Need Help

[Zaid Chauhan]

Hello Sir,
I have done many little things for Fedora Project on my expense,

now i want to done activities of CD Distribution , Pamphleteers, Weekly
News latter for Sabarkantha Division of Gujarat

So... i need some funds

Please grant me some Funds

[Zaid Chauhan - Fedora Ambassador]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Zaid Chauhan 
Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Subject: Need Help
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Hello Sir,
I have done many little things for Fedora Project on my expense,

now i want to done activities of CD Distribution , Distribute Pamphleteers,
Weekly  News latter, Do Workshops for Sabarkantha Division of Gujarat

So... i need some funds

Please grant me some Funds

[Heherson Pagcaliwagan]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Zaid Chauhan - Fedora
Ambassador wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Zaid Chauhan 
> Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:48 PM
> Subject: Need Help
> To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>
> Hello Sir,
> I have done many little things for Fedora Project on my expense,
>
> now i want to done activities of CD Distribution , Distribute Pamphleteers,
> Weekly  News latter, Do Workshops for Sabarkantha Division of Gujarat

For those efforts, we are forever grateful and we hope you continue them.
> So... i need some funds
>
> Please grant me some Funds

I believe, you should read the Reimbursements Guidelines[1] if you
haven't yet. Seems like you're from India, Sankarshan is your guy.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements

[Zaid Chauhan]

I send Two email since 23rd but Sankarshan not reply any of my email

My Activities are on hold due to funds,

In My previous activities I spent my own money but i don't have money to
support larger Events like ,

Workshop in other colleges & Science schools, Workshop on city level,
Produce Monthly Newsletter , Distributing Flyres , Distributing Fedora Dvds

Please Help me Out

Yours Hardworking
Fedora Project Ambassador - ZAID CHAUHAN

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Heherson Pagcaliwagan
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Zaid Chauhan - Fedora
> Ambassador wrote:
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Zaid Chauhan 
> > Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:48 PM
> > Subject: Need Help
> > To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
> >
> > Hello Sir,
> > I have done many little things for Fedora Project on my expense,
> >
> > now i want to done activities of CD Distribution , Distribute
>
> Pamphleteers,
> > Weekly  News latter, Do Workshops for Sabarkantha Division of Gujarat
>
> For those efforts, we are forever grateful and we hope you continue them.
> > So... i need some funds
> >
> > Please grant me some Funds
>
> I believe, you should read the Reimbursements Guidelines[1] if you
> haven't yet. Seems like you're from India, Sankarshan is your guy.
>
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements
>
> --
> Heherson Pagcaliwagan
> http://www.azneita.org
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[susmit shannigrahi]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Zaid Chauhan wrote:
> I send Two email since 23rd but Sankarshan not reply any of my email
> My Activities are on hold due to funds,

He will answer as soon as he is free. I have had a chat with him regarding this.
Please give others some time to respond before sending mails to the list accu.
> In My previous activities I spent my own money but i don't have money to
> support larger Events like ,

Thank you for your activities.  However, it will be nice to have a
brief summary of what you have done, as I don't remember any event
report from you to the list (may be I have overlooked).
> Workshop in other colleges & Science schools, Workshop on city level,
> Produce Monthly Newsletter , Distributing Flyres , Distributing Fedora Dvds

The money can not be allocated prior to the activities.
Once you have organised something after letting the list know and
updating the event page, we can reimburse you.

Please update the details of workshops to the fedora event page.

There will be no money for distributing DVDs as such as freemedia is a
purely voluntary program. if you organise some event, you will be sent
DVDs. No issue.

For distributing flyers, to whom you are trying to distribute without an event?

But first of all,  please let us know your plan details. If you are
planning an event, you are welcome, but you have to update the event
page first before any monetary discussion takes place.

Hope this helps.

