xfce July 2019

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Removal of Python 2 from the Xfce spin
by Miro Hrončok 11 Aug '19

11 Aug '19

Hi, we've successfully removed Python 2 from default Workstation installation years ago, today I'd like to see if we could do it in Xfce Spin as well. For those not in the picture: Python 2 ill EOL in 11 months, 22 days [0]. We are trying to get rid of it as much as possible in Fedora [1][2]. Eliminating Python 2 from our defualt installations is an important step here. Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide), this is what gets removed as dependent: NetworkManager-openconnect-gnome blueberry gnumeric python2-catfish system-config-keyboard system-config-users Several others go as no longer needed, mostly python2 libs, but also: NetworkManager-openconnect bluez-obex bluez-tools openconnect wmctrl While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric, what bothers me is: 1. It seems that the Bluetooth stack is entirely gone. Do we have an viable alternative? 2. If openconnect is not needed on Workstation, why is it needed in Xfce? 3. Can we set keyboards/users with some alternatives? system-config-* still link to fedorahosted as upstream and haven't received an update in years. They seem pretty upstream dead to me. 4. Catfish is Python 3 compatible, but the Fedora maintainer is not [4]. Thanks for tips. [0] https://pythonclock.org/ [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FinalizingFedoraSwitchtoPython3 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Mass_Python_2_Package_Removal [3] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/catfish/pull-request/1# -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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Fwd: ANNOUNCE: Xfce 4.14pre3 released
by Mukundan Ragavan 31 Jul '19

31 Jul '19

FYI - I will be building this shortly for Fedora 31 and 30. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ANNOUNCE: Xfce 4.14pre3 released Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 21:43:47 +0200 From: Simon Steinbeiss <simon(a)xfce.org> Reply-To: xfce(a)xfce.org To: xfce-announce(a)xfce.org Xfce 4.14pre3 is now available for download. It includes the following releases of Xfce core components: exo 0.12.7 garcon 0.6.4 libxfce4ui 4.13.7 libxfce4util 4.13.5 thunar 1.8.8 thunar-volman 0.9.4 tumbler 0.2.6 xfce4-appfinder 4.13.5 xfce4-dev-tools 4.13.0 xfce4-panel 4.13.7 xfce4-power-manager 1.6.4 xfce4-session 4.13.4 xfce4-settings 4.13.8 xfconf 4.13.8 xfdesktop 4.13.6 xfwm4 4.13.4 Individual tarballs are available for download now: https://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.14pre3/src A tarball including all individual releases can be downloaded here: https://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.14pre3/fat_tarballs Release notes for 4.14pre3 ========================== _______________________________________________ Xfce-announce mailing list Xfce-announce(a)xfce.org https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce-announce

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Fwd: ANNOUNCE: Xfce 4.14pre2 released
by Mukundan Ragavan 24 Jul '19

24 Jul '19

I have started building these packages. I will submit an update for Fedora 30 in the next day or two. Mukundan. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ANNOUNCE: Xfce 4.14pre2 released Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 00:55:56 +0200 From: Simon Steinbeiss <simon(a)xfce.org> Reply-To: xfce(a)xfce.org To: xfce-announce(a)xfce.org Xfce 4.14pre2 is now available for download. It includes the following releases of Xfce core components: exo 0.12.6 garcon 0.6.3 libxfce4ui 4.13.6 libxfce4util 4.13.4 thunar 1.8.7 thunar-volman 0.9.3 tumbler 0.2.5 xfce4-appfinder 4.13.4 xfce4-dev-tools 4.13.0 xfce4-panel 4.13.6 xfce4-power-manager 1.6.3 xfce4-session 4.13.3 xfce4-settings 4.13.7 xfconf 4.13.8 xfdesktop 4.13.5 xfwm4 4.13.3 Individual tarballs are available for download now: https://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.14pre2/src A tarball including all individual releases can be downloaded here: https://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.14pre2/fat_tarballs Release notes for 4.14pre2 ========================== This is a platform release. For a detailed list of changes please refer to the release notes of the individual components. _______________________________________________ Xfce-announce mailing list Xfce-announce(a)xfce.org https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce-announce

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Fwd: Xfce 4.14 pre3 scheduled for 28th of July
by Mukundan Ragavan 16 Jul '19

16 Jul '19

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Xfce 4.14 pre3 scheduled for 28th of July Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 01:17:56 +0200 From: Simon Steinbeiss <simon(a)xfce.org> Reply-To: Xfce development list <xfce4-dev(a)xfce.org> To: Xfce development list <xfce4-dev(a)xfce.org> Hi everyone, I briefly wanted to inform you that the release team has decided to move forward with the Xfce 4.14 pre3 release (https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/xfce_4.14pre3) which is scheduled in a little less than two weeks from now. While pre3 was optional, we had already seen several core component maintainers opt-in for another pre-release, making our decision an easy one. Furthermore a little additional time to compile release notes and screenshots for the tour cannot hurt. We're still aiming for the Xfce 4.14 final release to take place in the first half of August, so nothing has changed with respect to our release roadmap (https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap) If anyone from the community wants to support the final release by editing release notes, compiling screenshots etc please get in touch! Most of the people doing these things are also busy fixing bugs and releasing components, so helping hands are more than welcome. Cheers Simon

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trace symbols ???
by ToddAndMargo 07 Jul '19

07 Jul '19

Dear Fedora Xfce, How do I do this is Fedora 30 and Xfce 4.13? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#What_are_debugging_symbols.2C_an… What are debugging symbols, and why are they important? When a program is compiled with special switches to generate debugging symbols (the -g compiler switch) extra information is stored in the program file. This information can be used to generate a stack trace that contains much more information, such as the exact line number of the source file where things went wrong. Without this information it is very hard to figure out what went wrong by looking at the stack trace. I have been asked to do this by https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15172#c2 Many thanks, -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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