Re: XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Steve Dodier-Lazaro]

Hi Fedora devs,

By all means if you think there is a problem in our dependencies for Parole
please let us know on the Xfce dev ML. It might be that an older version of
Parole can be used for epel7.

Also note neither Parole or Pragha are core Xfce packages so even if
they're too recent for one of your target systems, you can still ship the
rest of Xfce :-)

Cheers,

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 02:08 ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 03/04/2015 05:43 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>  > On 03/04/2015 05:31 PM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote:
>  >> I will try to complete Xfce 4.10 also ...(try is the important word
>  >> here :))
>  >
>  > Any change of a port to el6?
>  >
>  "chance" not "change"
>
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XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 5 March 2015 at 02:38, Steve Dodier-Lazaro <sidi(a)xfce.org&gt; wrote:

>  Hi Fedora devs,
>
>  By all means if you think there is a problem in our dependencies for
>  Parole please let us know on the Xfce dev ML. It might be that an older
>  version of Parole can be used for epel7.
>
>  
I am going to be looking at older versions for the time being and then look
at what could be done about newer versions. I hadn't really thought of it
as a XFCE mailing list thing as well we ship old stuff, you write new
stuff.. why is it your problem :). But if you are willing to look at it..


>  Also note neither Parole or Pragha are core Xfce packages so even if
>  they're too recent for one of your target systems, you can still ship the
>  rest of Xfce :-)
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  


>  On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 02:08 ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com&gt;
> wrote:
>
> > On 03/04/2015 05:43 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> > > On 03/04/2015 05:31 PM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote:
> > >> I will try to complete Xfce 4.10 also ...(try is the important word
> > >> here :))
> > >
> > > Any change of a port to el6?
> > >
> > "chance" not "change"
> >
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> > They malfunction when you open windows
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XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Steve Dodier-Lazaro]

Hi Stephen,


>  I am going to be looking at older versions for the time being and
> then
>  look at what could be done about newer versions. I hadn't really thought of
>  it as a XFCE mailing list thing as well we ship old stuff, you write new
>  stuff.. why is it your problem :). But if you are willing to look at it..
>
>  
Parole was ported to GTK+3 a while ago. We're currently porting the rest,
and clearly people will have to choose *one* core Xfce (either 4.12/gtk2 or
4.14/gtk3). However as far as non-core apps like Parole go, you should in
theory be able to use another version.

If for a reason you can't ship the GTK+3 version now, but are happy to use
a GTK+2 version, this is fine for us. There might be a reason why it
doesn't compile anymore, e.g. some change we made in libxfce4ui/util
(though I think it should work just fine). In that case, we might be able
to help you write a distro-patch that makes it build for this specific
architecture and distro. I don't think we want any more gtk2/gtk3 ifdefs in
the code base (I'm specially stressing this out as I'm speaking about code
that *other people* are maintaining, not me! :-) ) but our goal is to help
everyone run our apps, so if you're getting stuck somewhere, do chat with
us.

Cheers,
-- 
Steve Dodier-Lazaro
Xfce Design SIG / Security SIG
Free Software Developer
OpenPGP : 1B6B1670

XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Martin Sourada]

Hi,

I think you're jumping the gun prematurely. Parole built fine (0.8.0),
out of the non core apps I tried only pragha and ristretto failed due
to missing deps.

Martin

V Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:24:56 +0000
Steve Dodier-Lazaro <sidi(a)xfce.org&gt; napsáno:

>  Hi Stephen,
>  
>  
>  > I am going to be looking at older versions for the time being and
>  > then look at what could be done about newer versions. I hadn't
>  > really thought of it as a XFCE mailing list thing as well we ship
>  > old stuff, you write new stuff.. why is it your problem :). But if
>  > you are willing to look at it..
>  >
>  >
>  
>  Parole was ported to GTK+3 a while ago. We're currently porting the
>  rest, and clearly people will have to choose *one* core Xfce (either
>  4.12/gtk2 or 4.14/gtk3). However as far as non-core apps like Parole
>  go, you should in theory be able to use another version.
>  
>  If for a reason you can't ship the GTK+3 version now, but are happy
>  to use a GTK+2 version, this is fine for us. There might be a reason
>  why it doesn't compile anymore, e.g. some change we made in
>  libxfce4ui/util (though I think it should work just fine). In that
>  case, we might be able to help you write a distro-patch that makes it
>  build for this specific architecture and distro. I don't think we
>  want any more gtk2/gtk3 ifdefs in the code base (I'm specially
>  stressing this out as I'm speaking about code that *other people* are
>  maintaining, not me! :-) ) but our goal is to help everyone run our
>  apps, so if you're getting stuck somewhere, do chat with us.
>  
>  Cheers,

XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 21:04:18 +0100
Martin Sourada <martin.sourada(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi,
>  
>  I think you're jumping the gun prematurely. Parole built fine (0.8.0),
>  out of the non core apps I tried only pragha and ristretto failed due
>  to missing deps. 
If the failure is due to the appstream data check we can (and probibly
should) not ship appstream data for epel7 versions. There's nothing
using it in rhel7 that I know of anyhow. 

kevin

XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Martin Sourada]

Hi,

V Thu, 5 Mar 2015 22:24:55 -0300
Matias De lellis <mati86dl(a)gmail.com&gt; napsáno:

>  Hi Martin,
>  
>  > pragha and ristretto failed due to missing deps.
>  
>  I have little free time, but please you can share me the log of the
>  failed compilation of pragha?.
>  
>  Thanks,
>  Regards. 
Matias, 

the build is failing in the early stage, the deps aren't
satisfied (keybinder, libclastfm), so the actual build does not even
happen, it's a problem on our end, not yours most likely.

V Thu, 5 Mar 2015 14:07:11 -0700
Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt; napsáno:

>  On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 21:04:18 +0100
>  Martin Sourada <martin.sourada(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > Hi,
>  > 
>  > I think you're jumping the gun prematurely. Parole built fine
>  > (0.8.0), out of the non core apps I tried only pragha and ristretto
>  > failed due to missing deps.
>  
>  If the failure is due to the appstream data check we can (and probibly
>  should) not ship appstream data for epel7 versions. There's nothing
>  using it in rhel7 that I know of anyhow. 
>  
>  kevin 
Kevin, 

as per root.log ristretto is failing on missing deps:
Error: No Package found for libappstream-glib

pragha is a little bit heavier on the deps, but probably no
show-stopper either:
Error: No Package found for pkgconfig(keybinder) >= 0.2.0
Error: No Package found for pkgconfig(libclastfm) >= 0.5

Regards,
Martin

XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Matias De lellis]

Ohhh.. Ok..
Both keybinder as libclastfm are optional. Momentarily just can
comment these dependencies in the SPEC and compile properly.. =)


2015-03-06 5:34 GMT-03:00 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  Hi,
>
>  V Thu, 5 Mar 2015 22:24:55 -0300
>  Matias De lellis <mati86dl(a)gmail.com&gt; napsáno:
>
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > > pragha and ristretto failed due to missing deps.
> >
> > I have little free time, but please you can share me the log of the
> > failed compilation of pragha?.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards.
>
>  Matias,
>
>  the build is failing in the early stage, the deps aren't
>  satisfied (keybinder, libclastfm), so the actual build does not even
>  happen, it's a problem on our end, not yours most likely.
>
>  V Thu, 5 Mar 2015 14:07:11 -0700
>  Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt; napsáno:
>
> > On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 21:04:18 +0100
> > Martin Sourada <martin.sourada(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think you're jumping the gun prematurely. Parole built fine
> > > (0.8.0), out of the non core apps I tried only pragha and ristretto
> > > failed due to missing deps.
> >
> > If the failure is due to the appstream data check we can (and probibly
> > should) not ship appstream data for epel7 versions. There's nothing
> > using it in rhel7 that I know of anyhow.
> >
> > kevin
>
>  Kevin,
>
>  as per root.log ristretto is failing on missing deps:
>  Error: No Package found for libappstream-glib
>
>  pragha is a little bit heavier on the deps, but probably no
>  show-stopper either:
>  Error: No Package found for pkgconfig(keybinder) >= 0.2.0
>  Error: No Package found for pkgconfig(libclastfm) >= 0.5
>
>  Regards,
>  Martin
>
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XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Martin Sourada]