Thanks.
> Please Help me Out
>
> Yours Hardworking
> Fedora Project Ambassador - ZAID CHAUHAN
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Heherson Pagcaliwagan 
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Zaid Chauhan - Fedora
> > Ambassador wrote:
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Zaid Chauhan 
> > > Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:48 PM
> > > Subject: Need Help
> > > To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
> > >
> > > Hello Sir,
> > > I have done many little things for Fedora Project on my expense,
> > >
> > > now i want to done activities of CD Distribution , Distribute
> > > Pamphleteers,
> > > Weekly  News latter, Do Workshops for Sabarkantha Division of Gujarat
> >
> > For those efforts, we are forever grateful and we hope you continue them.
> > > So... i need some funds
> > >
> > > Please grant me some Funds
> >
> > I believe, you should read the Reimbursements Guidelines[1] if you
> > haven't yet. Seems like you're from India, Sankarshan is your guy.
> >
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements
> >
> > --
> > Heherson Pagcaliwagan
> > http://www.azneita.org
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM, susmit
shannigrahi wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Zaid Chauhan wrote:
> > I send Two email since 23rd but Sankarshan not reply any of my email
> > My Activities are on hold due to funds,
>
> He will answer as soon as he is free. I have had a chat with him regarding this.
> Please give others some time to respond before sending mails to the list accu.

Susmit, thanks for filling in here. I owe you one.

Zaid, I have your mail in the inbox, yesterday was just too
distracting to compose an appropriate response. Susmit has provided a
complete response, I'd just be adding a few bits.
> > In My previous activities I spent my own money but i don't have money to
> > support larger Events like ,
>
> Thank you for your activities.  However, it will be nice to have a
> brief summary of what you have done, as I don't remember any event
> report from you to the list (may be I have overlooked).

So, here's what I did this morning - I checked up Fedora Ambassadors
and, Fedora India mailing list to try and read up on what activities
you have been involved in and, your reports about the success from
them along with any learning that you'd have shared with your peer
group and the Fedora folks at large. I haven't come across one. It
could be that I haven't searched enough, so, I'd like to know more
about what you have been up to (please do not use this mailing address
to direct replies to me off list, I do not read mails directly
addressed to me on this one).
> > Workshop in other colleges & Science schools, Workshop on city level,
> > Produce Monthly Newsletter , Distributing Flyres , Distributing Fedora Dvds

In addition to what Susmit writes below, the aspect that I find a
trifle odd is that I do not have a request about the line item cost.
For example, anything that says "I need funds" (which by the way, also
extends to the $subject, it could perhaps have been a bit more
explanatory) without a proper plan as to the why-where-when-how_much,
is a bit off.

As an example of why I generally hesitate to immediately allocate
funds to an event, do please read up
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-May/msg00141.html

The Monthly (in the initial mail it was Weekly) Newsletter does
require a bit of coordination with Fedora Marketing as well. Have you
initiated discussions with them ?
> The money can not be allocated prior to the activities.
> Once you have organised something after letting the list know and
> updating the event page, we can reimburse you.
>
> Please update the details of workshops to the fedora event page.

I'd also like to read and learn from you about what you consider your
success bits in the past months and, what your plans are continuing
forward with them.
> There will be no money for distributing DVDs as such as freemedia is a
> purely voluntary program. if you organise some event, you will be sent
> DVDs. No issue.
>
> For distributing flyers, to whom you are trying to distribute without an event?
>
> But first of all,  please let us know your plan details. If you are
> planning an event, you are welcome, but you have to update the event
> page first before any monetary discussion takes place.

