Removal of Python 2 from the Xfce spin: gnumeric

[Bruce Hohl]

>  Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide), this
> is 
what
>  gets removed as dependent: ... gnumeric ...
>  While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric ... 
Two comments:
(1) python should not be (is not) a dependency for gnumeric per the
following:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnumeric
http://gnome-apps.13852.n7.nabble.com/gnumeric-amp-python2-td71380.html
Maybe the Fedora gnumeric package can be edited.

(2) Over an accounting career I've used Lotus, Excel, Gnumeric,
LibreOffice, and Google Sheets.  Here is my quick judgement:  Lotus is
gone, Excel & Libre are slow loading and basically always have some
annoying but not show stopping bugs, gSheets requires the internet and
doesn't natively provide portable docs.  gnumeric is stable, fast loading,
has no observed bugs for basic use, provides portable docs, and includes
all core spreadsheet functionality.  It makes sense as a component of the
lighter weight xfce spin.

[Miro Hrončok]

On 10. 01. 19 15:43, Bruce Hohl wrote:
>   > Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide),
> this is what
>   > gets removed as dependent: ... gnumeric ...
>   > While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric ...
>  
>  Two comments:
>  (1) python should not be (is not) a dependency for gnumeric per the following:
>  https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnumeric
>  http://gnome-apps.13852.n7.nabble.com/gnumeric-amp-python2-td71380.html
>  Maybe the Fedora gnumeric package can be edited. 
gnumeric requires libpython2.7.so.1.0()(64bit).

That doesn't sound like accident.

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[Dan Horák]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:10:30 +0100
Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 10. 01. 19 15:43, Bruce Hohl wrote:
>  >  > Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide),
>  >  > this is what gets removed as dependent: ... gnumeric ...
>  >  > While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric ...
>  > 
>  > Two comments:
>  > (1) python should not be (is not) a dependency for gnumeric per the
>  > following: https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnumeric
>  > http://gnome-apps.13852.n7.nabble.com/gnumeric-amp-python2-td71380.html
>  > Maybe the Fedora gnumeric package can be edited.
>  
>  gnumeric requires libpython2.7.so.1.0()(64bit). 
it's from supporting python plugins, I suppose. It can be disabled by
--without-python during build.


		Dan

[Miro Hrončok]

On 10. 01. 19 18:28, Dan Horák wrote:
>  On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:10:30 +0100
>  Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  
> > On 10. 01. 19 15:43, Bruce Hohl wrote:
> >>   > Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide),
> >>   > this is what gets removed as dependent: ... gnumeric ...
> >>   > While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric ...
> >>
> >> Two comments:
> >> (1) python should not be (is not) a dependency for gnumeric per the
> >> following: https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnumeric
> >> http://gnome-apps.13852.n7.nabble.com/gnumeric-amp-python2-td71380.html
> >> Maybe the Fedora gnumeric package can be edited.
> >
> > gnumeric requires libpython2.7.so.1.0()(64bit).
>  
>  it's from supporting python plugins, I suppose. It can be disabled by
>  --without-python during build. 
It also seems those plugins and Python plugins support can be moved to the 
plugins-extra subpackage, working on it.

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[Miro Hrončok]

On 11. 01. 19 10:06, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>  On 10. 01. 19 18:28, Dan Horák wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:10:30 +0100
> > Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> >> On 10. 01. 19 15:43, Bruce Hohl wrote:
> >>>   > Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide),
> >>>   > this is what gets removed as dependent: ... gnumeric ...
> >>>   > While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric ...
> >>>
> >>> Two comments:
> >>> (1) python should not be (is not) a dependency for gnumeric per the
> >>> following: https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnumeric
> >>> http://gnome-apps.13852.n7.nabble.com/gnumeric-amp-python2-td71380.html
> >>> Maybe the Fedora gnumeric package can be edited.
> >>
> >> gnumeric requires libpython2.7.so.1.0()(64bit).
> >
> > it's from supporting python plugins, I suppose. It can be disabled by
> > --without-python during build.
>  
>  It also seems those plugins and Python plugins support can be moved to the 
>  plugins-extra subpackage, working on it. 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnumeric/pull-request/1

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[Miro Hrončok]

On 11. 01. 19 10:13, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>  On 11. 01. 19 10:06, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 10. 01. 19 18:28, Dan Horák wrote:
> >> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:10:30 +0100
> >> Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10. 01. 19 15:43, Bruce Hohl wrote:
> >>>>   > Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide),
> >>>>   > this is what gets removed as dependent: ... gnumeric ...
> >>>>   > While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric ...
> >>>>
> >>>> Two comments:
> >>>> (1) python should not be (is not) a dependency for gnumeric per the
> >>>> following: https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnumeric
> >>>> http://gnome-apps.13852.n7.nabble.com/gnumeric-amp-python2-td71380.html
> >>>> Maybe the Fedora gnumeric package can be edited.
> >>>
> >>> gnumeric requires libpython2.7.so.1.0()(64bit).
> >>
> >> it's from supporting python plugins, I suppose. It can be disabled by
> >> --without-python during build.
> >
> > It also seems those plugins and Python plugins support can be moved to the 
> > plugins-extra subpackage, working on it.
>  
>  https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnumeric/pull-request/1 

Built.

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[Bruce Hohl]

Outstanding, thank you.

On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 8:21 AM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 11. 01. 19 10:13, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>  > On 11. 01. 19 10:06, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>  >> On 10. 01. 19 18:28, Dan Horák wrote:
>  >>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:10:30 +0100
>  >>> Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>> On 10. 01. 19 15:43, Bruce Hohl wrote:
>  >>>>>   > Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin
> (rawhide),
>  >>>>>   > this is what gets removed as dependent: ... gnumeric ...
>  >>>>>   > While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric ...
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Two comments:
>  >>>>> (1) python should not be (is not) a dependency for gnumeric per the
>  >>>>> following: https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnumeric
>  >>>>>
>  http://gnome-apps.13852.n7.nabble.com/gnumeric-amp-python2-td71380.html
>  >>>>> Maybe the Fedora gnumeric package can be edited.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> gnumeric requires libpython2.7.so.1.0()(64bit).
>  >>>
>  >>> it's from supporting python plugins, I suppose. It can be disabled by
>  >>> --without-python during build.
>  >>
>  >> It also seems those plugins and Python plugins support can be moved to
>  the
>  >> plugins-extra subpackage, working on it.
>  >
>  > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnumeric/pull-request/1
>
>
>  Built.
>
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