Re: fedoraLife Concept (condensed version) online now

[Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB)]

Good point rafael, I think we can start asking people who uses PCs not for
living what they think its usefull to a OS and start compiling a database
with this information :) who's with me ? :D

2008/6/13 rafael liu <rafaelliu(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  tFrom what I get Markus is suggesting a "bundled" Fedora
> which would have
>  all common and cool apps, so users don't have to search/install them.
>
>  I think a much reasonable approach would be to give users profiles, but
>  much more focused than the package selector we have upon installation. I see
>  this idea in Ubuntu with its flavors (Studio, Home Server, etc) and Debian
>  with that primitive selector (Server, Notebook, etc).
>
>  There could be profiles such as Media Workstation, Developer Workstation,
>  Server, Home User, etc. Those would just select appropriate packages in the
>  already existent package selector in Anaconda.
>
>  2008/6/13 Lucas Saboya <lucas(a)cefetce.br&gt;:
>
> > ok, so lets go modelling the stuff?
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt;
> > wrote:
> >
> >>  Lucas Saboya wrote:
> >>
> >>>    Actually, the Fedora Unity project releases a DVD and CD set of
> >>>    EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE in Fedora in one set of install media. They
> >>>    call it the "Everything Spin." The problem with this is... it is
> 4
> >>>    DVDs or 23 CDs.
> >>>
> >>> Ok, but dont you thing that 4 DVDs ou 23 CDs its a little HUGE amount of
> >>> data, that sometimes wont be NEVER used by a normal user, that only wants to
> >>> edit his/her videos or engage into a meeting ?
> >>>
> >>
> >> That is the superset of *all* our packages. With the same tools used to
> >> produce it, anyone can create his own subset ("spin") with whatever he
> think
> >> is useful.
> >> If he manage to prove the spin is useful for a large category of users,
> >> then it can be hosted on Fedora infrastructure (torrent). It is is even more
> >> useful than that, then it may get even hosted on the mirrors.
> >> The trick is to produce a spin which is useful.
> >>
> >>     So is the point to make a more usable version of Fedora? Or is the
> >>>    point to ship everything in the initial install?
> >>>    What is the goal you are looking to achieve? It seems really unclear
> >>>    to me.
> >>>
> >>> The point is tho make a usable version of fedora, shipping not
> >>> everything but just the things we KNOW that will help the common users that
> >>> uses a PC just to do a PART of their work not US who can easily compile our
> >>> own version of fedora and put everything we want on it. is that so hard to
> >>> do, thing like common users ?:)
> >>>
> >>
> >> It is hard because there are a lot of definition of what "common
> users"
> >> need. For example, it can be argued that common users do not need
> >> video/audio editors (see the "fedoraLife" subject of this thread) and
> that
> >> such applications are needed by a niche ("creative").
> >>
> >>     Ready to roll up your sleeves?
> >>>
> >>>  Thats what I'm doing right now :)
> >>>
> >>>    So when are you going to show us some code?
> >>>
> >>> let's go codding, so ! But remember that this is not the fedora
> >>> developer list, its the MARKETING one :)
> >>> this means, the codding doesn't happen here, the idea of the email is to
> >>> compile a concept of the programas we can put with fedora to make a clean
> >>> and functional instalation.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The first step is to produce something like this:
> >>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/Pa...
> >>
> >> And then, turn the list in a kickstart file. After that, producing the
> >> spin is only a matter of clicks.
> >>
> >>
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