~sankarshan

[Zaid Chauhan]

Hello sankarshan,
I am from Sabarkantha ,
Where no body knows about open source, very well ,not event Engineering
students,
Because , all region is using Pirated Xp & other windows version,

First i created local group taking people together who are interested in
Open Source,

We have first done workshop of introduction about fedora & other Open source
systems in "Rock-On Concert " of Government Engineering College, Modasa

Where give lecture to the Students and tells them to join this movement of
Open source but i previously said there is no such Open Source environment ,
I found very few students,

You can check website of that party, www.rockon09.co.cc - I am the
Administrator of that Party

Then i started to distributing fedora OS by downloading from Internet, And i
get good response in it,

I talked to my HOD of Computer/IT department and request him to use Fedora
in Labs of Our Department in Government Engineering College, Modasa,

He agree to use it in one Lab. and i installed the fedora in 42 Computers
for Students to use it,

After that my exam duration is started so i am inactive for 2 months,

Now i want to do events on city level not only to college level,

So i need banners,stickers, and other Advertisement products,

And it will also cost me for rent of Hall for events, Giving snacks to
attendees , Electricity, and other Local expenses ,

It's My mistake that i don't give reports of events, Because i thought it is
local events so not necessary to report or advertise it,

But it's my mistake , so i am sorry,

Now i want to plan Event for my city, How i will get banners & etc. and
money for its expenses

Fedoras
Hardworking Ambassador - Zaid Chauhan

On 6/26/09, sankarshan  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM, susmit
> shannigrahi wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Zaid Chauhan wrote:
> > > I send Two email since 23rd but Sankarshan not reply any of my email
> > > My Activities are on hold due to funds,
> >
> > He will answer as soon as he is free. I have had a chat with him
>
> regarding this.
> > Please give others some time to respond before sending mails to the list
>
> accu.
>
> Susmit, thanks for filling in here. I owe you one.
>
> Zaid, I have your mail in the inbox, yesterday was just too
> distracting to compose an appropriate response. Susmit has provided a
> complete response, I'd just be adding a few bits.
> > > In My previous activities I spent my own money but i don't have money to
> > > support larger Events like ,
> >
> > Thank you for your activities.  However, it will be nice to have a
> > brief summary of what you have done, as I don't remember any event
> > report from you to the list (may be I have overlooked).
>
> So, here's what I did this morning - I checked up Fedora Ambassadors
> and, Fedora India mailing list to try and read up on what activities
> you have been involved in and, your reports about the success from
> them along with any learning that you'd have shared with your peer
> group and the Fedora folks at large. I haven't come across one. It
> could be that I haven't searched enough, so, I'd like to know more
> about what you have been up to (please do not use this mailing address
> to direct replies to me off list, I do not read mails directly
> addressed to me on this one).
> > > Workshop in other colleges & Science schools, Workshop on city level,
> > > Produce Monthly Newsletter , Distributing Flyres , Distributing Fedora
>
> Dvds
>
> In addition to what Susmit writes below, the aspect that I find a
> trifle odd is that I do not have a request about the line item cost.
> For example, anything that says "I need funds" (which by the way, also
> extends to the $subject, it could perhaps have been a bit more
> explanatory) without a proper plan as to the why-where-when-how_much,
> is a bit off.
>
> As an example of why I generally hesitate to immediately allocate
> funds to an event, do please read up
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-May/msg00141.html
>
> The Monthly (in the initial mail it was Weekly) Newsletter does
> require a bit of coordination with Fedora Marketing as well. Have you
> initiated discussions with them ?
> > The money can not be allocated prior to the activities.
> > Once you have organised something after letting the list know and
> > updating the event page, we can reimburse you.
> >
> > Please update the details of workshops to the fedora event page.
>
> I'd also like to read and learn from you about what you consider your
> success bits in the past months and, what your plans are continuing
> forward with them.
> > There will be no money for distributing DVDs as such as freemedia is a
> > purely voluntary program. if you organise some event, you will be sent
> > DVDs. No issue.
> >
> > For distributing flyers, to whom you are trying to distribute without an
>
> event?
> > But first of all,  please let us know your plan details. If you are
> > planning an event, you are welcome, but you have to update the event
> > page first before any monetary discussion takes place.
>
> ~sankarshan
>
> --
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Fwd: Need Help

[Zaid Chauhan - Fedora Ambassador]

In previous Email i mentioned about Rock On Party and it s web site is
www.rockon09.co.cc But this is modified after completing  of party,

