On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:15:00 +0000
"Justin W. Flory" <jflory7(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 01/10/2017 08:23 AM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 02:09 PM, Zamir SUN wrote:
>> Great idea.
>>
>> While I still want to know if we still need to fill information in
>> many separate wiki pages, like[1] for all events and [2] for
>> release parties? Trying to remember update all these different
>> wiki pages seems not make too much sense if we will fill the
>> information into the calendar.
>>
>> [1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events
>> [2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F25_release_events
>
> There may be good reasons to keep these pages. I'd like to hear
> what people think.
>
> Using a calendar has the benefit that the data is exportable in ics
> and easily consumable for other uses. As an example, the start
> page could list upcoming events.
>
> With some tagging, which I don't think fedocal has but could
> theoretically be extended to have (or with a constrained
> vocabularly) we could even "slice and dice" the events.
>
> I hope this would also be useful to commops and magazine in making
> sure that events get posts and in helping post writers get priority
> for reviews on those posts.
>
> regards,
>
> bex
>
>>
>> On 01/10/2017 08:57 PM, Abdel G. Martínez L. wrote:
>>> I do agree with your idea. The problem is we Ambassadors only
>>> care about participating on events and not generating the proper
>>> statistics of those (you know, learned lessons).
>>>
>>> Having the creation of the calendar event as a requirement for the
>>> approval would not harm the Ambassador but fortify our output to
>>> the project.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> 2017-01-10 5:58 GMT-05:00 Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com
>>> <mailto:bex@pobox.com>>:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I noticed that we have an events calendar in fedocal[0]. It
>>> appears to contain one event and that event is misfiled[1].
>>>
>>> Where do regions post all of the events Fedora will be
>>> participating in?
>>>
>>> I get asked, A LOT, whether Fedora will be at event X or Y.
>>> It would be great to have a place where we could easily see all
>>> of the events we are participating in. In an idea world, I see
>>> something like this:
>>>
>>> <2 ltr country code> - Event Name - City
>>> Date(s)
>>> Description:
>>> Fedora Speaker or Booth or whatever
>>> For details see this wiki page and/or contact this person
>>>
>>> We could use this data to improve our marketing and to
>>> improve our coordination across the project.
>>>
>>> I believe it would be reasonable to ask that event owners be
>>> required to create this calendar event as part of getting their
>>> event approved by Ambassadors. What do you think?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> bex
>>>
>>> 0:
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/Events/
>>> <
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/Events/>
>>> 1: I've emailed the event owner and asked them to move it. I
>>> am worried they are not active anymore.
>>>
Okay, this is a long thread, so I'll try not to deviate much:
Firstly, this is definitely a regional question. While all of the
regions follow roughly similar practices, the details about how we
track and manage events differs. Some people thoroughly use the wiki
for the event and place it on the Events page, I've also seen
third-party sites used as the primary event page, and a few other
things. Whatever we end up doing, making sure that we are consistent
across all regions should be a priority so that anyone who needs to
see Fedora events can see *all* of them in one place.
Secondly, I personally love the idea of using Fedocal for events,
either as a primary or supplementary method of documenting events. I
see two benefits to using Fedocal:
(1) Anyone who wants to see "where Fedora is" can do so easily and
quickly in the convenience of flipping through months in a
calendar
(2) Other newsy sites have calendars of their own for open source or
Linux events – having one of our own makes it easy for other,
non- Fedora sites to publicize events we participate in on their own
calendar (see the
Opensource.com example below)
https://opensource.com/resources/conferences-and-events-monthly
We could reach out to some sites like these to communicate the
availability of our own calendar to check out and see what all is
happening with Fedora around the world.
This only can be achieved if we have all the events in one location to
be easily to share. First we make a process to put every event in
fedocal (or something else) and second, we share this with FLOSS
communities schedules to let them know what we are planning. Maybe we
can benefit from improving communication, so to know what other
communities are planning and participate too.
Thirdly and lastly, the idea of requiring an event report to receive
reimbursement from an event is an idea I support. This is currently
the policy we follow in North America, and it has worked well. The
general rule is that in order to receive your reimbursement, an event
report must be posted within two weeks of the event.
You can find our reimbursement guidelines here, recently updated and
maintained by Andrew Ward:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelines