first i want to point out that i value the work that FAmSCo is doing and
if emails sound like criticism it is not meant to discourage anyone! It
is just how i see it ;)
On 02.01.2013 18:32, Christoph Wickert wrote:
The problem with the FAmSCo reports was that cost is too much time
produce them. We didn't discontinue them because we don't think they
were not important any longer, but simply because it was too much work,
especially when they were done monthly.
agreed - having quarterly or reports every 6 month to monitor progress
may be a good signal to the Contributors (not our own Ambassadors but
the other groups) to show them the value of the group and that we create
benefit for the project -
If there is a way to produce
them easily and it this process is documented, we could think about
bringing them back.
Even if we don't, we should have an annual report.
yep i was referring to yearly reports in the blog-post - please note
that we not only reported numbers but also future goals and achievements -
You say you don't see our community develop. I don't think
this is true,
i did not wrote that - please do not twist my points.
I just wrote that i think we are not good in learning from past mistakes
Then there is another important number: Money. You are pointing out
in the 7 of 2011, community credit card have spend more money for than
in the complete fiscal year 2012. This is basically the aftermath of Max
leaving which caused a lot of trouble.
you may right if you refer to the whole budget situation - does not
apply for the commcards
This turned out to not me true. In fact we had a lot of money left
exactly the money was there and it was waiting to be spend - which did
What do we learn from this?
* The community needs more power. Having too much power in the
hands of a single person can become a problem when this person
disappears. We should distribute power and workload on more
yes and no - maybe to complex to explain it here - yes backups are
valuable, but too many cooks spoil the broth
* We need better controlling. We need to track our expenses.
Ideally, FAmSCo should be in the position to figure out how
much was spent without having to ask somebody.
nobody keeps FAmSCo from tracking it´s FAmSCo´s/Ambassadors expenses?
I always believed that FAmSCo is capable of managing a global budget for
Fedora - but this never was achieved for know reasons
Jörg, your statics are a good start and will help us a lot to
this. Thanks a lot for your work!
One very minor point though: I think the cost distribution is a little
too detailed. E.g. "Parking/Tolls" and "Fuel" can easily be
under the big "Transportation" portion.
took it from my cost-center reports - so i have to do it this way, anyway
have fun Joerg
Joerg (kital) Simon
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