The website look of before finishing  is
http://spykers.110mb.com/rockon09.htm

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Zaid Chauhan 
Date: Jun 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Need Help
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Hello sankarshan,
I am from Sabarkantha ,
Where no body knows about open source, very well ,not event Engineering
students,
Because , all region is using Pirated Xp & other windows version,

First i created local group taking people together who are interested in
Open Source,

We have first done workshop of introduction about fedora & other Open source
systems in "Rock-On Concert " of Government Engineering College, Modasa

Where give lecture to the Students and tells them to join this movement of
Open source but i previously said there is no such Open Source environment ,
I found very few students,

You can check website of that party, www.rockon09.co.cc - I am the
Administrator of that Party

Then i started to distributing fedora OS by downloading from Internet, And i
get good response in it,

I talked to my HOD of Computer/IT department and request him to use Fedora
in Labs of Our Department in Government Engineering College, Modasa,

He agree to use it in one Lab. and i installed the fedora in 42 Computers
for Students to use it,

After that my exam duration is started so i am inactive for 2 months,

Now i want to do events on city level not only to college level,

So i need banners,stickers, and other Advertisement products,

And it will also cost me for rent of Hall for events, Giving snacks to
attendees , Electricity, and other Local expenses ,

It's My mistake that i don't give reports of events, Because i thought it is
local events so not necessary to report or advertise it,

But it's my mistake , so i am sorry,

Now i want to plan Event for my city, How i will get banners & etc. and
money for its expenses

Fedoras
Hardworking Ambassador - Zaid Chauhan

On 6/26/09, sankarshan  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM, susmit
> shannigrahi wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Zaid Chauhan wrote:
> > > I send Two email since 23rd but Sankarshan not reply any of my email
> > > My Activities are on hold due to funds,
> >
> > He will answer as soon as he is free. I have had a chat with him
>
> regarding this.
> > Please give others some time to respond before sending mails to the list
>
> accu.
>
> Susmit, thanks for filling in here. I owe you one.
>
> Zaid, I have your mail in the inbox, yesterday was just too
> distracting to compose an appropriate response. Susmit has provided a
> complete response, I'd just be adding a few bits.
> > > In My previous activities I spent my own money but i don't have money to
> > > support larger Events like ,
> >
> > Thank you for your activities.  However, it will be nice to have a
> > brief summary of what you have done, as I don't remember any event
> > report from you to the list (may be I have overlooked).
>
> So, here's what I did this morning - I checked up Fedora Ambassadors
> and, Fedora India mailing list to try and read up on what activities
> you have been involved in and, your reports about the success from
> them along with any learning that you'd have shared with your peer
> group and the Fedora folks at large. I haven't come across one. It
> could be that I haven't searched enough, so, I'd like to know more
> about what you have been up to (please do not use this mailing address
> to direct replies to me off list, I do not read mails directly
> addressed to me on this one).
> > > Workshop in other colleges & Science schools, Workshop on city level,
> > > Produce Monthly Newsletter , Distributing Flyres , Distributing Fedora
>
> Dvds
>
> In addition to what Susmit writes below, the aspect that I find a
> trifle odd is that I do not have a request about the line item cost.
> For example, anything that says "I need funds" (which by the way, also
> extends to the $subject, it could perhaps have been a bit more
> explanatory) without a proper plan as to the why-where-when-how_much,
> is a bit off.
>
> As an example of why I generally hesitate to immediately allocate
> funds to an event, do please read up
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-May/msg00141.html
>
> The Monthly (in the initial mail it was Weekly) Newsletter does
> require a bit of coordination with Fedora Marketing as well. Have you
> initiated discussions with them ?
> > The money can not be allocated prior to the activities.
> > Once you have organised something after letting the list know and
> > updating the event page, we can reimburse you.
> >
> > Please update the details of workshops to the fedora event page.
>
> I'd also like to read and learn from you about what you consider your
> success bits in the past months and, what your plans are continuing
> forward with them.
> > There will be no money for distributing DVDs as such as freemedia is a
> > purely voluntary program. if you organise some event, you will be sent
> > DVDs. No issue.
> >
> > For distributing flyers, to whom you are trying to distribute without an
>
> event?
> > But first of all,  please let us know your plan details. If you are
> > planning an event, you are welcome, but you have to update the event
> > page first before any monetary discussion takes place.
>
> ~sankarshan
>
> --
> http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published
> http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science
> http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
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[Pablo Bernabè Barrera]

