought of:
"Fedora 10 - Fire it up." (The metaphor is fire, power, energy.)
I like this one the best :)
~m
12:19 p.m.
fire it up
+1
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>wrote:
Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 03:21 -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
>
>> Hey, does anybody know if we have a tagline for Fedora 10? For example,
>> with Fedora 9, we had "Fedora 9. Make waves." This is for the front
>> page of the website (so that we can get all strings ready to be
>> translated).
>>
>
> We've tried to make these little slogans into verb phrases, i.e.
> persuade people to try Fedora out, do something cool with it. The theme
> is not to glorify the Fedora distribution itself, but to assure people
> they can accomplish their goals using Fedora, and give them the power to
> do it. So I thought of:
>
> "Fedora 10 - Fire it up." (The metaphor is fire, power, energy.)
>
I like this one the best :)
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2:35 p.m.
On 2008-11-10 08:06:47 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
"Fedora 10 - Fire it up." (The metaphor is fire, power,
energy.)
Wow, thanks for the fast brainstorming - that sounds great:
http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/
Thanks,
Ricky
7:24 a.m.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 03:35:28PM -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
On 2008-11-10 08:06:47 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> "Fedora 10 - Fire it up." (The metaphor is fire, power, energy.)
Wow, thanks for the fast brainstorming - that sounds great:
http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/
Hi Ricky,
As we did last time, could you make this more declarative? Try this
text:
"Fedora 10. Fire it up."
The full-stops make it more powerful, like the last time, I think.
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
"Fedora 10. Fire it up."
seems too simple.
Other Possibilities:
"Fedora 10. Feel the Stability at Rocket-Speed"
"The Science of Fedora 10."
"Get the Fedora 10 Habit."
"Yo Quiero Fedora 10"
"It's a New Fedora 10 Every Day "
Best
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11:18 a.m.
Mani A wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Paul W. Frields
<stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> "Fedora 10. Fire it up."
>
seems too simple.
Other Possibilities:
"Fedora 10. Feel the Stability at Rocket-Speed"
"The Science of Fedora 10."
"Get the Fedora 10 Habit."
"Yo Quiero Fedora 10"
"It's a New Fedora 10 Every Day "
Best
A. Mani
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11:25 a.m.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 03:35:28PM -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
> On 2008-11-10 08:06:47 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > "Fedora 10 - Fire it up." (The metaphor is fire, power, energy.)
> Wow, thanks for the fast brainstorming - that sounds great:
> http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/
Hi Ricky,
As we did last time, could you make this more declarative? Try this
text:
"Fedora 10. Fire it up."
The full-stops make it more powerful, like the last time, I think.
The counter message that came to my brain was
Fedora 10. Nothing serene about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Sun
Now if we could only get Summer Glau to do an introduction video for it..
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11:51 a.m.
I have to agree.. "Fedora 10. Fire it up." does sound more
"powerfull"
Quoting Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com>:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Paul W. Frields
<stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 03:35:28PM -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
>> On 2008-11-10 08:06:47 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> > "Fedora 10 - Fire it up." (The metaphor is fire, power, energy.)
>> Wow, thanks for the fast brainstorming - that sounds great:
>> http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/
>
> Hi Ricky,
>
> As we did last time, could you make this more declarative? Try this
> text:
>
> "Fedora 10. Fire it up."
>
> The full-stops make it more powerful, like the last time, I think.
The counter message that came to my brain was
Fedora 10. Nothing serene about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Sun
Now if we could only get Summer Glau to do an introduction video for it..
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1:40 p.m.
On 2008-11-14 08:24:05 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
As we did last time, could you make this more declarative? Try this
text:
"Fedora 10. Fire it up."
The full-stops make it more powerful, like the last time, I think.
We actually
discussed this last websites meeting and decided to leave
the period off. Unfortunately, we're string frozen for translation at
this point. We can discuss this more and I can try to manually modify
some PO files, but no guarantees at this point :-/
Thanks,
Ricky
3:28 p.m.
2008/11/14 Ricky Zhou <ricky(a)fedoraproject.org>:
On 2008-11-14 08:24:05 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> As we did last time, could you make this more declarative? Try this
> text:
>
> "Fedora 10. Fire it up."
>
> The full-stops make it more powerful, like the last time, I think.
We actually discussed this last websites meeting and decided to leave
the period off. Unfortunately, we're string frozen for translation at
this point.
I'm already worried by how that will translate in italian...
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3:52 p.m.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Gianluca Sforna <giallu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm already worried by how that will translate in italian...
I happen to like "Fedora 10. Fire it up." Or something short and crisp like
it.
But Gianluca brings up a good point. Special care would have to be taken to
translate "fire it up" correctly -- in this case meaning to start up (which
is how I read it), rather than to set on fire. So defining "fire it up" for
the benefit of those translating it into other languages -- as not to
translate the phrase to come out "Fedora 10: Set it on fire" in another
language -- might be a good idea.
Don't laugh: The advertising industry is full of ad campaigns that failed
miserably because of inadequate translations from English into the
language(s) where the campaign was targeted.
Of course, here in Santa Cruz, California, "fire it up" has a meaning that
eclipses merely "starting up" -- namely, "firing it up" here refers
to
lighting a marijuana cigarette or a bowl of marijuana in a pipe. While I am
not advocating marijuana use and certainly I do not partake of it myself, I
can live with the snickers in the neighborhood -- okay, the snickers around
California -- around the reference.
With Solar (which is very cool) and the fire theme so far -- and I'm not a
Doors fan by any stretch of the imagination -- but would something like
"Fedora 10: Light your fire" work? I'd be willing to bet "Light My
Fire" has
been translated into all human languages by now and we'd miss the "fire it
up" translation hurdle.
Not a proposal here, just a thought.
Larry Cafiero
4:45 p.m.
Hi,
What about: Fedora 10, Rock on.
Sounds cool, doesn't it?
Regards,
Ilyes Gouta.
Gianluca Sforna wrote:
2008/11/14 Ricky Zhou <ricky(a)fedoraproject.org>:
> On 2008-11-14 08:24:05 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> As we did last time, could you make this more declarative? Try this
>> text:
>>
>> "Fedora 10. Fire it up."
>>
>> The full-stops make it more powerful, like the last time, I think.
> We actually discussed this last websites meeting and decided to leave
> the period off. Unfortunately, we're string frozen for translation at
> this point.
I'm already worried by how that will translate in italian...
4:52 p.m.
Ilyes Gouta wrote:
Hi,
What about: Fedora 10, Rock on.
Sounds cool, doesn't it?
Just a note. The time for suggestions is over. The tag line was already
picked and has been translated. What you can do is suggest this for
Fedora 11 or another release when the discussion comes up.
Rahul
7:02 p.m.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org>wrote:
Just a note. The time for suggestions is over. The tag line was already
picked and has been translated. What you can do is suggest this for Fedora
11 or another release when the discussion comes up.
Hey, Rahul --
Not making suggestions, just pointing out some hurdles that I hope marketing
is ready to successfully overcome.
Meanwhile, it looks like we've got the stoner Linux user market nailed on
the Central California Coast. :-)
Fire it up.
Larry Cafiero
9:58 p.m.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 05:02:41PM -0800, Larry Cafiero wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org>wrote:
>
> Just a note. The time for suggestions is over. The tag line was already
> picked and has been translated. What you can do is suggest this for Fedora
> 11 or another release when the discussion comes up.
Hey, Rahul --
Not making suggestions, just pointing out some hurdles that I hope marketing
is ready to successfully overcome.
Meanwhile, it looks like we've got the stoner Linux user market nailed on
the Central California Coast. :-)
Fire it up.
Heh, this was not on my mind when I thought of the wording, but
whatever floats people's boats....
Your point about translation is excellent. For non-English speakers,
the meaning of "Fire it up" as intended is similar to "start the
engines," and in this case the engine is a nuclear furnace of software
freedom! :-) So something that captures that aspect is probably the
right way to go for translation.
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We here in Brazil are trying to translate the tag "fire it up" because
this phrase has another meaning for our language and not sound very
nice. There is a thread for discussion on the Brazilian list to find a
better translation.
We are thinking of a particular word in Brazil that has a relationship
with the term in English.
Regards.
Jayme Ayres
2008/11/14 Gianluca Sforna <giallu(a)gmail.com>
2008/11/14 Ricky Zhou <ricky(a)fedoraproject.org>:
> On 2008-11-14 08:24:05 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> As we did last time, could you make this more declarative? Try this
>> text:
>>
>> "Fedora 10. Fire it up."
>>
>> The full-stops make it more powerful, like the last time, I think.
> We actually discussed this last websites meeting and decided to leave
> the period off. Unfortunately, we're string frozen for translation at
> this point.
I'm already worried by how that will translate in italian...
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