OK, removing the build deps seems work. I've been able to build
(mockchain -r epel-7-x86_64) and use (I'm using it about a week already
and no issues noticed so far, but I don't use whisermenu nor
xfdashboard) the following on EPEL7 (first couple of packages up to
xfce4-panel sans the gtk engine need to be more or less in this order;
the spec updates would be fewer had I used the updated packages from
f22 instead of f20+copr...):

libxfce4util-4.12.1-1.fc20
gtk-xfce-engine-3.2.0-1.fc20
xfce4-dev-tools-4.12.0-0.1.el7.centos
xfconf-4.12.0-1.fc20
libxfce4ui-4.12.0-1.fc20
exo-0.10.3-1.fc20
garcon-0.4.0-2.fc20
xfce4-panel-4.12.0-2.fc20
tumbler-0.1.31-1.fc20
im-chooser-1.6.4-6.fc20
orage-4.10.0-5.fc20
parole-0.8.0-1.fc23
pragha-1.2.2-5.1.el7.centos
ristretto-0.8.0-1.1.el7.centos
thunar-volman-0.8.1-0.1.el7.centos
Thunar-1.6.6-1.fc20
xfce4-appfinder-4.12.0-1.fc20
xfce4-battery-plugin-1.0.5-8.1.el7.centos
xfce4-cpugraph-plugin-1.0.5-7.1.el7.centos
xfce4-datetime-plugin-0.6.2-5.1.el7.centos
xfce4-genmon-plugin-3.4.0-7.1.el7.centos
xfce4-mixer-4.10.0-6.el7
xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.7-4.1.el7.centos
xfce4-notifyd-0.2.4-7.fc20
xfce4-places-plugin-1.6.0-4.1.el7.centos
xfce4-power-manager-1.4.3-1.fc20
xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin-0.2.0-0.1.el7.centos
xfce4-screenshooter-1.8.1-5.el7
xfce4-session-4.12.0-1.fc20
xfce4-settings-4.12.0-1.fc20
xfce4-systemload-plugin-1.1.2-1.el7
xfce4-terminal-0.6.3-7.fc23
xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.5-2.fc23
xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin-1.5.0-2.fc23
xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.6-5.1.el7.centos
xfdashboard-0.3.9-3.fc23
xfdesktop-4.12.0-1.fc20
xfwm4-4.12.0-1.fc20

Martin

XFCE 4.12 on EPEL7

[Matias De lellis]

Hi Martin,

>  pragha and ristretto failed due to missing deps. 
I have little free time, but please you can share me the log of the
failed compilation of pragha?.

Thanks,
Regards.

2015-03-05 17:04 GMT-03:00 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  Hi,
>
>  I think you're jumping the gun prematurely. Parole built fine (0.8.0),
>  out of the non core apps I tried only pragha and ristretto failed due
>  to missing deps.
>
>  Martin
>
>  V Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:24:56 +0000
>  Steve Dodier-Lazaro <sidi(a)xfce.org&gt; napsáno:
>
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> >
> > > I am going to be looking at older versions for the time being and
> > > then look at what could be done about newer versions. I hadn't
> > > really thought of it as a XFCE mailing list thing as well we ship
> > > old stuff, you write new stuff.. why is it your problem :). But if
> > > you are willing to look at it..
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Parole was ported to GTK+3 a while ago. We're currently porting the
> > rest, and clearly people will have to choose *one* core Xfce (either
> > 4.12/gtk2 or 4.14/gtk3). However as far as non-core apps like Parole
> > go, you should in theory be able to use another version.
> >
> > If for a reason you can't ship the GTK+3 version now, but are happy
> > to use a GTK+2 version, this is fine for us. There might be a reason
> > why it doesn't compile anymore, e.g. some change we made in
> > libxfce4ui/util (though I think it should work just fine). In that
> > case, we might be able to help you write a distro-patch that makes it
> > build for this specific architecture and distro. I don't think we
> > want any more gtk2/gtk3 ifdefs in the code base (I'm specially
> > stressing this out as I'm speaking about code that *other people* are
> > maintaining, not me! :-) ) but our goal is to help everyone run our
> > apps, so if you're getting stuck somewhere, do chat with us.
> >
> > Cheers,
>
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