Hello Zaid, send my greetings to all people on India

2009/6/27 Zaid Chauhan
> Now i want to plan Event for my city, How i will get banners & etc. and
> money for its expenses

I think that can help you contact people from Kerala in the south of your
country that is makind a lof of effort around it
Here is some information
http://swatantryam.blogspot.com/2007/08/story-of-free-software-in-kerala-ind...

Theres an organization.
http://www.space-kerala.org/node/34

One thing that could be useful, and non technical skill, is stay focus on
what u want, resources will go to that place, and if it not, get some
creativity to make it possible.

Lets go on!

Pablo Barrera
Fedora Ambassador Argentina

[sankarshan]

Hi Zaid,

I will be responding to the thread here (the off-list replies we have
had can be read in the context)

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Zaid Chauhan wrote:
> Hello sankarshan,
> I am from Sabarkantha ,
> Where no body knows about open source, very well ,not event Engineering
> students,

I am not surprised. Over the years, it has been an interesting trend
to watch students not take trouble to obtain and cultivate the skills
which would provide them with enough demonstrated experience when they
are looking for jobs.
> Because , all region is using Pirated Xp & other windows version,
>
> First i created local group taking people together who are interested in
> Open Source,
>
> We have first done workshop of introduction about fedora & other Open source
> systems in "Rock-On Concert " of Government Engineering College, Modasa
>
> Where give lecture to the Students and tells them to join this movement of
> Open source but i previously said there is no such Open Source environment ,
> I found very few students,

Would it be possible for you to share notes from this
lecture/presentation ? One of the usual issues I notice is that
talking with students exhorting them to directly participate in FOSS
is counter-productive. Demonstrating that they can do their day-to-day
stuff using FOSS/Fedora instead of proprietary products would make a
difference. For example, showing them how to do their assignments of
Data Structures or, C/C++ on Fedora and so forth.
> You can check website of that party, www.rockon09.co.cc - I am the
> Administrator of that Party

A rock concert is sure an interesting way to spread Fedora.
> Then i started to distributing fedora OS by downloading from Internet, And i
> get good response in it,

How many are using it ? Have they faced any issues ? How are you
responding to any issues/complaints that they have raised ? For
example, NIT-Durgapur / NIT-Agartala have had active mailing lists for
their UserGroups to facilitate end user discussions and foster a sense
of community.
> I talked to my HOD of Computer/IT department and request him to use Fedora
> in Labs of Our Department in Government Engineering College, Modasa,
>
> He agree to use it in one Lab. and i installed the fedora in 42 Computers
> for Students to use it,

Again, how are they using it ?
> After that my exam duration is started so i am inactive for 2 months,

I'd suggest that you take some time out to get to speed. Fedora 11 was
released during this absence and, you should be ready to help handle
requests for installation or, talk about the new features etc.

During the period when you were sponsored into the Ambassador Group,
you should have received Welcome mails, please go through them and if
you have any queries, request that you be assigned a mentor to guide
you as to how best you can put your skills and competencies to use.
> Now i want to do events on city level not only to college level,

I'd suggest "walk and then run". As of now, I haven't seen concrete
results from your time at the college level. Setting up a lab is just
the first step, the subsequent steps to coach a good team of people
who can help you is most required.
> So i need banners,stickers, and other Advertisement products,

I have said this again and, I'd like to re-iterate :

[1] I'd like to see you coordinate with the respective teams to ensure
that the artwork ie. banners, stickers and flyers are consistent with
the Fedora Design Guidelines.

[2] You should be talking with the Marketing team to ensure that the
content on the flyers is relevant and, perhaps figuring if you'd like
to have content in your local language too.
> And it will also cost me for rent of Hall for events, Giving snacks to
> attendees , Electricity, and other Local expenses ,

I'd like to see a plan :

- what are you planning as a run-up to the event
- how much would it cost per line item
- what are your plans
- how will you estimate that your events have been successful
- what do you intend to do as a follow-up to this event
> It's My mistake that i don't give reports of events, Because i thought it is
> local events so not necessary to report or advertise it,
>
> But it's my mistake , so i am sorry,

It would be helpful to have your blog syndicated on Planet Fedora.
> Now i want to plan Event for my city, How i will get banners & etc. and
> money for its expenses

By drawing up a plan. To be very brutal "I want to do an event, I want
money for Banners" does not really provide any pointers as to what
exactly you are planning.
> Fedoras
> Hardworking Ambassador - Zaid Chauhan

I don't think there is a need to provide a qualifier to "Ambassador".
Being an Ambassador means that you are the face of Fedora in your
region. Demonstrating and, living the spirit that keeps the Fedora
community ticking should by default make you a role model for your
peers.

~s

[Zaid Chauhan - Fedora Ambassador]

Hi, sankarshan

Thank you to guide me
By efforts Around 300 to 350 students started to use fedora , they have no
larger problems but some little because open source products like "Office
and etc." are little different then Xp . but they enjoying piracy free
unique Product,

Can we have talk on Phone ,
Because i am new at Fedora and i have not local mentor to guide me,

Every thing is come around how i set up the Event and how to get all
necessary things for it,
Example : I have to create Banners & etc. or it is provided by Fedora ?

Can you mail me some important materials (videos of previous events,
speeches, etc.) so i can get more idea about it

Fedora's
Hardworking Ambassador  - Zaid Chauhan

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM, sankarshan wrote:
> Hi Zaid,
>
> I will be responding to the thread here (the off-list replies we have
> had can be read in the context)
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Zaid Chauhan wrote:
> > Hello sankarshan,
> > I am from Sabarkantha ,
> > Where no body knows about open source, very well ,not event Engineering
> > students,
>
> I am not surprised. Over the years, it has been an interesting trend
> to watch students not take trouble to obtain and cultivate the skills
> which would provide them with enough demonstrated experience when they
> are looking for jobs.
> > Because , all region is using Pirated Xp & other windows version,
> >
> > First i created local group taking people together who are interested in
> > Open Source,
> >
> > We have first done workshop of introduction about fedora & other Open
>
> source
> > systems in "Rock-On Concert " of Government Engineering College, Modasa
> >
> > Where give lecture to the Students and tells them to join this movement
>
> of
> > Open source but i previously said there is no such Open Source
>
> environment ,
> > I found very few students,
>
> Would it be possible for you to share notes from this
> lecture/presentation ? One of the usual issues I notice is that
> talking with students exhorting them to directly participate in FOSS
> is counter-productive. Demonstrating that they can do their day-to-day
> stuff using FOSS/Fedora instead of proprietary products would make a
> difference. For example, showing them how to do their assignments of
> Data Structures or, C/C++ on Fedora and so forth.
> > You can check website of that party, www.rockon09.co.cc - I am the
> > Administrator of that Party
>
> A rock concert is sure an interesting way to spread Fedora.
> > Then i started to distributing fedora OS by downloading from Internet,
>
> And i
> > get good response in it,
>
> How many are using it ? Have they faced any issues ? How are you
> responding to any issues/complaints that they have raised ? For
> example, NIT-Durgapur / NIT-Agartala have had active mailing lists for
> their UserGroups to facilitate end user discussions and foster a sense
> of community.
> > I talked to my HOD of Computer/IT department and request him to use
>
> Fedora
> > in Labs of Our Department in Government Engineering College, Modasa,
> >
> > He agree to use it in one Lab. and i installed the fedora in 42 Computers
> > for Students to use it,
>
> Again, how are they using it ?
> > After that my exam duration is started so i am inactive for 2 months,
>
> I'd suggest that you take some time out to get to speed. Fedora 11 was
> released during this absence and, you should be ready to help handle
> requests for installation or, talk about the new features etc.
>
> During the period when you were sponsored into the Ambassador Group,
> you should have received Welcome mails, please go through them and if
> you have any queries, request that you be assigned a mentor to guide
> you as to how best you can put your skills and competencies to use.
> > Now i want to do events on city level not only to college level,
>
> I'd suggest "walk and then run". As of now, I haven't seen concrete
> results from your time at the college level. Setting up a lab is just
> the first step, the subsequent steps to coach a good team of people
> who can help you is most required.
> > So i need banners,stickers, and other Advertisement products,
>
> I have said this again and, I'd like to re-iterate :
>
> [1] I'd like to see you coordinate with the respective teams to ensure
> that the artwork ie. banners, stickers and flyers are consistent with
> the Fedora Design Guidelines.
>
> [2] You should be talking with the Marketing team to ensure that the
> content on the flyers is relevant and, perhaps figuring if you'd like
> to have content in your local language too.
> > And it will also cost me for rent of Hall for events, Giving snacks to
> > attendees , Electricity, and other Local expenses ,
>
> I'd like to see a plan :
> what are you planning as a run-up to the event
> how much would it cost per line item
> what are your plans
> how will you estimate that your events have been successful
> what do you intend to do as a follow-up to this event
> > It's My mistake that i don't give reports of events, Because i thought it
>
> is
> > local events so not necessary to report or advertise it,
> >
> > But it's my mistake , so i am sorry,
>
> It would be helpful to have your blog syndicated on Planet Fedora.
> > Now i want to plan Event for my city, How i will get banners & etc. and
> > money for its expenses
>
> By drawing up a plan. To be very brutal "I want to do an event, I want
> money for Banners" does not really provide any pointers as to what
> exactly you are planning.
> > Fedoras
> > Hardworking Ambassador - Zaid Chauhan
>
> I don't think there is a need to provide a qualifier to "Ambassador".
> Being an Ambassador means that you are the face of Fedora in your
> region. Demonstrating and, living the spirit that keeps the Fedora
> community ticking should by default make you a role model for your
> peers.
>
> ~s
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[sankarshan]

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Zaid Chauhan - Fedora
Ambassador wrote:
> By efforts Around 300 to 350 students started to use fedora , they have no
> larger problems but some little because open source products like "Office
> and etc." are little different then Xp . but they enjoying piracy free
> unique Product,

Would it be possible for you to tell more about how you continue
interaction with them ? If you use a mailing list, please do pass the
link to the archives off-list if you prefer. Since these are Fedora
users in India, are they on fedora-india mailing list ? What release
of Fedora are they using ? Have many moved to F11 ? Do they have sound
or, graphics card related problems ? Would you like to learn how to
organize a Test Day so as to motivate them to contribute ? How many
use the desktop in their local language ? Have you checked out if
Fedora is available in your local language ? What do they use the
desktop for ? Are there any packages/software they wish to have but is
currently not in the distribution ?
> Can we have talk on Phone ,
> Because i am new at Fedora and i have not local mentor to guide me,

The mentors for India are Kushal (kushal at fedoraproject dot org),
Rahul (sundaram at fedoraproject dot org) and Susmit (susmit at
fedoraproject dot org), please take time to get in touch with at least
one of them (I know you have written to Rahul about the event) so as
to ensure that they can help you.
> Every thing is come around how i set up the Event and how to get all
> necessary things for it,
> Example : I have to create Banners & etc. or it is provided by Fedora ?

And, I repeat, I'd like to see a plan. For example, what content would
you like to put on the banner ? Have you discussed that with the
Marketing folks ? What should be the content of the flyer ? What is
the cost per unit of it if you produce it locally, how many would you
like to produce ?

The above are questions I have been putting forward for a while,
please take time to come up with a proper event plan, including
whether you'd like to coordinate with other Ambassadors/Contributors
(from India) who can be present at the event and, help you make a
point.
> Can you mail me some important materials (videos of previous events,
> speeches, etc.) so i can get more idea about it

I guess this is the moment when we take a step back and exhort you to
communicate with a mentor. The Fedora Planet and, this mailing list
have had a number of such mails and, a mentor should be able to lead
you through this.
> Fedora's
> Hardworking Ambassador  - Zaid Chauhan

I would recommended that you drop the "Hardworking" part please. It
might seem to be funny but it is not. We have a large base of
Ambassadors and, all of them work hard, the qualifier is somewhat
redundant.

[Pablo Bernabè Barrera]

Hi

I would recommended that you drop the "Hardworking" part please. It
> might seem to be funny but it is not. We have a large base of
> Ambassadors and, all of them work hard, the qualifier is somewhat
> redundant.

A pervasive problem, permanent, when someone ask for help to community,
marking correction, giver orders
and critize signs, but i didnt found in your message something like "how we
can help you out"...

..or something like "good work" how can we contribute", no, just "orders"
and mailing lists, and other things....

I think that "hardworker" is not a bad sign. If he considers hard worker,
its nice...

Anyway dont worry ive contacted that boy to RMS and Free Software Foundation
India, for sure this people will help them
more than our help....asking him "sign slongan removals"....

[sankarshan]

2009/6/29 Pablo Bernabè Barrera :
> > I would recommended that you drop the "Hardworking" part please. It
> > might seem to be funny but it is not. We have a large base of
> > Ambassadors and, all of them work hard, the qualifier is somewhat
> > redundant.
>
> A pervasive problem, permanent, when someone ask for help to community,
> marking correction, giver orders
> and critize signs, but i didnt found in your message something like "how we
> can help you out"...

Umm... to ask that one has to know what work is going on isn't it ? :)
I would request that you read through the responses (from me) in this
thread. There are plenty of leading queries which would help Zaid form
a response.
> ..or something like "good work" how can we contribute", no, just "orders"
> and mailing lists, and other things....

Yes. If you do read up how we work with the Ambassadors out of India,
we generally ask that they subscribe to the fedora-india list. It
helps to foster a group that shares knowledge. As regards "good work",
you seem to have missed the response from Susmit. We get to know of
work done when the Ambassador talks about them. By Zaid's own
admission, he has been busy in other things for the past 2 months.
Since we released a new distribution with spanking new features and,
enormous media coverage, it would be imperative for him to come up to
speed.

For example, as an audience in Zaid's presentation (which has been
requested to be shared), would you prefer to have crisp responses and
an overall awareness of the project or, would you prefer otherwise ?
To all extents and purposes, Ambassadors define the perception of
Fedora in the minds of the users, potential users, contributors and,
potential contributors. If we, as a group, do not strive for
excellence, we fail not only ourselves but the Fedora Project.
> I think that "hardworker" is not a bad sign. If he considers hard worker,
> its nice...

Absolutely, but like all badges, it need not be flaunted. We live in
deeds, not words.
> Anyway dont worry ive contacted that boy to RMS and Free Software Foundation
> India, for sure this people will help them
> more than our help....asking him "sign slongan removals"....

I appreciate that. There are multiple FSF groups in India, which one
did you point him to by the way ? :)

[Pablo Bernabè Barrera]

Hi
> Anyway dont worry ive contacted that boy to RMS and Free Software
> Foundation
> > India, for sure this people will help them
> > more than our help....asking him "sign slongan removals"....
>
> I appreciate that. There are multiple FSF groups in India, which one
> did you point him to by the way ? :)

I go to the head directly to RMS and Juan Carlos Gentile, that has a lot of
experience to help people that need assistance.
Now, its up to them of course.

Namaste